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3 1st Round Picks and Brandon Montour

Created by: NeedTheCleanser
Team: 2018-19 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 19, 2018
Published: Jan. 19, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
NYI: The Islander's are in win now and floundering. They get an upgrade in net, dump salary in Greiss, get a cost controlled replacement in McCabe to replace De Haan and depth scoring in Pouliot. Conditional 3rd as insurance. Make it a 2nd. Whatever.
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PIT: The window might be closing and PIT gets a great scorer and a depth center that can add speed and is cheap. Saw a variation of this earlier. Would need the LAK trade in place then pull the trigger on this one.
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LAK: Basically a 2nd for Cole (5th Dman) and a 3rd for Pouliot (3rd or 4th line winger with speed and on pace for 18G).
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And then the montour trade. After losing the lottery again (of course) Buffalo has a ton of futures that they can use to address 2nd pair RHD. Overpay Montour in salary, but I think the compensation is fair. ANA is in a cap jam right now with only 14 players signed and 16M in cap space if there is a 78 or 79M cap ceiling. Matching this deal gives them like 9.75M in cap space to sign 6-7 players (including Ritchie and Kase). Definitely wont happen because NHL but its fun to think about. (Also: Montour is arbitration eligible).
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Sabres draft Zadina (3 OA), Bode Wilde (14th OA), and Dominik Bokk (25th OA)
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,750,000
5$6,250,000
2$850,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Mittelstadt, Casey
3$925,000
Zadina, Filip
3$925,000
2$2,250,000
3$4,250,000
Trades
1.
BUF
    2018 1st (top10 protected)
    2018 2nd Round
    Zachary Lauzon
    Ian Cole
    PIT
    1. Girgensons, Zemgus
    Additional Details:
    Evander Kane (50%)
    2.
    BUF
    1. Greiss, Thomas
    Additional Details:
    Lower of NYI or CGY 1st Round
    NYI
    1. McCabe, Jake
    Additional Details:
    Robin Lehner (50%)
    Conditional 2018 3rd (LAK) if NYI misses playoffs
    3.
    BUF
      2018 2nd Round
      2018 3rd Round
      LAK
        Ian Cole, Benoit Pouliot (50%)
        4.
        BUF
        ANA
        1. 2019 1st round pick (BUF)
        2. 2019 2nd round pick (BUF)
        3. 2019 3rd round pick (BUF)
        Buyouts
        Buried
        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2019
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        2020
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        Logo of the BUF
        Logo of the BUF
        Logo of the BUF
        2021
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        20$78,500,000$64,040,357$0$182,500$14,459,643
        Left WingCentreRight Wing
        Mittelstadt, Casey
        $925,000$925,000
        $10,000,000$10,000,000
        C
        UFA - 8
        $6,000,000$6,000,000
        RW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 5
        Zadina, Filip
        $925,000$925,000
        $1,875,000$1,875,000
        C
        UFA - 5
        $2,750,000$2,750,000
        RW
        UFA - 2
        $1,000,000$1,000,000
        LW
        UFA - 1
        $4,250,000$4,250,000
        C
        UFA - 5
        $5,600,000$5,600,000
        RW
        M-NTC, NMC
        UFA - 1
        $1,475,000$1,475,000
        C, LW
        UFA - 1
        $650,000$650,000
        LW, C
        UFA - 1
        $850,000$850,000
        RW
        UFA - 1
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        $2,000,000$2,000,000
        LD
        UFA - 2
        $5,400,000$5,400,000
        RD
        UFA - 4
        $750,000$750,000
        G
        UFA - 1
        $697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
        LD
        UFA - 2
        $6,250,000$6,250,000
        RD
        UFA - 2
        $3,333,333$3,333,333
        G
        UFA - 2
        $2,400,000$2,400,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 1
        $2,250,000$2,250,000
        RD
        UFA - 1

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        Jan. 19, 2018 at 5:59 p.m.
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        I don't hate it. Just not sure I buyout Bogosian with 2 years left (payout 4 years of buyout money) when I have the cap space to keep him instead of Sustr.
        Jan. 19, 2018 at 6:09 p.m.
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        Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
        I don't hate it. Just not sure I buyout Bogosian with 2 years left (payout 4 years of buyout money) when I have the cap space to keep him instead of Sustr.


        I’m just kind of sick of Bogo getting hurt and always having to raid Roch of their Dmen (hence the casey Nelson disaster)
        Jan. 19, 2018 at 6:12 p.m.
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        Quoting: Jbarre6
        I’m just kind of sick of Bogo getting hurt and always having to raid Roch of their Dmen (hence the casey Nelson disaster)


        thats whats falk and fedun are for, lol
        Jan. 19, 2018 at 7:43 p.m.
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        Take Boqvist and a left wing later, sign a free agent for the short term. LA appearently showed interest in Bogo
        Jan. 19, 2018 at 7:52 p.m.
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        Ducks aren't trading Montour. He is part of their top 4 for years to come.
        Jan. 19, 2018 at 8:16 p.m.
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        Quoting: HockeyNM1510
        Ducks aren't trading Montour. He is part of their top 4 for years to come.


        That's why they aren't trading him. He is being offersheeted here.
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        Jan. 19, 2018 at 8:26 p.m.
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        This was an enjoyable read.

        What I took in was that the trades values are very accurate and or close enough for sure.

        The LA trade isn't spot on imo as I doubt they give both a 2nd and 3rd after trading picks the last couple seasons, maybe they take 1 of those players for 1 of those picks.

