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Team: 2024-25 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: May 6, 2024
Published: May 6, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$950,000
3$940,000
3$940,000
3$940,000
3$940,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,750,000
2$1,500,000
3$2,250,000
5$2,750,550
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Celebrini, Macklin
3$955,000
Buium or Parekh, Zeev or Zayne
3$955,000
Trades
1.
SJS
    The question is, does Toronto?
    TOR
      Acquire Tavares
      2.
      SJS
        Tavares costs an AAV of 11 and would be a major relief for Toronto. Fans and media want the team to move on from loyalty and become a winner.

        I’ve heard the term a ruthless winner like Vegas. Winning at all costs and moving Tavares is more ideal then trading Marner for now for the Leafs.
        TOR
        3.
        SJS
        TOR
          What does this cost?

          Marleau cost a 1st and his AAV was 6m.
          Tavares at 11 should equal the same.

          San Jose also wants to have more veterans help mentor their youth. This could be a beneficial relationship for both Toronto and San Jose
          4.
          SJS
            However Toronto is not going to pay a first for another dump.

            Here’s what I propose.
            TOR
              San Jose, I expect wants to trade up using their Pens pick.

              So collecting a prospect and 2nd will satisfy Griers needs.
              5.
              SJS
                “Yap yap yap NMC”
                I believe with Tavares previous bid with San Jose, and some throughout conversations with Tavares, he could waive.
                The Leafs will be “politely demanding” the waive.
                I don’t see the odds of him waiving lower than like 35%.
                TOR
                  Now Toronto does not have a 2nd. So how does this work?
                  6.
                  SJS
                  1. Niemelä, Topi
                  2. Tavares, John
                  3. 2026 3rd round pick (TOR)
                  Additional Details:
                  Topi is a 3rd round pick whose raised his stock to easily near/ at a seconds value..

                  Does Grier take this? Does Toronto offer this?
                  TOR
                  1. Benning, Matthew
                  Additional Details:
                  Depth D contract
                  7.
                  SJS
                  1. 2024 1st round pick (OTT)
                  Additional Details:
                  Sens Trade down to strengthen their pool as it is QUITE BARREN right now.
                  OTT
                  1. Coe, Brandon [RFA Rights]
                  2. 2024 1st round pick (PIT)
                  3. 2024 2nd round pick (NJD)
                  4. 2024 3rd round pick (TBL)
                  5. 2026 3rd round pick (TOR)
                  Buyouts
                  Retained Salary Transactions
                  Buried
                  DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
                  2024
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                  Logo of the VGK
                  Logo of the CHI
                  Logo of the PIT
                  Logo of the SJS
                  2025
                  Logo of the SJS
                  Logo of the VGK
                  Logo of the SJS
                  Logo of the SJS
                  Logo of the WPG
                  Logo of the SJS
                  Logo of the NJD
                  2026
                  Logo of the SJS
                  Logo of the SJS
                  Logo of the SJS
                  Logo of the SJS
                  Logo of the SJS
                  ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
                  23$87,500,000$72,213,884$0$1,807,500$15,286,116
                  Left WingCentreRight Wing
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
                  LW
                  RFA - 2
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $5,000,000$5,000,000
                  C, RW
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $1,450,000$1,450,000
                  RW
                  RFA - 1
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $1,750,000$1,750,000
                  C, LW
                  RFA
                  Celebrini, Macklin
                  $955,000$955,000
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $950,000$950,000
                  C
                  RFA - 3
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $828,333$828,333 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
                  LW
                  RFA - 1
                  Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
                  $11,000,000$11,000,000
                  C, LW
                  NMC
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $2,250,000$2,250,000
                  RW, C
                  RFA
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $2,000,000$2,000,000
                  LW, RW
                  RFA - 1
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $2,000,000$2,000,000
                  C
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $941,667$941,667 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
                  RW, C
                  RFA - 2
                  $1,000,000$1,000,000
                  RW
                  UFA
                  Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $3,250,000$3,250,000
                  LD
                  UFA - 2
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $1,500,000$1,500,000
                  RD
                  RFA
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $2,350,000$2,350,000
                  G
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
                  LD
                  RFA - 1
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $2,750,000$2,750,000
                  LD/RD
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $3,400,000$3,400,000
                  G
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $2,750,550$2,750,550
                  LD
                  RFA
                  Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
                  $856,667$856,667
                  RD
                  RFA - 1
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $7,000,000$7,000,000
                  LD/RD
                  M-NTC
                  UFA - 2
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $1,100,000$1,100,000
                  LD/RD
                  UFA - 2
                  ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                  Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                  $8,000,000$8,000,000
                  C
                  M-NTC
                  UFA - 3

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                  May 6 at 8:58 p.m.
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                  Sens don’t need more quantity in their prospect pool. They have 2 1sts and an early 2nd . As well as can move Chychrun and Brannstrom for more futures if they wanted.

                  There gonna take Parekh or Iginla
                  May 6 at 8:58 p.m.
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                  I guess it is better than paying him $13m x 7…
                  May 6 at 8:59 p.m.
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                  Sens don’t need more quantity . They have 2 1sts and an early 2nd and can move Chychrun and Branny if they wanted more picks.

