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The habs draft well?? REALLY??

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Team: 2017-18 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 18, 2018
Published: Apr. 18, 2018
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
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UFA - 5
Description
Only included the prospects drafted in the first four rounds since 2012 (under Bergevin)
Didn't include the prospects and young guys we traded away, if they are to be good elsewhere then the scouting group didn't do a good job of nailing the value of the player.

Simply can't say these draft picks have been good when you look at the amount.
Only left wingers, never been able to land good Centers or D-men.

5 years of drafting FAILURES.
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Poehling, Ryan
3$950,000
Brook, Josh
3$950,000
Walford, Scott
3$950,000
Ikonen, Joni
3$950,000
Bitten, William
3$950,000
Vejdemo, Lukas
3$950,000
Evans, Jake
3$950,000
Crisp, Connor
3$950,000
Thrower, Dalton
3$950,000
Vail, Brady
3$950,000
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
28$75,000,000$29,891,387$0$1,007,500$45,108,613
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$4,900,000$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
Evans, Jake
$950,000$950,000
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW, C
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Poehling, Ryan
$950,000$950,000
Ikonen, Joni
$950,000$950,000
$839,166$839,166
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$668,333$668,333 (Performance Bonus$10,000$10K)
C
UFA - 2
$726,667$726,667
RW
UFA - 3
$725,000$725,000
LW
UFA - 1
Vejdemo, Lukas
$950,000$950,000
$633,333$633,333
C
UFA - 1
Bitten, William
$950,000$950,000
Vail, Brady
$950,000$950,000
$720,000$720,000
LW
RFA - 3
Crisp, Connor
$950,000$950,000
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Brook, Josh
$950,000$950,000
$682,222$682,222 (Performance Bonus$55,000$55K)
G
UFA - 3
Walford, Scott
$950,000$950,000
$863,333$863,333
RD
UFA - 3
$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
$720,000$720,000
LD
RFA - 3
$653,333$653,333 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
RD
UFA - 2
$714,167$714,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
UFA - 1
$717,500$717,500 (Performance Bonus$157,500$158K)
D
UFA - 1
Thrower, Dalton
$950,000$950,000
$650,000$650,000
LD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
$1,166,667$1,166,667
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 9
$6,500,000$6,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LW
UFA - 2
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 5
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 2
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$912,500$912,500
C
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$725,000$725,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
C, RW
UFA - 1

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Apr. 18, 2018 at 9:39 p.m.
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Is it a drafting issue or a development issue? Their AHL team has bounced around a lot and I don't recall it being very good in recent years. Drafting's only about half the puzzle: Mete, Evans, Juulsen, Lindgren, Hudon, and Poehling look like legit prospects. Galch is a legitimate NHLer.
Apr. 18, 2018 at 9:43 p.m.
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here is a free article that might change your mind. cheers
https://recrutes.ca/trevor-timmins-drafting-record-top-class/
https://recrutes.ca/habs-drafting-since-2012-good-average-barren/
considering when and where the habs draft, they've done pretty good. a lot of times its the gm whose say goes, especially in the first round. under bergevin in the first round only mccarron is a borderline bust, but even he is only 22, and can still prove himself as players of a larger frame like him take longer to develop (see brian boyle). scherbak took his time, and looks like a top 6. juulsen's a pure stud. peohling isn't nhl ready yet, but he will be a really good 2c. chucky is an elite winger, and sergachev is still developing defensively, but offensively is amazing.
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Apr. 18, 2018 at 9:44 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Is it a drafting issue or a development issue? Their AHL team has bounced around a lot and I don't recall it being very good in recent years. Drafting's only about half the puzzle: Mete, Evans, Juulsen, Lindgren, Hudon, and Poehling look like legit prospects. Galch is a legitimate NHLer.


it is an ahl issue. the ahl coach should have been fired years ago. thank god they let him go now
Apr. 18, 2018 at 10:04 p.m.
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Here we go again, let's look at the quality of picks we had in that timeslot:

