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EDM 19-20 with no frills and trying to be as realistic-pessimistic as possible

Created by: F50marco
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 18, 2019
Published: Mar. 18, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Term Remaining
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
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NMC
UFA - 5
Description
DISCLAIMER - this isn't the perfect scenario, I know. Obviously if Erik Karlsson and Panarin want to sign here and Lucic gets his contract voided and Sekera/Russel go on permanent LTIR, everything would be fine but I'm assuming EDM isn't that lucky. This would be like making the best of an already shi-tty situation is what I'm going after because that means its probably the most realistic. Slow and steady wins the race.



1 - No stud free agent signings. I'm assuming those players don't want to go to EDM so only guys who go to the highest bidder and that are lesser quality players- Vanek is simply a finisher of McDavids plays and plays mostly Off-zone starts and PP. Vanek may be slow but in terms of just being in the right place at the right time to finish off plays in the off zone he can still produce and still thinks the game at a high pace which would compliment McDavid better.He'd be a very cheap upgrade over guys like Rattie who can't stick with McDavid and be able to produce 30-50 points alongside him in a limited role. He'd also be a hopefully worth a 4th rounder at the TDL with elevated stats - Panik would be getting a chance to play with Draisaitl/McDavid to rack up some points and would be advantageous for his career insetad of going to another team who may end up playing in a 3rd line role but on a better team. He can finish as he's shown with Kane and Toews in Chicago and has some decent skill. He wouldn't cost a lot maybe 4Mx3 and would probably go to the highest bidder regardless of the team. (Where as Dzingel for example will have a lot of interested teams so odds are he's choose another team over Edm) Didn't resign Chiasson as I think he'll want to get paid and the Oilers should stay away from that next contract as it'll be more than he's worth IMO.

2 - No overly crazy trades. Only two that I've seen on CF that make some sense. Maybe someone needs to add a little here or there, fine add it in, this just the basis of the trade. Im assuming Lucic waives to hopefully rejuvenate his career and Schneider agrees to waive to get bought out and become a free agent and sign as a back up to another team. I'm assuming NJ doesn't want to buy anyone out but rather get a player to use that money one instead. Schneider will end up playing in the AHL if not while Lucic could potentially be a 25-40 point guy in NJ. EDM just wants to get the cheapest buyout cap possible without having to lose a high draft pick or prospect to get someone to take Lucic on. This really depends on Lucic and Schneider so I'll assume they agree to waive but no one knows for sure.
The Brown for Benning trade makes so much sense fro both teams. I know fans of TO will probably scoff at it but in reality this makes a lot of sense. TO needs a RHD, Benning is slightly cheaper than Brown, Brown has chemistry with McDavid already. etc this should work out for everyone as I think Benning is better than shows but playing in Edm makes guys look worse they probably are.

3 - No young players brought up this year. Next year is better for them with some AHL seasoning first. I kept Puljujarvi on as he's already hit the point of no return IMO and is only a little bit of luck away from regaining his confidence. Not necessarily a 50 goal scorer but at least playing in the top 6 decently. (20 goals - that isn't too much of a stretch) If others think he'd be better in Bakersfield than so be it but he'd probably have to be replaced with Rattie on the roster for example.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,200,000
2$900,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,000,000
1$2,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Turcotte, Alex
3$925,000
Trades
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2.
NJD
  1. Hawkey, Hayden [Reserve List]
  2. Lucic, Milan
  3. 2020 4th round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$74,514,499$0$500,000$8,485,501
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 7
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
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$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$2,835,000$2,835,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$687,500$687,500
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
RFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RW, LW
UFA

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Mar. 18, 2019 at 3:58 p.m.
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NJ doesnt do that. Would rather have Schnieder mentor Blackwood and split 50/50 next year (as schnieder has looked very good recently) than trade for a 4th liner with a year more than Schnieder on his deal
Mar. 18, 2019 at 4:43 p.m.
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Quoting: shmoeman
NJ doesnt do that. Would rather have Schnieder mentor Blackwood and split 50/50 next year (as schnieder has looked very good recently) than trade for a 4th liner with a year more than Schnieder on his deal


Has 5 games really made all the difference though? I mean you do agree he was absolutely garbage for over season and a half previously? Sure he could be the backup but are you really prepared to have him backup the team for the remaining 3 years? Goalies play a much more pivotal position. If you suck in net, you lose the game. If your 4th line LW'er sucks, its not that big of deal. What if this past 5 games are a flash in the pan, this team can not afford to lose any more points at the hand of their goaltending or playoffs will not be realistic. Playing Blackwood 70 games each year isn't realistic either. At least not for a while.

I crap on Lucic as much the next guy but on a 4th line role he could be effective. Lord knows he can still drop them with the best of them and can still hit, intimidate, produce 4th line numbers. Once again its not ideal, but I think thinking Schneider has been reborn a new will be a solid goalie for the next 3 years is probably naive.