        One thing I've seen that I really liked was Bogosian + a medium pick for Hjalmarsson. Both players are down on their luck, so it's a solid swap and gives you the opportunity to displace his cap hit. If you did this you could phase out the fantasy signing of Montour.

        Good Mock 4 Stars
        Jan. 19, 2018 at 8:33 p.m.
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        Quoting: wojme
        That's why they aren't trading him. He is being offersheeted here.


        He’s not getting offersheeted, he is staying a Duck. I wouldn’t be surprised if they lock him up before he even reaches RFA.
        Jan. 19, 2018 at 10:41 p.m.
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        Quoting: HockeyNM1510
        He’s not getting offersheeted, he is staying a Duck. I wouldn’t be surprised if they lock him up before he even reaches RFA.


        Watching fans just go bonkers over the idea of one of their players getting offer sheeted is the best part of this website.
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        Jan. 19, 2018 at 10:42 p.m.
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        I can't see the Ducks matching 6.25m from the Sabres. And the # 1 pick in 2019 is sure to be a top 10 pick. Ducks can certainly spend that 6.25m and acquire a good player or two plus that top ten pick..
        Conversely why would the Sabres pay so much for Montour, just spend the 6.25 m on other players and keep your picks.
        Jan. 19, 2018 at 10:45 p.m.
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        Quoting: Jbarre6
        Watching fans just go bonkers over the idea of one of their players getting offer sheeted is the best part of this website.


        You're correct. And I always love the comment, "he's not getting offer sheeted". What control does the team have if the player is a RFA, it's the player's right and the 30 other teams.
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        Jan. 19, 2018 at 10:48 p.m.
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        Quoting: palhal
        You're correct. And I always love the comment, "he's not getting offer sheeted". What control does the team have if the player is a RFA, it's the player's right and the 30 other teams.


        Yes, but if you offer sheet a player as a GM then you have 30 other GM's in the league less willing to take a phone call from you...
        Jan. 19, 2018 at 10:52 p.m.
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        Quoting: palhal
        I can't see the Ducks matching 6.25m from the Sabres. And the # 1 pick in 2019 is sure to be a top 10 pick. Ducks can certainly spend that 6.25m and acquire a good player or two plus that top ten pick..
        Conversely why would the Sabres pay so much for Montour, just spend the 6.25 m on other players and keep your picks.


        I mean it was just an idea to float out there. I generally don’t like Big UFA signings. Players are older and decline. This offer sheet gets Montour from 23-28 which is his prime. And I wouldn’t say it’s a lock to be top10. Colorado and Toronto showed that a team can make a turn quickly.

        The basic idea behind the post was moving assets in 2018 to load up on prospects in 2018 draft, so not having all those picks in 2019 doesn’t sting as bad. Decreasing returns to scale and that stuff.

        My guess if Montour continues to progress and hits 50-55pts in 2 years this becomes a decent bargain contract. At the most premium position in the game in 2018? A bargain.

        And those were my thoughts.
        Jan. 19, 2018 at 11:18 p.m.
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        Quoting: Jbarre6
        I mean it was just an idea to float out there. I generally don’t like Big UFA signings. Players are older and decline. This offer sheet gets Montour from 23-28 which is his prime. And I wouldn’t say it’s a lock to be top10. Colorado and Toronto showed that a team can make a turn quickly.

        The basic idea behind the post was moving assets in 2018 to load up on prospects in 2018 draft, so not having all those picks in 2019 doesn’t sting as bad. Decreasing returns to scale and that stuff.

        My guess if Montour continues to progress and hits 50-55pts in 2 years this becomes a decent bargain contract. At the most premium position in the game in 2018? A bargain.

        And those were my thoughts.


        Well he isn't going to do that in a Buffalo Sabres uniform, that's for sure.
        Jan. 20, 2018 at 9:29 a.m.
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        Quoting: palhal
        I can't see the Ducks matching 6.25m from the Sabres. And the # 1 pick in 2019 is sure to be a top 10 pick. Ducks can certainly spend that 6.25m and acquire a good player or two plus that top ten pick..
        Conversely why would the Sabres pay so much for Montour, just spend the 6.25 m on other players and keep your picks.


        Damn. But i dont think 2019 is a top ten pick, theirs no way okposo has another bad season, D would be vastly improve, goaltending improved, maybe (possibly) a new coach(lol) and forwards should have at least 2 impressive rookies in the line up. In theory the team should be better
        Jan. 20, 2018 at 3:47 p.m.
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        Quoting: Shibbal18
        Damn. But i dont think 2019 is a top ten pick, theirs no way okposo has another bad season, D would be vastly improve, goaltending improved, maybe (possibly) a new coach(lol) and forwards should have at least 2 impressive rookies in the line up. In theory the team should be better


        Hi Shibbal18. I just don't know how many teams the Sabres our jump ahead to get out of the bottom 10. Look at the Eastern Conference alone. Even with some growth you would 11th best in the East would be a good one year jump. Sabres just gotta hope their youngsters develop and get some luck at the draft. Getting rid of some those bad contracts in a few years and replace with more value will help...but that's gonna take a few years.
        Jan. 20, 2018 at 4:26 p.m.
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        Quoting: palhal
        Hi Shibbal18. I just don't know how many teams the Sabres our jump ahead to get out of the bottom 10. Look at the Eastern Conference alone. Even with some growth you would 11th best in the East would be a good one year jump. Sabres just gotta hope their youngsters develop and get some luck at the draft. Getting rid of some those bad contracts in a few years and replace with more value will help...but that's gonna take a few years.


        True that they need a more efficient bottom 6, too much pressure on the top 2 lines (amongst other tweaks)
         
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