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Forum: NHL TradesFri. at 5:42 p.m.
Thread: (TBL/NSH) - McDonagh for Myers, Mismash
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>budgeteam</b></div><div>They are still the same.

Tampa traded McDonagh for an asset (cap space).

They used that asset.

Circumstances changed and they reacquired him.

Both teams realized value from both of the trades. It's very simple stuff. Most of the disconnect comes from people failing to view cap as an asset.

Nothing I originally said in the post you quoted was invalidated by Tampa re-acquiring McDonagh 2 years later.</div></div>

1. Tampa never bought out Philippe Myers.

In this thread, you implied repeatedly that it was going to happen.

It didn't.




2. You also said, "Trade value is irrelevant if a NTC blocks a team from extracting it".



McDonagh had a NTC and specifically asked for a trade back to Tampa.

Much like Tarasenko having a NTC and specifically asking for a trade to Florida.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nhl/predators/2024/05/21/barry-trotz-ryan-mcdonagh-trade-nashville-predators-tampa-bay-lightning/73788303007/



Knowing that they were asked by Nashville to re-acquire McDonagh, Tampa could have decided not to allow Nashville to extract any trade value.

Given that McDonagh was traded by Tampa to Nashville for next to nothing besides the cap space.

They decided to give Nashville a 2nd round pick instead.

Trade value is relevant.




3. You said, "there is an opportunity cost for them to acquire McDonagh, which is they now tie up 27 million on him that could have been used on a different player".

Why should Tampa have to pay a 2nd round pick for the opportunity cost of acquiring McDonagh while Nashville didn't have to pay anything ?

Doesn't seem fair.

This is like Patrick asking Spongebob for the opportunity cost of borrowing a quarter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeTbIa-OsMQ




4. You said, "If Tampa can make better use of that 27 million than they would by keeping McDonagh, the trade is a win for them."

Apparently, they couldn't.




5. Trades aren't supposed to be win/win situations.

Trades are supposed to be zero sum games.

Everything else is spin.

It's very simple stuff.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 29 at 9:28 p.m.
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