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MTL trade, fair/who adds?

Created by: J2W
Team: 2018-19 Los Angeles Kings
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 2, 2018
Published: Jul. 2, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Left Handed
Original Team
Waivers Exempt
Right Handed
Position
Trade Clause
Max Perf. Bonus
Expiry Status
Term Remaining
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Trades
LAK
  1. Alzner, Karl
  2. Byron, Paul
Additional Details:
LA gets a cheap 20 goal LW, who likely slots in on the 2nd line. Also get a slightly cheaper bad contract taking Alzner for Phaneuf. Phaneuf puts up more points, Alzner had better possesion numbers despite fewer OZ starts.
MTL
  1. Phaneuf, Dion
  2. Thompson, Nate
Additional Details:
MTL gets out of a bad contract 1 year sooner, Alzner 4 left Phaneuf 3. at the cost of a bit of cap space.
Buyouts
Recapture Fees
Termination Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$79,500,000$69,269,281$0$1,700,000$10,230,719
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$3,750,000$3,750,000
LW
UFA - 3
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
$1,166,667$1,166,667
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$2,636,364$2,636,364
RW, C
UFA - 4
$4,600,000$4,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$894,167$894,167
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$800,000$800,000
LW
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 1
$2,900,000$2,900,000
G
UFA - 5
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
$1,025,000$1,025,000
G
UFA - 1
$1,893,750$1,893,750
LD
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 2
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4

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Jul. 2, 2018 at 8:24 p.m.
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Who adds what?
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With MTL building slowly through the draft, being done sooner with the ghosts of free agency past should be appealing.

I doubt they're particularly looking to move Byron, and I think they're probably more interested in adding picks coming back than in getting another big salary for two years, that doesn't help them reubild at all.

Alzner for Phaneuf? Okay... you win on possession and cap hit. They win on points, nastiness, and term. If the total money is similar, they shrug it off.... except that Alzner because their de-facto top pair guy when Weber got hurt and his partner put up a career year, while Phaneuf's offense might not help anybody's offense, so right there, they want some sort of a pick to get that done.

Trading Byron? Okay. Throw in some picks.

Accepting Nate Thompson? Okay. Throw in some picks.

Their divisional rivals in Toronto just signed John Tavares and they have signed nobody. Team is not that excited about adding points or salaries at all. They're going to draft in the lottery either way, but adding a few more picks could brighten their future.
Jul. 2, 2018 at 8:28 p.m.
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I think this is a fair trade for both sides
Jul. 2, 2018 at 8:34 p.m.
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Kings need Nate Thompson to center the 4th line. Change Thompson to Clifford and I could see it working.
Jul. 2, 2018 at 9:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
With MTL building slowly through the draft, being done sooner with the ghosts of free agency past should be appealing.

I doubt they're particularly looking to move Byron, and I think they're probably more interested in adding picks coming back than in getting another big salary for two years, that doesn't help them reubild at all.

Alzner for Phaneuf? Okay... you win on possession and cap hit. They win on points, nastiness, and term. If the total money is similar, they shrug it off.... except that Alzner because their de-facto top pair guy when Weber got hurt and his partner put up a career year, while Phaneuf's offense might not help anybody's offense, so right there, they want some sort of a pick to get that done.

Trading Byron? Okay. Throw in some picks.

Accepting Nate Thompson? Okay. Throw in some picks.

Their divisional rivals in Toronto just signed John Tavares and they have signed nobody. Team is not that excited about adding points or salaries at all. They're going to draft in the lottery either way, but adding a few more picks could brighten their future.


Thompson was also more to give LA a bit more cap relief, and I figured Phaneuf for Alzner was in MTL's favour so Byron was added to help offset that. But if Phaneuf for Alzner is relatively fair what kind of picks would you add to even the trade out?
Jul. 2, 2018 at 10:08 p.m.
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Who adds what?
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Thompson was also more to give LA a bit more cap relief, and I figured Phaneuf for Alzner was in MTL's favour so Byron was added to help offset that. But if Phaneuf for Alzner is relatively fair what kind of picks would you add to even the trade out?


As a Caps fans I always saw Alzner as the guy who stayed back and made Carlson's offense possible. This year Orpik played that role for half the year, then Djoos for a bit, then Kempny.... but it's still a role that takes work, and in spite of MTL's fans' low opinions of him, I think Alzner and Petry were one of the few things that really clicked for the Habs last year.

Nate Thompson is 33 and has broken ten goals three times? But not lately. Paul Byron is 29, has the same cap hit, and has broken twenty goals in both the last two years and had eleven the year before that?

So Thompson is just kind of thrown in there.

My guess is that they don't want to open up that level of yard sale just yet, but at the trade deadline, it could happen for a couple of 2nds?
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