2012:
1- Galchenyuk (#3) : He is the 2nd best player in 2012 draft year, surpassed only by Filip Forsberg (10 other teams passed on him). We were in dire need of a center, and Forsberg was definitely not that. Galchenyuk had a good chance at being an NHL center, but we severely misused him, and that's on our terrible development system. Still, best center at the draft, and better than pick #1 and #2. Draft Win.
2- Collberg (#33): 2nd round. Didn't pan out. Draft Loss? That year, in the 2nd round, only 3 out of 30 teams had a player with mild success (bottom line caliber, all of them). Terrible quality players.
3- Thrower (#51): 2nd round. Same story as above.
4- Bozon (#64): 3rd round. Actually in this round, there were 5 success stories: Vesey, Lindell, Gostisbehere, Parayko, Andersen. So we had a 16% chance of success, and failed.
5- Hudon (#122): 5th round. 3 success stories in the rest of this draft: Slavin (picked #120, before Hudon), Hellebuyck, Connor Brown. The rest all performed WAY worse than Hudon. For a 0.83% chance, that's miraculous.

2013:
6- McCarron (#25): 1st round. We went over why he was chosen already. Fun fact! The centers chosen above him were Gauthier (#21) and Lazar (#17). Beyond that is top-15 territory. So we obviously couldn't choose those options, but what about the next set of centers? Who was the next best center in that draft? Jake Guentzel (#77, 3rd rnd), Andrew Copp (#104, 4th rnd). That's it, nobody else. So the Habs had a 0.54% chance of picking a successful center, and the league as a whole agreed that Guentzel and Copp were not considered top caliber at the time, hence why they were chosen so low. Verdict: Bust, but I blame the fanbase @75%
7- JDLR (#34): 2nd round. Bust? Look again, he's the second best player in the 2nd round. Guess who's the best player in the second round? ... Lehkonen. Bad options. The entire league failed in that round.
8- Fucale (#36): 2nd round. Bust. This one, no excuses. He had all the pedigrees, but sometimes it all fails. Bust.
9- Lehkonen (#55): 2nd round. As I stated earlier, he's by FAR the best player in that second round. Forward, Defense, and Goaltending positions combined. Bad options.
10- Crisp (#71): 3rd round. Draft fail, no excuses. 8 other decent options were available. We had a 26% chance of success.
11- Andrighetto (#86): 3rd round. Success at 0.43pts/g. So we performed at 50% success rate in the third round, when we only had a 26% chance. Draft WIN.
12- Reway (#116): He was shaping up to be a success, but had serious heart problems. Can you blame Timmins? Anyway, from the moment we drafted him, no other players had NHL success, ever.

2014:
13- Scherbak (#26): 1st round. Too soon to tell if he'll succeed, but looks like it to me. The only forward drafted after him in the next two rounds worthwhile is Kempe (#29) and Dvorak (#58).
14- Lernout (#73): 3rd round. Bust. But the only other player who succeeded in that round was Point (#79). 3.33% chance of success.
15- Koberstein (#125): 5th round. Draft fail. Remember, these picks don't pan out 92% of the time (stats back me up)
16- Audette (#147): 5th round. Probably won't pan out, same as above. BUT fun fact, Anders Bjork was picked immediately before him. Good job, Bruins. Then again, every team passed over him at least 4 times.
17- Hawkey (#177): 6th round. Too soon to tell (NCAA) -- Potential win?
18- Evans (#207): 7th round. Too soon to tell (NCAA) -- Potential win?

I won't go further.

Do your damn research before slamming your own team.
Apr. 18, 2018 at 10:06 p.m.
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you are just not a Hockey fan , you follow NHL but dont know **** about development on any ******* level .

Jake Evans Alone was a 7th round pick who was Leading Scorer , Top Center , Captain of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish one of the top 2 teams in the NCAA who went all the way to the NCAA Finals losing in a bitter 2-1 loss.
if you dont see value there , the problem is you
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