But the thing is, he keeps acquiring players that aren't a good fit there. I mean, everyone does that, but Stan Bowman does it a LOT. He gave up Danault and a 2nd for Fleischmann and Weise, and they weren't good fits there. Ladd wasn't a good fit there and they gave up a LOT for him. And he traded away Stephen Johns who has been playing some pretty good hockey, and Patrick Sharp, who until this year, had been a pretty good player even compared to other NHL players.
Also, i usually think about stuff as if there's no salary cap, but there is, so ... look at those horrible contracts to Kane and Toews. Maybe they did that Johns, Sharp - Daley, Garbutt trade to get rid of some salary (not sure what the salaries are for those players), but he was the one who signed Toews and Kane to those huge contracts. And look how Daley played there. Another guy who wasn't a good fit for them. Then they traded Garbutt for Sekac, who they lost on waivers, and then they traded Daley for Scuderi and Scuderi for Ehrhoff. They don't have any of what they got in that deal anymore.
Also not a big fan of the Sam Carrick move at the deadline as i think he has potential.
He gave up a lot for Johnny Oduya, who i really think might be a bit overrated. I mean, he's a good passer, but i see him as a good 3rd pairing guy who plays a good game but isn't really a top 4 guy in my opinion. He gave up Raantta for not much too.
He traded away Teravainen for picks as well, which i don't think helped them.
So overall, i think we'll have to wait 5 years or so, and i have a feeling that Chicago will be horrible in 5 years, and maybe for the next 6-7-8 years after that. That's just me though.
Man, you're crazy. The Hawks team management is the reason they've been so successful, and this is coming from a Blues fan. Your complaints above are trivial. Bowman understands that to win, you build a core and you don't stay attached to guys outside of the core. Yeah, he signed Kane and Toews for too much, but it was to ensure he keeps his core together for this cup window. So what if they're horrible in 5 years??? It's a cyclical league, and when you have a good talent core and cup aspirations every year, you make the moves like he did for rentals and role players. Sure, they might not always pay off, but at the end of the day, 3 cups in 6 years and a chance now for 4 in 8 is exactly what defines a great GM
. As for the guys that he has moved out, yeah there has been a lot of talent leaving. He had to lose Teravainen to be able to shed Bickell's contract. He had to move Sharp due to cap implications. Raanta was pushed out by Darling, big deal if they lost a backup goalie without a massive return. Couldn't afford Saad or Leddy either. The fact that they can lose all this talent and remain contenders is a testament to the quality of the GM (and coach). You are just trolling around hoping to tick someone off. "In my opinion, Crosby is a 3rd liner". You need to learn how to digest information and form a defensible stance rather than just spew uneducated and unfactual opinions.
When did i say Crosby is a 3rd liner?
Anyway, the thing is, he traded away Johns as well as Sharp, not just Sharp. And he over and over again makes bad trades. Dale Tallon kind of built the stanley cup winning team, and then Stan Bowman destroyed it. So if he wasn't the GM they might have had 4 or 5 in 6 years.
Do you think Ken Holland is a good GM? Because if you don't, i could say to you, "They've won 4 stanley cups and they keep making the playoffs, and they'll eventually miss the playoffs of course, like they did this year." He's been the GM in Detroit for a while, so if you think Ken Holland is a bad GM, then what's wrong with me thinking Stan Bowman is a bad GM? Detroit stayed good for a while, and i'm guessing that Chicago could be the next Arizona or something. Probably more like the next Toronto, but not as bad as the Maple Leafs have been. I feel like they'll be bad for a while, and i think the Red Wings could be good again in the next few years.
Also, Stan Bowman is lucky his team is playing as a team. In my opinion, teamwork is the most important thing in hockey. Actually, i'd say hockey is more of a team sport than any other sport, but that's just my opinion. That's the main reason i love hockey so much. So he's not really a big part of why the Hawks are so good in my opinion. They actually don't have the best roster in my opinion. Now that may sound ridiculous, but here's why:
A lot of people think that to have a good roster is to have a good top 2/3/4 d-men, and a good top 6 forward group. However, after that, they really fall off. I mean, they have Keith, Seabrook, Kane, Toews, Panarin, etc, but then they are stuck with Kruger, Kero, Tootoo, etc on the bottom 6 and they don't have the best defence in my opinion. I mean, they have Keith and Seabrook, and they have TVR, and Hjalmarsson, but Campbell's near the end of his career and Oduya's overrated in my opinion.
Also, their goaltending is okay, but i'd say they have two guys that are better than the average NHL backup, but neither of them i would call NHL main starting goalie level goalies.
So they have a good coach, and the team is playing as a team, but Stan Bowman seems to be destroying the team's future, which could make them horrible in a few years, and for years after that. Sorry Blackhawks fans, but i think that could happen.