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Det - Chi draft trade

Created by: Drw4209
Team: 2018-19 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 14, 2019
Published: Apr. 14, 2019
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$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
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UFA - 5
Description
I know Hawks may consider Byram at 3 but if they decided to go F, Wings would love to move up for him. Would CHI be willing to move down 3 spots knowing they could still get one of Turcotte, Cozens, Dach or even Podkolzin?
Trades
DET
  1. 2019 1st round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. 2019 1st round pick (DET)
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (NYI)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$79,500,000$80,429,543$755,000$962,500-$929,543
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
UFA - 5
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$3,954,545$3,954,545
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,083,333$6,083,333
C
UFA - 3
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$3,300,000$3,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$3,850,000$3,850,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$750,000$750K)
LW, C
UFA - 3
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,687,500$2,687,500
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,291,666$5,291,666
G
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,166,666$3,166,666
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW, RD
UFA - 1

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Apr. 14, 2019 at 12:51 p.m.
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exo2769
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This just isnt in the realm of close enough to move up to the #3 OA. There's a TON of data to show DET would basically have to give their entire draft (maybe more in all honesty) to move up to #3.
Apr. 14, 2019 at 1:09 p.m.
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Quoting: exo2769
This just isnt in the realm of close enough to move up to the #3 OA. There's a TON of data to show DET would basically have to give their entire draft (maybe more in all honesty) to move up to #3.


This is not close to reality actually. According to EVERY NHL Draft Track value chart out there, the 3rd pick is worth anywhere between 13-15 points more than the 6th pick. To make up the 15 points (using the high end of the scale), they would need to give up the 35th pick (worth around 11 points, using the low end), and the 57th pick (worth about 4 points on the low end). So, it would be the 6th, 35th, and 57th for the 3rd pick. It's not their entire draft.

That being said, no way KH (and it will be KH, unless Tampa releases Stevie early, which I don't see them doing) trades multiple shots of success to move up for a dman. DET needs Cs as well, and there will be a number of them at 6 to choose from that would fit the mold (Turcotte, or even either of the righties Dach or Cozens, and DET needs right handed Cs). Byram isn't that much better than the Cs (and is many arguments, isn't better than Turcotte, Cozens, or Dach, depending on the evaluator).

The funny thing is, Chicago needs Cs as well (can't go forever with Towes, and all of CHIs best prospects are Dman with Henri, Beaudin, and Boqvist) as does Colorado (Makar, Timmins, Girard, and Meloche are all dman, but outside of Kaut, who does COL got as Fs). LA just needs talent, so they'll draft the BPA. If Podkolzin was available at 6, KH could realistically trade down (EDM, PHI, would be of interest) and pick up picks to get to the next level (with EDM pick being the target to still secure a top C while EDM would draft Podkolzin).
Apr. 14, 2019 at 1:15 p.m.
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Edited Apr. 15, 2019 at 4:48 p.m.
Quoting: TMarch
This is not close to reality actually. According to EVERY NHL Draft Track value chart out there, the 3rd pick is worth anywhere between 13-15 points more than the 6th pick. To make up the 15 points (using the high end of the scale), they would need to give up the 35th pick (worth around 11 points, using the low end), and the 57th pick (worth about 4 points on the low end). So, it would be the 6th, 35th, and 57th for the 3rd pick. It's not their entire draft.

That being said, no way KH (and it will be KH, unless Tampa releases Stevie early, which I don't see them doing) trades multiple shots of success to move up for a dman. DET needs Cs as well, and there will be a number of them at 6 to choose from that would fit the mold (Turcotte, or even either of the righties Dach or Cozens, and DET needs right handed Cs). Byram isn't that much better than the Cs (and is many arguments, isn't better than Turcotte, Cozens, or Dach, depending on the evaluator).

The funny thing is, Chicago needs Cs as well (can't go forever with Towes, and all of CHIs best prospects are Dman with Henri, Beaudin, and Boqvist) as does Colorado (Makar, Timmins, Girard, and Meloche are all dman, but outside of Kaut, who does COL got as Fs). LA just needs talent, so they'll draft the BPA. If Podkolzin was available at 6, KH could realistically trade down (EDM, PHI, would be of interest) and pick up picks to get to the next level (with EDM pick being the target to still secure a top C while EDM would draft Podkolzin).


I agree and also disagree. History shows what it would take...BUT there isn't a true comp. Picks 3rd round and after dont really add much to this kind of trade.

Quoting: exo2769
I'm not a fan for a couple of reasons. A.) If it's determine Vasili isn't North America Bound...then to me the #6 pick is within 3rd tier talent. Hughes/Kappo...then Vasili/Byram/Cozens/Dach...then the Turcottes/Zegras/etc... So until I hear Vaili's North America bound. the #6 is a tough pill to swallow for me.

BUT more importantly is B.) There's TONs of data to show what trade value needs to be for moving up in the draft. Literally dozens of trades to review. This value isn't close to enough.

Trying to filter top 10 picks only...and picks for picks only

Logan Couture #9 for #13, #44, & #87
Luke Schenn #5 for #7, #37, & #68
Colin Wilson #7 for #9 and #40

So to jump up 3 spots in the draft from #6 to #3...it'll take something more like #6, #35, and #58...Something very close to the Luke Schnn trade, but honestly it would take MORE since it's the #3 OA vs #5OA AND it's jumping up 3 slots vs 2 slots. So start thinking picks from multiple years. The #6, #37, #58 and 2nd rounder next year...Or #6 and 1st next year.
Apr. 14, 2019 at 1:20 p.m.
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Detroit would have to do better which means the Detroit 2nd round pick not the NYI pick. That said, doubt Detroit would move up due to so much need. Someone like Edmonton or Anaheim could be a trade partner to move up or LA if they have their eyes set on Podkozlin.
Apr. 14, 2019 at 1:24 p.m.
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That is probably one of the worst offers I’ve ever seen on this website. This is so far away from what the real price would be that it’s not even funny. Detroit has nothing to give up that the hawks or any team in top 5 will accept
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