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Toronto Maple Leafs
Jun. 4 at 2:10 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I think yes Marner has shown it but that would make it on a whole notha level that nobody not even his father or agent would want him going there as it would ruin him
IMO I think both sides will work together on a move but its not gonna be July 2nd on the dot
Would not surprise me if its August or September we see something</div></div>
Marners camp just came out and said they won't be helping facilitate a trade.
So Uhh, yeah they are THAT petty
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Jun. 3 at 9:04 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Is that a good ehh or a bad ehh
Or just using the classic Canadian expression for maybe we go for something bigger</div></div>
means meh. Not all that interested
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Jun. 3 at 8:40 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Yea thats fair
But yea if they up for it Drury for Liligren would be something I think could work for both sides</div></div>
ehh
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Jun. 3 at 8:25 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Which one the one for one or the bigger one
Cause yea the last one probs is to much on our side
But I think the one for one was fair</div></div>
2nd
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Jun. 3 at 8:15 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I wonder about Drury for Liligren
Drury to me feels like a breakout candidate and with some more mins could shine here as our 3c. He's good in the faceoff circle and I think there's something there
If not you could try for a blockbuster also involving Marner
If no blockbuster I wouldnt be opposed to something like Necas + Drury for 23 OA + Liligren as a tier below blockbuster trade</div></div>
Not a chance Carolina agrees to that
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Jun. 3 at 7:59 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Im in the mindset of 2 trades
Something like what we saw between EDM and CAR to where Liligren gets shipped out for some nice top 9 forward
OR...
He and Marner are packaged together in some blockbuster deal as to where idk but that would make for a crazy summer lul</div></div>
Carolina would be a team in on Lily.
Not sure they have things that help us in return though, unless we are adding 23 to get Necas - who I am ambivalent about
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Jun. 3 at 7:54 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>But where are slotting him at this point? He's gonna more than a 3rd pair but doesn't play physical enough to warrant more.
I don't think he plays well enough of 2 way game to warrant top 2 pair role.
Convince he can clear the net please, I beg you.
He doesn't do the things he does well good enough to ignore the weakness he has</div></div>
Who said anything about finding him a spot? He's getting traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>You want a pick for him or a player coming back kind of like Bear for Foegele
For me if we can get Hoglander I would be pretty happy
As for if were gonna beg for someone like him idk. As if Brad has his way his upgrade's probs coming this summer as to who idk
But im fully expecting 2-3 new Dman on this blue line next year as to who idk. Now if they **** up the replacement then yep we could see that scenerio
The Dcore I showed in my deal with the devil would be my ideal offseason but VGK is in on the big fish again Theodore coming then extending would arguably make Liligren a second thought</div></div>
Depends honestly. I'm expecting something like:
Lily +23 to CHI for Jones (2 mil ret) and 67 (or 72)
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Jun. 3 at 7:30 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>Timothy Liljegren's lack of physical power is a weakness other teams can and do easily exploit, and they do that primarily when he is trying to defend at the net-front.
How much more do you want that to hurt us?
And you want him in the top4 when he can so easily exploited? It's not his other abilities are elite like say Bouchard who you can over look for his defensive play.</div></div>
All I'm going to say about Lily is that 2 things are true about him.
1) He's getting shipped out
2) If he were on another team, Leafs fans would be begging for a D like him and offering insane trades
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Jun. 3 at 7:15 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>That muffin of a clear attempt before the gwg was BRUTAL</div></div>
They did it like 3 times to. I was screaming about it and ofc it burned us. Lost multiple faceoffs, couldn't get it out. Just Lazy play after lazy play. They stopped playing hockey and thought OT was a given.
Frankly it was an embarassing showing from most of the team. They owe Simpson an apology because he was PHENOMENAL. Only reason they were even in the game at all
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Jun. 2 at 11:56 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>London pulled a Leafs</div></div>
They were playing for OT and just lazily throwing the puck away.
Fuxking stupid. It's a championship level game you don't play for FUXKING OT.
