No NJD doesn’t hope this helps.

They've already talked about moving the pick, just don't know how they'd value it

They aren't gonna move back nearly 20 spots in the first round for a goalie who turns 35 next season

Not for 35 year old Jacob Markstrom hope this helps.

For unretained Markstrom maybe a conditional 2nd that can upgrade into a 1st based on play.

They've already got Markstrom as their target apparently, what value Calgary wants I have no idea but they were close to a deal already and I don't see Calgary asking for less than a 1st. A top 10 1st? No but it would be interesting to see

If they were willing to do that then they would have done that in season. There's also no way Calgary values Markstrom that low

NJD can do better in goal simply using the 2025 WPG 2nd rounder. No need to move from 10 to 27.

Then why didn't they at the trade deadline?

They got that pick for Tyler Toffoli on deadline day. I think it was a little too last minute to flip the pick on the same day.

Well since then Markstrom has reportedly refused to waive for a different team, burned the most valuable year he had, and been an 0.875 goalie since Valentine’s Day.

In other words his value has PLUMMETED.

All of Calgary’s leverage is gone. That relationship is a disaster now

Who would your target with that pick be?

Boston fans won’t like it but I think they could acquire Linus Ullmark with that pick and a B tier prospect who could make the NHL for the 2024-2025 season. I think that’s the move and it’s done after the draft so an extension can be negotiated for Ullmark in advance.

That's not how this league works unfortunately. Markstrom knows it's business and knows he is being shopped, whether he agrees to NJ or not is a dispute but it wouldn't hurt the relationship between him and management.

His value is depending on NJs managements opinion. If they think he's still a starting goalie and want stability then they'd be comfortable with him, but neither you or I know what they think.

Like I said in the description, NJ is likely the team looking for more out of this deal but I think it would be something from Calgary like a 2nd round pick or something. That's about as even value as you're gonna get for each team, in this scenario anyways

Boston likely laughs at that offer. If NJ wanted Ullmark the ask is definitely 10th and they'd likely want it to be 1 for 1

Yeah pass on that then.

Markstrom publicly called out management for handling it poorly.

And neither his or Conroy end of season interviews speak kindly about their current relationship


NJD passes

Montreal isn’t getting 2 top 10 picks for 5th overall by being a middleman. Even if they wanted to retain 50% of Markstrom, NJD still passes

If we move the #10 pick for a goalie, it’s the right idea, maybe not the right pieces. Would more likely be NJD trades #10 for Markstrom and the Vancouver 1st (and maybe other pieces).

…or NJD trades #10 to Minnesota for #13/Gustavsson

…or something like that.

But we probably get a goalie after July 1st when the goalie carousal really starts turning.

I know teams want the high tier piece. But no reason for NJD to trade 10th overall for pieces that don’t require 10th overall.

Markstrom can be acquired without including 10th overall. NJD has plenty of pieces that are much closer to his value. No need to make it convoluted.

2nd that can upgrade to a 1st based on play and team performance (downgrades to a 3rd if the Allen condition hits). Otherwise, tough luck for Calgary and their disgruntled goalie

Montreal is giving up 2 first round picks, hardly a middle man when they're giving up proper value. NJ is giving up the least but also getting the least. I understand why they wouldn't do it but let's not pretend this offer is MTL winning.

It's just me trying to find a balance, if you wanna say Calgary needs to retain or add another pick I'd get that but MTL is the one giving up the most valuable piece here

Markstrom is not a piece that requires 10th overall to be put in the discussions

Maybe and maybe not. This off season is going to be interesting for goalies as we see multiple teams have problems with goalie stability. Ottawa, Edmonton, Colorado, maybe Carolina, Toronto and NJ are all teams who could look at their team and say 'a stable goalie puts us into the playoffs/contention" and with that much demand comes a higher price.

So some teams don’t have great goalies? Sounds like every single other year.

Doesn’t make the market ridiculous.

No need to put 10th overall in a discussion where 10th overall is not needed.

Holtz+25 1st for 5th overall

NJD may need to add some sweeteners, but MTL wants holtz.

See how that makes no sense. Putting 5th overall into that discussion doesn’t make sense, no matter how you try to “balance it out” with sweeteners.

I agree…I am commenting more on the type of trade, less on that overall value. Being 10th overall in a draft with 11-12 guys in next tier (after Celebrini tier of one)…I would imagine there would be multiple offers to choose from.

I also think the move for a goalie comes after July 1st. Boston probably won’t want to move Ullmark until Swayman contract is settled and they will want open negotiating window. Nashville won’t want to sell Saros as a rental. Markstrom has a big bonus July 1st. Some teams may sign a goalie in free agency, like Florida if they move Knight. The whole goalie carousel will turn in early July…after draft.

Difference is that MTL doesn't have Holtz being the difference between playoff wildcard and contention.

NJ is a goalie away from true contention. You don't think Markstrom is that goalie and I understand that but thinking Calgary will just take a 2nd and be happy isn't true either.

It was an idea of mine, you dont like it, life goes on

NJD was a contender last year with elite defensive structure.


Dmen are much more reliable and predictable than 35 year old goalies. Would much rather target a great LHD to become elite defensively again than gamble on a 35 year old goalie who’s been sub .900 over the last 2 years

A contender who didn't make the playoffs, because of how bad their goalies were. And NJ would only need a 4-6 dman wouldn't they? Don't see them needing to go after a top pairing LHD when you have Hughes