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LA Trade?

Created by: Price_is_the_goat
Team: 2018-19 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 20, 2018
Published: Jan. 20, 2018
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ALL TRADES HAPPEN AT 2018 TDL
Reasons for trade to LA.
Doughty is a UFA in 2 years. LA goes all in for a chance to win the cup, before his extension or trade kicks in
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Vilardi, Gabe
3$925,000
Dhalin, Rasmus
3$925,000
Schuldt, Jimmy
3$925,000
Evans, Jake
3$925,000
7$15,000,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Clague, Kale
  2. Gáborík, Marián
Additional Details:
Gabriel Vilardi
2018 1st Round Pick
LAK
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Pacioretty, Max ($1,500,000 retained)
  3. Petry, Jeff
  4. 2019 3rd round pick (MTL)
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Rights to Zach Fucale
2.
MTL
    2018 5th rd Pick
    3.
    MTL
      2018 6th rd pick
      Retained Salary Transactions
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2019
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      2020
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      2021
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      20$82,000,000$74,582,974$0$940,000$7,417,026
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
      $5,500,000$5,500,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 5
      $15,000,000$15,000,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 7
      $3,750,000$3,750,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 3
      $4,900,000$4,900,000
      LW, C, RW
      UFA - 2
      Vilardi, Gabe
      $925,000$925,000
      $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$175,000$175K)
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      $839,166$839,166
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      Evans, Jake
      $925,000$925,000
      $3,900,000$3,900,000
      C, RW
      UFA - 4
      $650,000$650,000
      C, LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      $4,875,000$4,875,000
      RW
      UFA - 3
      $3,750,000$3,750,000
      C
      UFA - 3
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      $748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
      LD/RD
      UFA - 2
      $7,857,143$7,857,143
      RD
      UFA - 8
      $10,500,000$10,500,000
      G
      NMC
      UFA - 8
      Dhalin, Rasmus
      $925,000$925,000
      $761,666$761,666 (Performance Bonus$157,500$158K)
      LD/RD
      RFA - 3
      Schuldt, Jimmy
      $925,000$925,000
      $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
      RD
      UFA - 2
      $4,625,000$4,625,000
      LD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 4

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      Jan. 20, 2018 at 12:34 p.m.
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      LuckyDuck311
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      L.A. is NEVER taking Petry....they have Depth on defence in their system and have their own cap problems...ala signing Drew D.

      I am not a hater of Petry but his contract is looking more and more like a disaster.

      Edmonton might take a flyer on Petry if you take back Lucic in a multi-player deal.

      NY islanders might take Petry along with pacman but not sure who we want in return that has a similar cap hit (other then Tavares) . I guess we could eat 1/2 of petry contract for a couple years to try and get one of their 1st picks.
      Jan. 20, 2018 at 12:44 p.m.
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      Quoting: LuckyDuck
      L.A. is NEVER taking Petry....they have Depth on defence in their system and have their own cap problems...ala signing Drew D.

      I am not a hater of Petry but his contract is looking more and more like a disaster.

      Edmonton might take a flyer on Petry if you take back Lucic in a multi-player deal.

      NY islanders might take Petry along with pacman but not sure who we want in return that has a similar cap hit (other then Tavares) . I guess we could eat 1/2 of petry contract for a couple years to try and get one of their 1st picks.


      Disaster? Only to the untrained eye. He is no superstar but I've explained many a time on here to people why he is far from a disaster. He's simply overpaid. That's all.
      Jan. 20, 2018 at 1:11 p.m.
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      Just do Patches for Clague, Vilardi and pick
      Jan. 20, 2018 at 2:07 p.m.
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      laugh No way are the Kings taking on Petry's $5.5 million when they will be looking to lock up Drew Doughty whom could command about $11 million to $12 million depending on what Karlsson and Tavares get. And Petry lives in Michigan so why would he want ot go to LA?
      Jan. 20, 2018 at 2:07 p.m.
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      Quoting: F50marco
      Disaster? Only to the untrained eye. He is no superstar but I've explained many a time on here to people why he is far from a disaster. He's simply overpaid. That's all.


