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(MTL / EDM) - Conditional 4th for Montoya

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Jan 4 at 11:05 PM
#1
A trade between Montreal Canadiens and Edmonton Oilers has been confirmed.
Montreal Canadiens
2018 conditional 5th round pick
Edmonton Oilers
Jan 4 at 11:12 PM
#2
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Montreal - Gets a conditional 4th for a guy who would probably be our #3 Goalie when he came back (Probably placed on waivers). We got an asset for somebody who was on the IR for the last 3 months with a Concussion,
Edmonton - Gets a decent enough backup to actually be able to win games while in net, Gives Talbot some much needed rest come playoffs (if they make it)

Im going to say Montreal wins, but its a win-win for both teams

Something I forgot, If Edmonton doesnt make the playoffs, its a complete waste for Edmonton
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Jan 4 at 11:23 PM
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What is the condition? Anyone know yet?

Frankly even if it was for free, Im ok with it. This is a win / win situation no matter which way you look at it. Montoya is cheap and when healthy a decent backup.
Jan 4 at 11:24 PM
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I don't think it's going to make a significant difference for Edmonton, but they needed another viable option in net. Without knowing the condition, it's still a good trade for Montreal. Niemi has done well enough and Lindgren is always ready to be called upon. As KSI said, it's basically something for nothing as the oilers could have claimed whichever goaltender we did send down.
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Jan 4 at 11:33 PM
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It may be to late for the Oilers, ten points of the playoffs and in 13th place in the Conference. But as we seen, having a good back up is so necessary in the NHL. Imagine if the Oilers had collected just two more wins with a good backup when Talbot was injured. Maybe just 6 points out of the playoffs, and the team wouldn't be playing so discouraged as they are now.
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Jan 4 at 11:47 PM
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Condition is- If Montoya plays 7 more regular season games, the pick is a 2018 4th. If he does not play 7 more, its a 2018 5th.
Jan 5 at 12:09 AM
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Too little, too late for Edmonton. If they were in the playoff hunt, this would be a solid addition however. I feel like Montreal could have squeezed a little more out of other teams.
Jan 5 at 1:56 AM
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Quoting: tadhockey
Too little, too late for Edmonton. If they were in the playoff hunt, this would be a solid addition however. I feel like Montreal could have squeezed a little more out of other teams.


For a goalie who is coming off a 3 month Concussion? with his stats? and other teams know when be gets back either Niemi or MONTOYA are going on waivers? I don't think so
Jan 5 at 7:18 AM
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Oilers need a backup, for cheap. We got a pick. Overall everyone's happy.
Jan 5 at 9:18 AM
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Oilers passed on Subban and Pickard, didn't try to trade for either of Läck or Pickard after passing waivers and they actually go and spend assets on Al effing Montoya, who has had a terrible year so far.

For once, I'll congratulate MB on a good trade. The Habs also have solid goalie depth so dealing Montoya doesn't hurt them at all.
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Jan 5 at 10:11 AM
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Makes sense for both teams, but I have to say Montreal wins.
Jan 5 at 10:48 AM
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It's positive sum; both teams win.
Jan 5 at 11:25 AM
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Quoting: Jarvis
Condition is- If Montoya plays 7 more regular season games, the pick is a 2018 4th. If he does not play 7 more, its a 2018 5th.


does it include playoffs?
Jan 5 at 12:26 PM
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Quoting: Jarvis
Condition is- If Montoya plays 7 more regular season games, the pick is a 2018 4th. If he does not play 7 more, its a 2018 5th.


Quoting: rangersandislesfan
does it include playoffs?


neutral

R.E.A.D.R.A.I.F
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Jan 5 at 12:40 PM
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This was a nothing for nothing trade.
Jan 5 at 12:43 PM
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Quoting: Go_Bruins
This was a nothing for nothing trade.


Gallagher was a 5th round pick, and Mete was a 4th rd pick. I’d trade a Montoya any day if it gives me a chance to draft similar guys.
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Jan 5 at 2:17 PM
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
Gallagher was a 5th round pick, and Mete was a 4th rd pick. I’d trade a Montoya any day if it gives me a chance to draft similar guys.


Cam Barker was a 3rd overall pick.
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Jan 5 at 2:44 PM
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This trade has gotten way too much analysis for being so small. Edmonton needed a backup, Montreal had an extra one. Pretty simple
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Jan 5 at 4:06 PM
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Quoting: krakowitz
This trade has gotten way too much analysis for being so small. Edmonton needed a backup, Montreal had an extra one. Pretty simple


Edmonton needed a Backup, there were 3 or 4 goalies put through waivers in the last month that are better than Montoya. Montoya is coming off a 3 month concussion and when he came back, he would've went on waivers. It's a nothing trade but Chiarelli burned an asset when he didn't have to and Bergevin got an asset when he shouldn't of been able to
Jan 6 at 8:37 PM
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KSIxSKULLS
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Quoting: Missouri
Looks good for both teams, but now who does Montreal have for a backup? Is Fucale ready yet??


When was the last time you watched hockey? Niemi/Lindgren/Mcniven All ahead of Fucale in the depth charts
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Jan 7 at 3:15 PM
#21
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Boring trade
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Jan 8 at 8:48 PM
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The thing is when montoya got back the habs would have to send one to the minors with a chance they would gotten waived so at least they got something for montoya

but he was better than neimi
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Jan 9 at 9:43 AM
#23
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Quoting: habs_fan123
The thing is when montoya got back the habs would have to send one to the minors with a chance they would gotten waived so at least they got something for montoya

but he was better than neimi


Not really, Niemi IMO is a step higher than MONTOYA but they are both trash
Jan 26 at 8:08 PM
#24
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He has played 3 games so far. 4 more to go and Habs get a 4th round. Go Monty Go!
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Jan 29 at 12:44 PM
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Quoting: Habs4ever
He has played 3 games so far. 4 more to go and Habs get a 4th round. Go Monty Go!


I think they'll put him on waivers before playing him in that 7th game. LOL

The season is over for them. No point in playing him more than 2 extra games.
 
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