Any deal to be had between the Sabres and Oilers for Klefbom? With Nurse becoming a star in the making, just wondering if Klefbom could be dealt for multiple pieces to help fill some holes.
Before you rip me here's my offer and thoughts:
Jake McCabe, Alex Nylander, and Zemgus Girgensons.
I see the Oilers with 13 players under contract w/ about 17-18M cap space with a 79M cap. So that's like 8-9 players that need to be fit into 17M, and with Nurse becoming a dude, he will take up a lot of it.
McCabe can replace Klefbom (JMC actually has more points this year than Klef on a worse team) on a 1.6M contract. Nylander has high upside to improve winger play and still has 3 years of ELC to eat up and Girgensons can play 3rd line checking minutes and give you 20pts and is also super cheap.
Could open enough cap space for the Oil to go after a stud RHD like Carlson etc.
Before you rip me here's my offer and thoughts:
Jake McCabe, Alex Nylander, and Zemgus Girgensons.
I see the Oilers with 13 players under contract w/ about 17-18M cap space with a 79M cap. So that's like 8-9 players that need to be fit into 17M, and with Nurse becoming a dude, he will take up a lot of it.
McCabe can replace Klefbom (JMC actually has more points this year than Klef on a worse team) on a 1.6M contract. Nylander has high upside to improve winger play and still has 3 years of ELC to eat up and Girgensons can play 3rd line checking minutes and give you 20pts and is also super cheap.
Could open enough cap space for the Oil to go after a stud RHD like Carlson etc.
Just thoughts.
Thanks
Hmm maybe nylander and and mccabe could do it an I do to klef will only get better an his contract is unreal
Well, Kane would be a rental unless the Oilers move bad contracts (it doesn't really make sense to ask for him since they're likely out of the playoffs) and Reinhart isn't exactly lighting it up. Klefbom is a Top-4 on a very reasonable contract. They need the cap space to fill the other needs and that's why they can't afford to trade away good-value contract unless a real overpay comes around.
Why? They aren't that different - Risto has slightly better career numbers offensively (0.41 ppg / 309 games vs 0.36 ppg / 231 games) but is not as good defensively (-89 career!) and has a much bigger contract ($5.4M x 4 more years after this season vs Klefbom at $4.167M x 5 more years. If you look at the underlying numbers this year - and not even accounting for the fact that Klefbom has been playing with a nagging shoulder injury that has seriously affected his shot - Klefbom comes out ahead in many on-ice metrics such as CF% (+5.16), FF% (+5.75), SF% (+4.67), SCF% (+4.46), HDCF% (+8.12). In all these metrics Klefbom is above water while Ristolainen is below. More: HDGF% (Klefbom +9.12!!). Individual metrics such as shots, iCF, iFF, iSCF, iHDCF, rebounds created, takeaways and shots blocked all favour Klefbom.
Honestly, I'm not seeing a lot of daylight between these two. What do you see?
Why? They aren't that different - Risto has slightly better career numbers offensively (0.41 ppg / 309 games vs 0.36 ppg / 231 games) but is not as good defensively (-89 career!) and has a much bigger contract ($5.4M x 4 more years after this season vs Klefbom at $4.167M x 5 more years. If you look at the underlying numbers this year - and not even accounting for the fact that Klefbom has been playing with a nagging shoulder injury that has seriously affected his shot - Klefbom comes out ahead in many on-ice metrics such as CF% (+5.16), FF% (+5.75), SF% (+4.67), SCF% (+4.46), HDCF% (+8.12). In all these metrics Klefbom is above water while Ristolainen is below. More: HDGF% (Klefbom +9.12!!). Individual metrics such as shots, iCF, iFF, iSCF, iHDCF, rebounds created, takeaways and shots blocked all favour Klefbom.
Honestly, I'm not seeing a lot of daylight between these two. What do you see?
I see Ristolainen playing on a team that has as many as 8 players, including often times more than half of the D core, who should be in the AHL, or who are AHL players due to injuries.
I see Ristolainen playing on a team that has as many as 8 players, including often times more than half of the D core, who should be in the AHL, or who are AHL players due to injuries.
Edmonton isn't much better and Klefbom has a nagging shoulder injury, so there's that. I agree that Risto is probably the better player of the two, but I think Klefbom's better contract makes up much of the difference. It's certainly not a lopsided trade suggestion.
Also, I think I have proved that your comment that I'm "bad at evaluating players" was unwarranted.
Ya right. An elite defensemen who will get +50 points a year once Buffalo is good for a good defensemen in Klefbom? Nah, your tossing in Drai for Buffalo to consider
Ya right. An elite defensemen who will get +50 points a year once Buffalo is good for a good defensemen in Klefbom? Nah, your tossing in Drai for Buffalo to consider
That's reasonable. Klefbom + Draisaitl for Ristolainen + Eichel? Although Buffalo might need to retain...
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