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No cap for Karlsson

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Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 10, 2018
Published: Jul. 10, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Left Handed
Original Team
Waivers Exempt
Right Handed
Position
Trade Clause
Max Perf. Bonus
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Term Remaining
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$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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Don't know why/how Tampa would want to dismantle their team just to sign Karlsson. 10 players to sign with 16m including the very good Braydon Point.
And all those NTC/NMCs to deal with.
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
13$83,000,000$66,530,832$0$1,032,500$16,469,168
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,300,000$5,300,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
UFA - 8
$4,450,000$4,450,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 4
$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, C, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
$1,150,000$1,150,000
G
UFA - 1
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 10, 2018 at 2:48 p.m.
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It's doable but not easily. A Callahan buyout/trade next year would save at least 3.133M and Miller will be traded at the draft before his limited NTC kicks in which is another 5.25M, so that moves the space to about $24.852M with your ceiling. Joseph/Volkov/Raddysh will be ready at RW by then, and will combine for less than $2M together. AT LW you will have Katchouk by then and that's under 1M. So that's now about $21.8M to work with, with 14 players. Koekkoek or Masin as the third pairing LD will be at or below 1M, so that's $20.8M with 15 players. Cernak will probably be ready as the third pairing RD at under 1M by then as well, so that's now $19.8M with 16 players. I think they may be patient with Foote and re-sign Stralman as well, so that's probably at least 4.5M which would put it at $15.3M with 17 players. Put Karlsson at 10M and that brings it down to $5.3M with 18 players signed. Point on the Kucherov bridge of 4.8M brings it down to only $0.5M with 19 players signed. If they dump the full Callahan contract that adds another 2.667M and I left about 1M of fluff in there, so that brings the space up to $4.167M for the remaining 4C, 4LW, and 7D. I may have made a mistake somewhere in there, but I think the math is close enough. It would no doubt require the cap to take some jumps, and the drafting and ELCs would have to keep on working out. It will be interesting no matter what happens.
Jul. 10, 2018 at 2:53 p.m.
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Crazy to bank everything on EK and his gimpy foot. Considering ntcs, JTM and Gourde are the only tradables, which is not quite enough cap wise. That's after losing Stal, Girardi and Coburn. Paying for Cally dump. Assuming Kuch and Point also get ntc! Especially if they sell the good ELCs in the farm system. Stevie Y needs a couple more miracles, TJ and Killorn to waive ntc. Apparently it's all about the ntc!!! Lol
Jul. 10, 2018 at 2:55 p.m.
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Edited Jul. 10, 2018 at 3:01 p.m.
Yeah it'll be very hard. Starting from there, let's assume Callahan and Johnson are both out of the picture (likely traded in the coming months or before the next draft). It gives them 27,25M$ to work with and 12 players to sign.

Let's assume Karlsson is in the line-up (via trade, which would just include prospects and picks), my bet is he'll get 9,5M$ AAV on a 8 year contract (the math says that he'll be getting 48 138 400$ in total cash after tax with that deal in Tampa, compared to 46 041 200$ in total cash after tax for an 8 year deal at 11,75M$ AAV in California and a bit less in Toronto). That brings the cap space down to 17,75M$.

Then, you have Point and Gourde to resign. I'm pretty confident in saying that Yzerman will take the same approach with Point than with Kucherov, so a 3 year "show me" bridge deal at around 4,5-4,75M$ AAV. That brings the cap space down to 13M$. If Gourde keeps the same level of play than last season, my guess is he'll have the same type of deal Alex Killorn got from the Bolts, which is a 6% of the cap hit on a 5 or 6 year deal, so basically 4,9M$ AAV for 5-6 years (considering the cap is at 83M$ next season). That brings the cap space down to 8,1M$ with 9 players left to sign...

So now what? You're missing 2 D-men (#5-6), a 3rd line winger, a complete 4th line and 3 depth players (one D-man and 2 depth F or 13th and 14th forward). That's the tricky part. You'll likely have hurt your youth to acquire Karlsson (missing Foote, Raddysh and maybe more), but you still have the likes of Katchouk, Masin and Mitchells that could step up...but they'll be in big trouble, that's for sure. I think if they go the Karlsson route, Killorn will need to be move next summer (in 2019).

One more thing, in ALL THOSE TRADES mentionned, in no way shape or form can they take back any kind of salary, unless it's a low paid fourth liner with little term left on his contract.
Jul. 10, 2018 at 2:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Kuch813
It's doable but not easily. A Callahan buyout/trade next year would save at least 3.133M and Miller will be traded at the draft before his limited NTC kicks in which is another 5.25M, so that moves the space to about $24.852M with your ceiling. Joseph/Volkov/Raddysh will be ready at RW by then, and will combine for less than $2M together. AT LW you will have Katchouk by then and that's under 1M. So that's now about $21.8M to work with, with 14 players. Koekkoek or Masin as the third pairing LD will be at or below 1M, so that's $20.8M with 15 players. Cernak will probably be ready as the third pairing RD at under 1M by then as well, so that's now $19.8M with 16 players. I think they may be patient with Foote and re-sign Stralman as well, so that's probably at least 4.5M which would put it at $15.3M with 17 players. Put Karlsson at 10M and that brings it down to $5.3M with 18 players signed. Point on the Kucherov bridge of 4.8M brings it down to only $0.5M with 19 players signed. If they dump the full Callahan contract that adds another 2.667M and I left about 1M of fluff in there, so that brings the space up to $4.167M for the remaining 4C, 4LW, and 7D. I may have made a mistake somewhere in there, but I think the math is close enough. It would no doubt require the cap to take some jumps, and the drafting and ELCs would have to keep on working out. It will be interesting no matter what happens.


Most of those beautiful, cheap ELCs will be gone for EK, Cally and 3rd team for taking Ryan.
Jul. 10, 2018 at 2:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Kuch813
It's doable but not easily. A Callahan buyout/trade next year would save at least 3.133M and Miller will be traded at the draft before his limited NTC kicks in which is another 5.25M, so that moves the space to about $24.852M with your ceiling. Joseph/Volkov/Raddysh will be ready at RW by then, and will combine for less than $2M together. AT LW you will have Katchouk by then and that's under 1M. So that's now about $21.8M to work with, with 14 players. Koekkoek or Masin as the third pairing LD will be at or below 1M, so that's $20.8M with 15 players. Cernak will probably be ready as the third pairing RD at under 1M by then as well, so that's now $19.8M with 16 players. I think they may be patient with Foote and re-sign Stralman as well, so that's probably at least 4.5M which would put it at $15.3M with 17 players. Put Karlsson at 10M and that brings it down to $5.3M with 18 players signed. Point on the Kucherov bridge of 4.8M brings it down to only $0.5M with 19 players signed. If they dump the full Callahan contract that adds another 2.667M and I left about 1M of fluff in there, so that brings the space up to $4.167M for the remaining 4C, 4LW, and 7D. I may have made a mistake somewhere in there, but I think the math is close enough. It would no doubt require the cap to take some jumps, and the drafting and ELCs would have to keep on working out. It will be interesting no matter what happens.


You're forgetting that some of the youth will leave with the Karlsson trade...and it might be 2 or 3 if they don't include a young roster player...Foote and Raddysh will FOR SURE be targeted, at the very least
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