Deadline Dealin w/ Vancouver and Calgary!

Created by: Zubrowka
Initial Creation Date: Jan 26, 2018
Published: Jan 27, 2018 at 11:20 am
Team: 2017-18 Philadelphia Flyers
Legend
Lefthanded
Original Team
Righthanded
Position
No Move/Trade Clause
Expiry Status
Term Remaining
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Team Explanation
It's that time of the year... Calgary trade is a realistic sell. The Vancouver deal is a blockbuster buy. Van gets prospects in Morin, Stolarz and those 1st and 3rd rounders. Weal is a useful 30-40 points on cheap salary for another year. MacDonald is a minutes eater to help replace Tanev, but a much worse player. Lehtera is the cap dump to make it work. Bear in mind, Van can only retain 1 more salary (cap of 3) so they will have to take $$$ back in a Sedins deal with anyone. What say you? Does Vancouver get enough value here to sell and accelerate their rebuild? Are the Flyers giving up too much future value for rentals plus a D with declining stats y/y? Hot takes welcome.
Trades
PHI
  1. 2018 3rd round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Filppula, Valtteri ($2,500,000 retained)
PHI
  1. Tanev, Christopher
  2. Sedin, Daniel ($3,500,000 retained)
  3. Sedin, Henrik
VAN
  1. Stolarz, Anthony
  2. Morin, Samuel
  3. Weal, Jordan
  4. MacDonald, Andrew
  5. Lehterä, Jori
  6. 2018 1st round pick (STL)
  7. 2018 3rd round pick (CGY)
Buyouts
  • R.J. Umberger: $1,500,000
  • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Valtteri Filppula: $2,500,000 (50%)
  • Radko Gudas: $1,005,000 (30%)
Buried
  • Matt Read: $2,600,000 ($3,625,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2018
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
ARI
PHI
PHI
MTL
2019
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
2020
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$75,000,000$73,819,058$1,062,500$4,345,000$1,180,942
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Konecny, Travis
$894,167
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Couturier, Sean
$4,333,333
C
UFA - 5
Giroux, Claude
$8,275,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
Sedin, Daniel
$3,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Sedin, Henrik
$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Simmonds, Wayne
$3,975,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
Raffl, Michael
$2,350,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Patrick, Nolan
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 3
Voracek, Jakub
$8,250,000
RW
UFA - 7
Leier, Taylor
$806,558
LW
UFA - 1
Laughton, Scott
$962,500
C
UFA - 2
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
$680,833
RW
RFA - 2
Goulbourne, Tyrell
$677,500
LW
UFA - 1
Weise, Dale
$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Provorov, Ivan
$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
Tanev, Christopher
$4,450,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
Elliott, Brian
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
Hägg, Robert
$894,167
LD
RFA - 1
Gostisbehere, Shayne
$4,500,000
LD
UFA - 6
Neuvirth, Michal
$2,500,000
G
UFA - 2
Sanheim, Travis
$863,333
RD
RFA - 2
Gudas, Radko
$2,345,000
RD
UFA - 3
Manning, Brandon
$975,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jan 27, 2018 at 11:45
#1
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 891
Likes: 67
Currently the twins are undecided about waiving their NMC’s but I think they will most likely stay in Vancouver. Also we do not need a goalie prospect as we already have Demko and DiPietro.

The trade is in PHI’s favour as the twins and Tanev could fetch more than cap dumps, a few prospects and what will probably be late picks.
Jan 27, 2018 at 12:10
#2
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 248
Likes: 85
Thanks for your take, nuxfan. I had no idea the Twins were leaning on staying in Van. I saw some other Canucks fan post a deadline deal getting them a goalie prospect so thought that was a need for Van. My mistake.

That said, I'm not sure the Twins fetch as much as you think. Those cap hits are going to be hard to move, especially given the Canucks can only retain salary on 1. Few teams can fit them so cap dumps are likely necessary for any trade partner. On the other hand, Tanev should be very pricey given his good reputation and how thin D is across the league.
Jan 27, 2018 at 1:22
#3
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 196
Likes: 4
I don’t think Vancouver has a problem taking in cap dumps but they’re also gonna need to get a couple more draft picks or prospects for that. Sure the Sedins cap hit is huge I agree but if u retain one of them, they can get both Sedins for like $5M each which isn’t really too bad and they’re both good help on the PP and PK still
Jan 27, 2018 at 1:48
#4
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 891
Likes: 67
Quoting: Zubrowka
Thanks for your take, nuxfan. I had no idea the Twins were leaning on staying in Van. I saw some other Canucks fan post a deadline deal getting them a goalie prospect so thought that was a need for Van. My mistake.

That said, I'm not sure the Twins fetch as much as you think. Those cap hits are going to be hard to move, especially given the Canucks can only retain salary on 1. Few teams can fit them so cap dumps are likely necessary for any trade partner. On the other hand, Tanev should be very pricey given his good reputation and how thin D is across the league.


No worries. Also, I care to disagree with your thought process pertaining to the return that Vancouver would get for the twins. Assuming that they get traded at the deadline their cap hits will be a fraction of the 7 million that they were initially. Their cap hits would be calculated by going $7,000,000 / 182 days = 38,461.53846153846 x 42 days = $1,615,384.62. Now without any retention many teams would actually be able to take on their cap hits.
Jan 27, 2018 at 3:13
#5
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 248
Likes: 85
Quoting: nuxfan
No worries. Also, I care to disagree with your thought process pertaining to the return that Vancouver would get for the twins. Assuming that they get traded at the deadline their cap hits will be a fraction of the 7 million that they were initially. Their cap hits would be calculated by going $7,000,000 / 182 days = 38,461.53846153846 x 42 days = $1,615,384.62. Now without any retention many teams would actually be able to take on their cap hits.


I appreciate the pro rata breakdown, but on the flip side, there's a lot of potential trade partners so close to the cap that even another $3 mill (after pro rata) for the twins is going to be prohibitive without significant salary coming back the other way. Right now, there are 16 teams with roughly $2.5 mil or less cap space. While you say, "Now without any retention many teams would actually be able to take on their cap hits," it's actually less than half the league and you can narrow that down further to teams that are actually still in contention and interested in paying up to add the Twins. We'll certainly see come the deadline.
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