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Florida Trade

Created by: BrianMacLeonsis
Team: 2017-18 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 18, 2018
Published: Jan. 18, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
2.
WSH
  1. Vanek, Thomas ($1,000,000 retained)
VAN
  1. Connolly, Brett
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (WSH)
3.
WSH
  1. Brodin, Jonas
  2. 2018 3rd round pick (BUF)
MIN
  1. Malenstyn, Beck
  2. Orpik, Brooks
  3. Stephenson, Chandler
  4. 2019 3rd round pick (WSH)
  5. 2020 1st round pick (WSH)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$75,000,000$66,628,440$4,978$582,500$8,371,560
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$9,538,462$9,538,462
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$6,700,000$6,700,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW
UFA - 2
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
UFA - 8
$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 5
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C
UFA - 1
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 8
$660,000$660,000
RW
UFA - 1
$1,750,000$1,750,000
C
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$1,275,000$1,275,000
LD
UFA - 6
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$6,100,000$6,100,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$4,166,667$4,166,667
LD
UFA - 4
$3,966,667$3,966,667
RD
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
LD
UFA - 2
$703,333$703,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
UFA - 1
$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 18, 2018 at 4:05 a.m.
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Tietaja
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Florida trade yes if wsh get bjugstad
Jan. 18, 2018 at 9:37 a.m.
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Full marks on Trochek, a veteran Trotz would use in the playoffs, over Burakovsky and a pick who each might not make a difference in the Ovechkin era. They are fair value for Trocheck, even though he's got 17 goals in the firrst 44 games of this year: https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/t/trochvi01.html

That's a pace for 32. Most players don't get traded in the middle of great seasons, but in two years, he'll score 20 and Burakovsky will score 30, and Florida will debut that first pick, so they probably take the long view and pull the trigger on a heavy offer like that.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/b/brodijo01.html
Brodin plays 22 minutes, mostly in the defensive zone, and does pretty well. Solid upgrade to the top four, and at 24 years old, on a good contract, he'd be a great long term addition. Hate to part with Stephenson when he's playing well, as a rookie, all around the middle six. Probably pull back him or the first. Which might mean Minn says no, in which case, the Caps can probably give less than that, keep Orpik, and get another team to retain partial salary on one of Edler, Hjalmarsson, or Brodin.

Or, if the Caps are looking for a talented, young, left handed defenseman with more playoff experience than Djoos, they should really talk to McPhee about Shea Theodore, who has been a healthy scratch over a dozen times this year, but still has 12 points: https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/t/theodsh01.html or just whichever of Vegas' seven NHL experienced lhd are available.

Chorney is left handed, as are Ness and Johanson who plays top pair n Hershey, so I think Hobbs and Lewington are vying for fourth on the Caps' RHD depth chart. They're not in a
position to move either without bringing in a right handed reinforcement. Doesn't have to be much. Roman Polak 50% retained for a 6th?
Jan. 18, 2018 at 9:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Eli
Full marks on Trochek, a veteran Trotz would use in the playoffs, over Burakovsky and a pick who each might not make a difference in the Ovechkin era. They are fair value for Trocheck, even though he's got 17 goals in the firrst 44 games of this year: https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/t/trochvi01.html

That's a pace for 32. Most players don't get traded in the middle of great seasons, but in two years, he'll score 20 and Burakovsky will score 30, and Florida will debut that first pick, so they probably take the long view and pull the trigger on a heavy offer like that.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/b/brodijo01.html
Brodin plays 22 minutes, mostly in the defensive zone, and does pretty well. Solid upgrade to the top four, and at 24 years old, on a good contract, he'd be a great long term addition. Hate to part with Stephenson when he's playing well, as a rookie, all around the middle six. Probably pull back him or the first. Which might mean Minn says no, in which case, the Caps can probably give less than that, keep Orpik, and get another team to retain partial salary on one of Edler, Hjalmarsson, or Brodin.

Or, if the Caps are looking for a talented, young, left handed defenseman with more playoff experience than Djoos, they should really talk to McPhee about Shea Theodore, who has been a healthy scratch over a dozen times this year, but still has 12 points: https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/t/theodsh01.html or just whichever of Vegas' seven NHL experienced lhd are available.

Chorney is left handed, as are Ness and Johanson who plays top pair n Hershey, so I think Hobbs and Lewington are vying for fourth on the Caps' RHD depth chart. They're not in a
position to move either without bringing in a right handed reinforcement. Doesn't have to be much. Roman Polak 50% retained for a 6th?


You don't follow hockey much if you think Shea Theodore has been a healthy scratch. He was in the AHL to start the year because McPhee took too many defenseman and Theodore isn't waivers eligible...

Net Net, you managed to make the current team AND the future state of the Caps worse with these trades. Impressive!
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Jan. 18, 2018 at 9:46 a.m.
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Connolly is almost as good as Vanek this year, and ten years younger. There's a chance Washington makes a straight up exchange, just because Vanek has better postseason numbers, but there's just as much chance they hang on to Connolly and hope he improves. They don't actually need to pay extra for salary retention in this scenario, and considering how few draft picks you've left them with, they don't.
Jan. 18, 2018 at 9:47 a.m.
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You don't follow hockey much if you think Shea Theodore has been a healthy scratch. He was in the AHL to start the year because McPhee took too many defenseman and Theodore isn't waivers eligible...

Net Net, you managed to make the current team AND the future state of the Caps worse with these trades. Impressive!


You don't follow hockey much if you think I don't follow hockey much. wink
Jan. 18, 2018 at 11:08 a.m.
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But I'll take the compliment. I can appreciate the distinction. So, Theodore has been playing every night since they demoted Garrison? Neat.

Is Garrison, with salary retention, an upgrade over Chorney? Is Sbisa or Stoner? Is Vegas ever going to deal their extra team's worth of left handed defensemen, or does McPhee have some crazy plan to re-sign them all?
Jan. 18, 2018 at 11:54 a.m.
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Emotionally in 2018
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This Florida trade is bad for all parties. Trocheck is more important to Florida than he would be to us, and we'd be giving up a top-six talent for someone to be our 3C. Yes, it'd give us insanely good center depth, but I'd rather keep my guys at that point.
Jan. 18, 2018 at 1:21 p.m.
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This Florida trade is bad for all parties. Trocheck is more important to Florida than he would be to us, and we'd be giving up a top-six talent for someone to be our 3C. Yes, it'd give us insanely good center depth, but I'd rather keep my guys at that point.


Yes, and you should totally apply for that coaching job to get Burakovsky out of the press box. He's a future thirty goal scorer, for sure, if he plays with Backstrom for 82 games. But it won't happen under Trotz, and Trocheck is going to hit 30 this season, in a non-contract year, and is signed through the rest of Ovechkin's contract, cheaply. Yes, he could move to 3C next year, but Eller is great there, now, and they can afford to lock him and Carlson up long term, with or without this trade.
 
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