Refs swallowed whistles because they were too scared of our PP but the loss was entirely self inflicted. I'm still pissed
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
May 31 at 10:15 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>What's this about Dakota Joshua to Toronto?</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Just Mirtle and Siegal who basically were shooting down rumours he wouldnt want to come here
Would stay clear as this feels like a overpay mistake waiting to happen</div></div>
21% shooting % and 103.7 pdo
Not for more than a buriable amount lmao
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 10:38 p.m.
Thread:
Just workshopping some ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>remowilliams</b></div><div>It is exactly the opposite of what the team is doing. Agian no interest in an aging player on the decline were looking for a top six winger with speed.</div></div>
And you are missing the point of the trade entirely
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 10:27 p.m.
Thread:
Just workshopping some ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>remowilliams</b></div><div>Canucks would have no interest in Smith.Too old n too slow as per the GM theyre trying to get younger n faster.</div></div>
Everyone says that. It means nothing lmao - particularly when you're talking about cap dumps. Canucks need to lose cap, and this has them losing a year off a contract that isn't working out for a guy who has a history of production and produced more last season
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 10:21 p.m.
Thread:
Just workshopping some ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>remowilliams</b></div><div>Canucks pass
IMHO.</div></div>
Getting a new guy looking for a new start with half the term should help I think.
The pick or prospect wouldn't be particularly meaningful, which is why I didn't even bother putting them in the trade. I think if you're looking to help with the cap situation, this will
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
May 28 at 9:29 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
I have major doubts this is even real, but if the rumors about Vancouver moving Petey do end up being true, Leafs absolutely need to win that bidding war.
Send marner with an extension and whatever else needed to get it done.
-AM-Domi
Knies-EP40-WN
McMann-JT-
Dewer-Pope-
Fill out the roster with guys like Cowan and other cheap wings to spend the rest on D and Gs
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 28 at 7:28 p.m.
Thread:
Nurse and Campbell Thank Us Later
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>My thought process is we aren’t losing anything of great value. By the time Nurse’s contract is up we will be really bad. It won’t matter.</div></div>
Sure, but you aren't getting nearly enough back to be doing the Oilers a favour like this. A late 1st, a 3rd, and a guy who has been having development issues?
To take on the Campbell and Nurse deals? Keep in mind that money they free up is to pay Draisaitl - You're charging pennies on the dollar
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 28 at 7:23 p.m.
Thread:
Nurse and Campbell Thank Us Later
I don't hate the idea, I just don't think this trade is particularly enticing to Pittsburgh.
They are taking on a lot of money and risk for not nearly enough benefit
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 28 at 6:33 p.m.
Thread:
tkachuk cubed
Where's the third? 😅
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
May 28 at 6:33 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Nobody can read minds, so you are right</div></div>
I can. Which is why I know that everyone is stupid except me
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 28 at 6:01 p.m.
Thread:
Darnell Nurse for Torey Krug
Not sure I understand this for the Blues. Double the term and 50% more cap hit for what? Nurse isn't that much better to justify this
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
May 27 at 4:46 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fangm</b></div><div>I'm 99% sure that Tre called Wass and asked what it would take to sign Domi and the answer was 6x$6M. </div></div>
This is not something you should be 99% sure about given the information we have
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
May 27 at 3:17 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fangm</b></div><div>It was a number given to him by Domi's agent.</div></div>
And that should tell you everything you need to know. It isn't a real number. He never actually asked for that. He's just trying to move the overton window to inflate the contract
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
May 27 at 3:05 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fangm</b></div><div>It's already been reported that he's asking 5 years at $5-6M.</div></div>
This is not true. You'd know this if you actually read the piece. Its just a number Lebrun made up.
Also, he had a worse season than last year, where he could only get a 1 year prove it deal. Its total BS
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
May 27 at 1:06 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
Can someone explain why Brady Tkachuk keeps coming up in trade talk?
Did something happen?
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
May 26 at 9:37 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Jake Guentzel (a much more valuable player) returned a conditional 2nd+ and a cap dump</div></div>
That is not remotely an accurate description of what Guentzel got.
And the comparison you made isn't even the correct one.
Its between rentals traded in the summer vs the deadline, not rentals traded at the deadline, or a few weeks before the deadline.
Its pretty well established that full year rentals do not get a proportionally larger return compared to deadline rentals (and are thus MUCH better value for a buyers assets)
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