                  They need to take the highest RD potential or highest F potential
                  May 6 at 9:00 p.m.
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                  I don’t rly see the need tbh ig without couture it would make sense for him to mentor, but it’s not like we make the playoffs next szn and if we want to move him at the deadline we need a third party team to eat salary
                  May 6 at 9:02 p.m.
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                  Sens accept
                  May 6 at 9:04 p.m.
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                  Might be misunderstanding how the buyout for JT works, but believe there is no incentive for Toronto to dump assets to offload him. A buyout would basically be a wash on the cap for the Leafs. So they would just do that. Then whoever wants him can sign him for less. Better for both teams.
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                  May 6 at 9:05 p.m.
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                  Leafs pass, he’s still a 65-70 point player. Is he worth 11 million? No. Is he useless and a player you NEED to trade away with assets? Also no
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                  May 6 at 9:09 p.m.
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                  Edited May 6 at 9:28 p.m.
                  Quoting: Letsgosharks
                  I don’t rly see the need tbh ig without couture it would make sense for him to mentor, but it’s not like we make the playoffs next szn and if we want to move him at the deadline we need a third party team to eat salary


                  Why does San Jose even think this way?
                  We want a mentor and a good voice for another year of development for the kids, and for many their first year. Johns a solid veteran. We aren’t trading for him to trade him or be a playoff team, and Couture is a non factor right now.

                  Quoting: csick
                  Sens don’t need more quantity . They have 2 1sts and an early 2nd and can move Chychrun and Branny if they wanted more picks.

                  They need to take the highest RD potential or highest F potential


                  Don’t necessarily disagree but I also foresee the Sens considering a OFD isn’t the most important piece. They can get potentially someone nearly just as good at 13. Iginla could also be at 13 in some world.

                  Then you also get nearly a late first with the devils pick. I picked the Sens because it’s plausible, not likely but worth playing around with.

                  Utah won’t move down unless they get a star imo.

                  Quoting: NHLfan10506
                  I guess it is better than paying him $13m x 7…


                  Haha yup. If only we navigated the [ Kane/ Pavelski ] + EK65 Saga better.
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                  May 6 at 9:16 p.m.
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                  Edited May 6 at 9:30 p.m.
                  Quoting: RealKyleDubas
                  Might be misunderstanding how the buyout for JT works, but believe there is no incentive for Toronto to dump assets to offload him. A buyout would basically be a wash on the cap for the Leafs. So they would just do that. Then whoever wants him can sign him for less. Better for both teams.


                  Toronto gains less than 1mil in cap savings… buying him it is the definition of pointless.

                  Quoting: SNipeSHowInc
                  Leafs pass, he’s still a 65-70 point player. Is he worth 11 million? No. Is he useless and a player you NEED to trade away with assets? Also no


                  The point in the Leafs wanting to move JT or Marner is to better utilize their cap. We’ve concluded this Leaf’s study. You’ve seen the ending.

                  The point of trading JT (Karlsson after 100points, a Norris, cementing his HOF status - only returned a first, and San Jose had to retain and eat Hoffmans dead weight contract + take on 5m x 2 years of Granlund (PIT considered that a dump too)…)

                  So JT at 11m will not give the leafs a postive value trade. It will be a dump situation plain and simple.

                  The goal is to let the Leafs sign:
                  UFA TOP4 D Man
                  UFA TOP Goalie
                  UFA Top Depth Player
                  + more like keeping Domi and also Bertuzzi
                  + still having money to spend.
                  + You keep Marner

                  The goal is addition by subtraction
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                  May 6 at 9:29 p.m.
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                  Quoting: yikes
                  Why does San Jose even think this way?
                  We want a mentor and a good voice for another year of development for the kids, and for many their first year. Johns a solid veteran. We aren’t trading for him to trade him and Couture is a non factor right now.

                  I think you misunderstood what I said, if we don't have Couture, I say go for it, but I just doubt it happens
                  May 6 at 9:35 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Letsgosharks

                  Coutures comments aren’t exactly encouraging.

                  I want the dude to live a normal life outside hockey. And he’s got an injury that will never just go away. He said he thought about giving up last year and he said in the exits he wants to live a life outside hockey. I don’t see any signs to “believe” he’s going be a player next year. He could play a few games but I don’t want him to rehab/ train all summer - aggravate his injury - rehab / train again. For now I’m going to hope he can enjoy life with his family and see if he overcomes this.

                  Additionally even if Couture “plans to play” this needs to happen on / around draft day to make more sense.

                  We won’t have any true answers by then. But the Sharks having both Couture and Tavares in their middle-bottom 6 is a benefit not a problem for SJS. They’ll just both even help more with teaching the young team.
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                  May 6 at 9:43 p.m.
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                  Quoting: yikes
                  Why does San Jose even think this way?
                  We want a mentor and a good voice for another year of development for the kids, and for many their first year. Johns a solid veteran. We aren’t trading for him to trade him or be a playoff team, and Couture is a non factor right now.



                  Don’t necessarily disagree but I also foresee the Sens considering a OFD isn’t the most important piece. They can get potentially someone nearly just as good at 13. Iginla could also be at 13 in some world.

                  Then you also get nearly a late first with the devils pick. I picked the Sens because it’s plausible, not likely but worth playing around with.

                  Utah won’t move down unless they get a star imo.



                  Haha yup. If only we navigated the [ Kane/ Pavelski ] + EK65 Saga better.


                  Sanderson-Parekh would be so good
                  May 6 at 10:22 p.m.
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                  Quoting: csick
                  Sens don’t need more quantity in their prospect pool. They have 2 1sts and an early 2nd . As well as can move Chychrun and Brannstrom for more futures if they wanted.

                  There gonna take Parekh or Iginla


                  I agree but there is one scenario where I would consider this trade down. And that scenario is all 6 of these guys off the board, which is extremely unlikely as one of Silayev, Eiserman, Buium or someone else is likely to go high.

                  -Celebrini
                  -Demidov
                  -Levshunov
                  -Lindstrom
                  -Parekh
                  -Iginla

                  Then I would probably make this trade and move down knowing that 7-13 will likely be a bunch of LD's and we would be able to snag one of Catton, Helenius, Yakemchuk, Dickinson, or MBN
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