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What constitutes an overpay for Marner

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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 3, 2019
Published: Aug. 3, 2019
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94 points seems like a lot but is that all that matters? It would have won the Art Ross five years ago but this past year 94 points was good for 11th and his points per game rate was 15th for players playing at least 50 games.

The rules have changed, the game is faster and scoring is up. 31 players scored at a point per game or better last year compared to 24 the year before, 8 the year prior, 6, 8, and so on. Scoring is up.

Draisaitl, Tarasenko, Gaudreau, and Pastrnak are all high scoring wingers, all scored more points per game compared to the rest of the league in their contract years (10th, 9th, 7th, 12th), and all signed deals ranging from 6-8 years with cap hit %'s from 8.89 to 11.33% and cap hits in the 6.66 to 8.5 million range.

Then there is the Tavares factor. A 25 point jump is partially self growth, partially team growth, and partially playing with Tavares who over the last decade, is 3rd in goals and 7th in points.

I like Marner. Tavares likes Marner. Matthews and the rest of the team likes Marner. His agent REALLY likes Marner but let's be realistic here. You're not comparable to a #1 centre and I was generous with the 4 comps I used. 8 figures is an overpay at any contract length.

I gave him 11% on his 8 year deal. Yes, I know he won't take it.

Good thing Dubas cleared out all the dead money to do it.
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2020
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23$81,500,000$79,161,366$0$0$2,338,634
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
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UFA - 6
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$8,965,000$8,965,000
RW
UFA - 6
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 5
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$775,000$775,000
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UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
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$700,000$700,000
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$675,000$675,000
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$725,000$725,000
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$700,000$700,000
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UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
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UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
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UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
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RW
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
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$863,333$863,333
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Aug. 3, 2019 at 1:54 p.m.
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To me I’m fine with a 9.5 as long as it’s 7-8 years because it’ll be a steal in a couple years
Aug. 3, 2019 at 2:11 p.m.
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Anything more than 9 is an overpay. 9-10 is borderline acceptable, if he gets more than 10 there needs to be a serious conversation about Dubas's job.
Aug. 3, 2019 at 2:13 p.m.
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Anything more than 9 is an overpay. 9-10 is borderline acceptable, if he gets more than 10 there needs to be a serious conversation about Dubas's job.


Unless it’s a 8 year deal.
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Aug. 3, 2019 at 2:14 p.m.
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Very well thought out, gj, as leafs GM I'd be willing to go a bit more than 9, but no more than what Mark Stone got (ideally for me, a person who hates the leafs he signs like a 12x2 deal, then in two years gets like 14x3 bc the cap will probably go up quite a bit, then he walks as a UFA lol)
Aug. 3, 2019 at 2:17 p.m.
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Unless it’s a 8 year deal.


Even on an 8year deal, I wouldn't pay more than 10. He's a 60-70 point player without Tavares, but luckily for him we won't see that side of him since Tavares is going to be here for a long time. Tavares's free agency came at the perfect time for Marner.
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