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Shooting Ideas - Protecting 5 D (trades w/ Ari, LA, Nsh)

Created by: LeafsFan
Team: 2016-17 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 24, 2016
Published: Dec. 2, 2016
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Left Handed
Original Team
Waivers Exempt
Right Handed
Position
Trade Clause
Max Perf. Bonus
Expiry Status
Term Remaining
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Not refined, and not really well thought out, just put it together quickly. What do you guys think about protecting 5 defenseman?
Protect:
-Kadri
-Brown
-Leipsic
-Rielly
-Muzzin
-Stone
-Gardiner
-Carrick
-Andersen
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Holland, Peter
  2. Marincin, Martin
  3. 2018 3rd round pick (SJS)
2.
LAK
  1. Hunwick, Matt
  2. van Riemsdyk, James ($2,125,000 retained)
  3. 2017 2nd round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. 2017 3rd round pick (NSH)
  2. 2017 6th round pick (NYR)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2017
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Logo of the SJS
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Logo of the NSH
Logo of the TOR
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Logo of the TOR
Logo of the NYR
Logo of the TOR
2018
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Logo of the TOR
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the TOR
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Logo of the TOR
2019
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Logo of the TOR
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$73,000,000$57,169,500$512,000$5,765,000$15,830,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 3
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 2
$2,950,000$2,950,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 2
$4,200,000$4,200,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 3
$612,500$612,500
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
UFA - 6
$686,667$686,667 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
$800,000$800,000
LW
UFA - 4
$736,666$736,666 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
RW
UFA - 2
$675,000$675,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 5
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
UFA - 3
$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 2
$600,000$600,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Dec. 2, 2016 at 12:35 p.m.
#1
leafs1967again
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Forgot the good prospect or 1st round (protected) pick for Stone.

Forgot the same in the Muzzin deal (he was just on Team Canada.........)
Dec. 2, 2016 at 12:39 p.m.
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Quoting: leafs1967again
Forgot the good prospect or 1st round (protected) pick for Stone.

Forgot the same in the Muzzin deal (he was just on Team Canada.........)


That's fair, here was my thinking:

ARI - Stone is currently a rental defenseman, and maybe someone will outbid them, BUT I would think Arizona would prefer roster bodies over late draft picks, Marincin is an analytics darling, something that ARI is really big on, Holland has good possession stats too. If it took another/higher pick I would be alright with it

LA - I don't think they would want to move Muzzin but my thinking is they get desperate for a LW top line forward. JVR at 2 million is probably the best available and could really help push. A stretch I'm sure but he's big, talented and is really hot right now, also gives them some cap flexibility
Dec. 2, 2016 at 12:49 p.m.
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I like Stone and Muzzin, and the reasoning you had behind the Stone trade is pretty solid in my opinion. The Muzzin trade however, as much as I like him, I don't think you can have Gardiner AND Muzzin behind Gardiner. The pipeline for Left handed defensive prospects is very strong with Nielsen, Dermott and Valiev having fairly strong seasons in different regards, and some people saying that Loov still has a good chance at a roster spot next season. Maybe trading one of those prospects for Stone or Muzzin may help (adding them to the trade) but overall I'm not sure.
Overall, I do like the trades and the reasoning, but I'm just not sure about Muzzin AND Gardiner behind Rielly, although the three of them together would make up a strong defensive lineup, especially with Zaitsev and Stone on the other side.
Dec. 2, 2016 at 12:55 p.m.
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Quoting: BStone67
I like Stone and Muzzin, and the reasoning you had behind the Stone trade is pretty solid in my opinion. The Muzzin trade however, as much as I like him, I don't think you can have Gardiner AND Muzzin behind Gardiner. The pipeline for Left handed defensive prospects is very strong with Nielsen, Dermott and Valiev having fairly strong seasons in different regards, and some people saying that Loov still has a good chance at a roster spot next season. Maybe trading one of those prospects for Stone or Muzzin may help (adding them to the trade) but overall I'm not sure.
Overall, I do like the trades and the reasoning, but I'm just not sure about Muzzin AND Gardiner behind Rielly, although the three of them together would make up a strong defensive lineup, especially with Zaitsev and Stone on the other side.


You're right, it can be considered overkill, and I don't entirely agree with these moves either, I wish/hope Babcock trusts Gardiner and Carrick with more minutes because they've played in relatively sheltered roles so far. Basically I just don't want to end up like the Oilers: desperate for defensive help.

Thanks, for the comment smile
Dec. 2, 2016 at 2:04 p.m.
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I like that we get Jvr but defense wins championships and without muzzin We would be screwed. Our dcore would look very shaky and our offense has been doing good as of late
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