Now with all that said, if NJ is ok with just buying Schneider out lets say, than yeah, this trade would probably make no sense as buying out Cory is not as hard as Lucic would be so why make this trade. I'm only assuming NJ doesn't want to buy anyone out and they are trying to make the best of a situation that has gone sour. Schneider hasn't been good the past 3 years and chances are, he won't be getting any better at 34 years old. NJ also gets an extra draft pick as added compensation.
Mar. 18, 2019 at 10:23 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
Has 5 games really made all the difference though? I mean you do agree he was absolutely garbage for over season and a half previously? Sure he could be the backup but are you really prepared to have him backup the team for the remaining 3 years? Goalies play a much more pivotal position. If you suck in net, you lose the game. If your 4th line LW'er sucks, its not that big of deal. What if this past 5 games are a flash in the pan, this team can not afford to lose any more points at the hand of their goaltending or playoffs will not be realistic. Playing Blackwood 70 games each year isn't realistic either. At least not for a while.

I crap on Lucic as much the next guy but on a 4th line role he could be effective. Lord knows he can still drop them with the best of them and can still hit, intimidate, produce 4th line numbers. Once again its not ideal, but I think thinking Schneider has been reborn a new will be a solid goalie for the next 3 years is probably naive.

Now with all that said, if NJ is ok with just buying Schneider out lets say, than yeah, this trade would probably make no sense as buying out Cory is not as hard as Lucic would be so why make this trade. I'm only assuming NJ doesn't want to buy anyone out and they are trying to make the best of a situation that has gone sour. Schneider hasn't been good the past 3 years and chances are, he won't be getting any better at 34 years old. NJ also gets an extra draft pick as added compensation.


Since Schneider returned from injury, he has had a 2.38 GAA with a .925 Save %. You are also forgetting that Schneider's 21 game stretch of bad games was while he had a hip injury. If you look at Schneider's first 28 starts of last year, he has a 2.48 GAA and a .923 Save %. If you take away that 21 games stretch that was riddled with injury and bad luck, Cory has been a very good goalie. I would much rather have him start 30 games per year for the next 3 years and bring along Blackwood, than have a 4th liner for 5 years who hasn't scored in over 20 games.
Mar. 19, 2019 at 10:12 a.m.
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Since Schneider returned from injury, he has had a 2.38 GAA with a .925 Save %. You are also forgetting that Schneider's 21 game stretch of bad games was while he had a hip injury. If you look at Schneider's first 28 starts of last year, he has a 2.48 GAA and a .923 Save %. If you take away that 21 games stretch that was riddled with injury and bad luck, Cory has been a very good goalie. I would much rather have him start 30 games per year for the next 3 years and bring along Blackwood, than have a 4th liner for 5 years who hasn't scored in over 20 games.


Obviously picking random sample sizes is easy, man. Lucic had 4 goals in 6 games this season at one point....... I think the current situation is clouding your judgement (not saying you have to accept this trade though). Its easy to say now that Schneider is back to normal and winning games, etc but lets reopen discussion next year when the Devils will more than likely be another lottery pick team and Schneider has a GAA over 3.00 and a S% of less .900. You may not be so willing to defend Schneider then. You may be dreading putting Schneider in as backup while Lucic who is not world beater by any means can still give quality 4th line minutes for the Devils every game. In a limited role, Lucic is decent hockey player. He's just not the top 6 he used to be and top 9 may be pushing it also. Give him 12 mins a night to grind the opposition and he'll do his job just fine.

Also just for clarification, Schneider has one less year than Lucic only. Not two. Cory is 33 and Lucic is 30. Im not saying Lucic is a stud or anything but simply based on that, I think he has more to give than Schneider will. But honestly If I were EDM, i'd be more than willing to compensate NJ with an extra pick along with Lucic in exchange for Schneider. I obviously set very specific rules for this hypothetical situation to make sense. If NJ is ok with buying Schneider out, then this trade has no value to NJ. It has to be that they will 100% not buy out Schneider until his contract ends.
Mar. 20, 2019 at 8:27 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
Obviously picking random sample sizes is easy, man. Lucic had 4 goals in 6 games this season at one point....... I think the current situation is clouding your judgement (not saying you have to accept this trade though). Its easy to say now that Schneider is back to normal and winning games, etc but lets reopen discussion next year when the Devils will more than likely be another lottery pick team and Schneider has a GAA over 3.00 and a S% of less .900. You may not be so willing to defend Schneider then. You may be dreading putting Schneider in as backup while Lucic who is not world beater by any means can still give quality 4th line minutes for the Devils every game. In a limited role, Lucic is decent hockey player. He's just not the top 6 he used to be and top 9 may be pushing it also. Give him 12 mins a night to grind the opposition and he'll do his job just fine.

Also just for clarification, Schneider has one less year than Lucic only. Not two. Cory is 33 and Lucic is 30. Im not saying Lucic is a stud or anything but simply based on that, I think he has more to give than Schneider will. But honestly If I were EDM, i'd be more than willing to compensate NJ with an extra pick along with Lucic in exchange for Schneider. I obviously set very specific rules for this hypothetical situation to make sense. If NJ is ok with buying Schneider out, then this trade has no value to NJ. It has to be that they will 100% not buy out Schneider until his contract ends.


At this point, if NJ moved on from Schneider, it would be via buyout at the end of the 2019-20 season. For next year, it is worth seeing if he is actually back on track. If he is, then that is a certain value add. Lucic is negative value to the Devils because his days of playing top 6 are over. Any spot he takes on the 4th line is a spot that could go to a prospect, so he really brings nothing to the table from a Devils perspective.
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