      in canadian markets u have to overpay a FA, simply because of tax. he makes 5.5, but he's worth 4.5. and as I said, LA should go all in before Doughty resigns (or gets traded). they have a great core, and adding pacioretty and petry and byron (on pace for another 20 goal season and makes 1.6mill), LA should be able to compete well. i watched last nights game against anahiem, and looking at anahiems depth, LA can only go through them in the playoffs, if they carry the same type of depth
      Jan. 20, 2018 at 2:22 p.m.
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      Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
      in canadian markets u have to overpay a FA, simply because of tax. he makes 5.5, but he's worth 4.5. and as I said, LA should go all in before Doughty resigns (or gets traded). they have a great core, and adding pacioretty and petry and byron (on pace for another 20 goal season and makes 1.6mill), LA should be able to compete well. i watched last nights game against anahiem, and looking at anahiems depth, LA can only go through them in the playoffs, if they carry the same type of depth


      $1.6mil? ha! even better my friend! he's a 20 goal scorer that makes $1.16mil wink
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      Jan. 20, 2018 at 5:35 p.m.
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      Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
      in canadian markets u have to overpay a FA, simply because of tax. he makes 5.5, but he's worth 4.5. and as I said, LA should go all in before Doughty resigns (or gets traded). they have a great core, and adding pacioretty and petry and byron (on pace for another 20 goal season and makes 1.6mill), LA should be able to compete well. i watched last nights game against anahiem, and looking at anahiems depth, LA can only go through them in the playoffs, if they carry the same type of depth


      Yeah I know, I've been preaching this concept around here plenty but at 5.5m regardless of taxation and whatnot, is too high for what he brings. Saying that, that doesn't mean he is a disaster which is what luckyduck had said.
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      Jan. 22, 2018 at 6:25 a.m.
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      Quoting: F50marco
      Yeah I know, I've been preaching this concept around here plenty but at 5.5m regardless of taxation and whatnot, is too high for what he brings. Saying that, that doesn't mean he is a disaster which is what luckyduck had said.


      I think Petry is a solid #3 or serviceable but not great #2 on a cup team.
      But with Weber and Price contracts 5.5 million for 4 more years is a pretty gross contract. 2.5 Million a year too much imo.
      I don't hate the player, I hate the contract moving forward on a team with Weber/Price.

      I think it makes sense to trade him now before the Contract really starts to hurt.
      I would make a trade for Trouba, I am willing to give up Mete if we get OEL, or another prospect in this years draft.
      Jan. 22, 2018 at 12:37 p.m.
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      Quoting: LuckyDuck
      I think Petry is a solid #3 or serviceable but not great #2 on a cup team.
      But with Weber and Price contracts 5.5 million for 4 more years is a pretty gross contract. 2.5 Million a year too much imo.
      I don't hate the player, I hate the contract moving forward on a team with Weber/Price.

      I think it makes sense to trade him now before the Contract really starts to hurt.
      I would make a trade for Trouba, I am willing to give up Mete if we get OEL, or another prospect in this years draft.


      Yeah I get what you mean but there really isn't any basis for it nor any realistic solution for it either.....

      Yes Petry is overpaid. I know it. He knows it. Habs know it. No one is fooling anyone. The problem herein lies with the fact that even if he is overpaid, we can't do better anyway. You want to pay 3M for a RHD that plays on average 22 Mins a night since arriving in MTL?? Good luck with that...... you can't look at OEL making 5.5M and then look at Petry making the same thing and say " Pfffff Petry is a 3M dman compared to OEL". You know who you should be comparing Petry to? Sekera, Marc Staal, Alex Goligoski........Is Petry not earning his wage compared to those guys with the exception of maybe Goligoski who is having a decent year also?

