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Deadline Dealin w/ Vancouver and Calgary!

Created by: Zubrowka
Team: 2017-18 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 26, 2018
Published: Jan. 27, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Left Handed
Original Team
Waivers Exempt
Right Handed
Position
Trade Clause
Max Perf. Bonus
Expiry Status
Term Remaining
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$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
It's that time of the year... Calgary trade is a realistic sell. The Vancouver deal is a blockbuster buy. Van gets prospects in Morin, Stolarz and those 1st and 3rd rounders. Weal is a useful 30-40 points on cheap salary for another year. MacDonald is a minutes eater to help replace Tanev, but a much worse player. Lehtera is the cap dump to make it work. Bear in mind, Van can only retain 1 more salary (cap of 3) so they will have to take $$$ back in a Sedins deal with anyone. What say you? Does Vancouver get enough value here to sell and accelerate their rebuild? Are the Flyers giving up too much future value for rentals plus a D with declining stats y/y? Hot takes welcome.
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. 2018 3rd round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Filppula, Valtteri ($2,500,000 retained)
2.
VAN
  1. Lehterä, Jori
  2. MacDonald, Andrew
  3. Morin, Samuel
  4. Stolarz, Anthony
  5. Weal, Jordan
  6. 2018 1st round pick (STL)
  7. 2018 3rd round pick (CGY)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
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2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$75,000,000$68,676,558$1,062,500$4,345,000$6,323,442
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$4,333,333$4,333,333
C
UFA - 5
$4,137,500$4,137,500
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
$3,975,000$3,975,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
C, RW
UFA - 3
$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
$2,350,000$2,350,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$962,500$962,500
C, LW
UFA - 2
$680,833$680,833 (Performance Bonus$207,500$208K)
RW
UFA - 2
$806,558$806,558
LW
UFA - 1
$2,350,000$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$677,500$677,500 (Performance Bonus$25,000$25K)
LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 2
$4,450,000$4,450,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 6
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$2,345,000$2,345,000
RD
UFA - 3
$975,000$975,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 27, 2018 at 11:45 a.m.
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Currently the twins are undecided about waiving their NMC’s but I think they will most likely stay in Vancouver. Also we do not need a goalie prospect as we already have Demko and DiPietro.

The trade is in PHI’s favour as the twins and Tanev could fetch more than cap dumps, a few prospects and what will probably be late picks.
Jan. 27, 2018 at 12:10 p.m.
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Thanks for your take, nuxfan. I had no idea the Twins were leaning on staying in Van. I saw some other Canucks fan post a deadline deal getting them a goalie prospect so thought that was a need for Van. My mistake.

That said, I'm not sure the Twins fetch as much as you think. Those cap hits are going to be hard to move, especially given the Canucks can only retain salary on 1. Few teams can fit them so cap dumps are likely necessary for any trade partner. On the other hand, Tanev should be very pricey given his good reputation and how thin D is across the league.
Jan. 27, 2018 at 1:22 p.m.
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I don’t think Vancouver has a problem taking in cap dumps but they’re also gonna need to get a couple more draft picks or prospects for that. Sure the Sedins cap hit is huge I agree but if u retain one of them, they can get both Sedins for like $5M each which isn’t really too bad and they’re both good help on the PP and PK still
Jan. 27, 2018 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Zubrowka
Thanks for your take, nuxfan. I had no idea the Twins were leaning on staying in Van. I saw some other Canucks fan post a deadline deal getting them a goalie prospect so thought that was a need for Van. My mistake.

That said, I'm not sure the Twins fetch as much as you think. Those cap hits are going to be hard to move, especially given the Canucks can only retain salary on 1. Few teams can fit them so cap dumps are likely necessary for any trade partner. On the other hand, Tanev should be very pricey given his good reputation and how thin D is across the league.


No worries. Also, I care to disagree with your thought process pertaining to the return that Vancouver would get for the twins. Assuming that they get traded at the deadline their cap hits will be a fraction of the 7 million that they were initially. Their cap hits would be calculated by going $7,000,000 / 182 days = 38,461.53846153846 x 42 days = $1,615,384.62. Now without any retention many teams would actually be able to take on their cap hits.
Jan. 27, 2018 at 3:13 p.m.
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Quoting: nuxfan
No worries. Also, I care to disagree with your thought process pertaining to the return that Vancouver would get for the twins. Assuming that they get traded at the deadline their cap hits will be a fraction of the 7 million that they were initially. Their cap hits would be calculated by going $7,000,000 / 182 days = 38,461.53846153846 x 42 days = $1,615,384.62. Now without any retention many teams would actually be able to take on their cap hits.


I appreciate the pro rata breakdown, but on the flip side, there's a lot of potential trade partners so close to the cap that even another $3 mill (after pro rata) for the twins is going to be prohibitive without significant salary coming back the other way. Right now, there are 16 teams with roughly $2.5 mil or less cap space. While you say, "Now without any retention many teams would actually be able to take on their cap hits," it's actually less than half the league and you can narrow that down further to teams that are actually still in contention and interested in paying up to add the Twins. We'll certainly see come the deadline.
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