      As for Petry's cap hit, go here and see what the difference in tax means for Petry or anyone we'd want to add to the Habs:
      https://www.capfriendly.com/post_tax_calculator
      Overpaying Petry wasn't because he is the best thing since swiss cheese..........its because it is the only way we could sign him. Just like it will be for any other big name free agent. WE don't have a choice. WE have to overpay anyone that comes here.

      You know what I want? Connor McDavid, Zack Werenski and Patrick Laine. But we all know that isn't going to happen. Its nice to dream about better options but when a player isn't really that bad and is doing a decent job like Petry is, we can't be too choosey.

      With Weber hurt, Petry is our best dman and you want to get rid of him? Ok and replace him with what? Trouba? OEL? Ok, good luck with that...... when those options ultimately fail, be happy you still have Petry to rely on night in and night out because if you think Petry is bad, wait till you see Schlemko and Jerebek playing 23 mins a night on a regular basis........
      Jan. 23, 2018 at 1:40 p.m.
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      Quoting: F50marco
      Yeah I get what you mean but there really isn't any basis for it nor any realistic solution for it either.....

      Yes Petry is overpaid. I know it. He knows it. Habs know it. No one is fooling anyone. The problem herein lies with the fact that even if he is overpaid, we can't do better anyway. You want to pay 3M for a RHD that plays on average 22 Mins a night since arriving in MTL?? Good luck with that...... you can't look at OEL making 5.5M and then look at Petry making the same thing and say " Pfffff Petry is a 3M dman compared to OEL". You know who you should be comparing Petry to? Sekera, Marc Staal, Alex Goligoski........Is Petry not earning his wage compared to those guys with the exception of maybe Goligoski who is having a decent year also?

      As for Petry's cap hit, go here and see what the difference in tax means for Petry or anyone we'd want to add to the Habs:
      https://www.capfriendly.com/post_tax_calculator
      Overpaying Petry wasn't because he is the best thing since swiss cheese..........its because it is the only way we could sign him. Just like it will be for any other big name free agent. WE don't have a choice. WE have to overpay anyone that comes here.

      You know what I want? Connor McDavid, Zack Werenski and Patrick Laine. But we all know that isn't going to happen. Its nice to dream about better options but when a player isn't really that bad and is doing a decent job like Petry is, we can't be too choosey.

      With Weber hurt, Petry is our best dman and you want to get rid of him? Ok and replace him with what? Trouba? OEL? Ok, good luck with that...... when those options ultimately fail, be happy you still have Petry to rely on night in and night out because if you think Petry is bad, wait till you see Schlemko and Jerebek playing 23 mins a night on a regular basis........


      I think you can get Trouba for Mette and then go all in on OEL, or another star defensemen. Trouba makes Petry not needed....
      Jan. 23, 2018 at 2:15 p.m.
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      without petry i think this deal is still solid, I also believe tavares will come in around 12-13mil not 15mil the only reason people are now saying 15 is because it was said in the media. that number never surfaced before then.
      Jan. 23, 2018 at 3:51 p.m.
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      Quoting: LuckyDuck
      I think you can get Trouba for Mette and then go all in on OEL, or another star defensemen. Trouba makes Petry not needed....


      In what world does Mete get you Trouba though? Plus Trouba is somewhat picky on where he'll sign his UFA contract in. Seems he wants to play in the States. So I don' think that's happenning. Plus now we're short a LHD puck moving dman for the future in Mete.

      Then you want to go all in on OEL? With what exactly? The things we have that Arizona would want would only cause another hole to fix afterwards. Plus you got to trade Petry first. He has a M-NTC so its not like we can just trade him to who ever.

      Plus plus plus, whomever is interested in Petry would also be interested in Trouba or OEL if they were available so they'd probably wnat to see if they could land one of them first before going to option #2 in Petry.

      Hey who am i to day otherwise....all I can say is you'd have to be a really "Lucky-Duck" for this to work as planned. laugh
      Jan. 23, 2018 at 7:21 p.m.
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      In what world does Mete get you Trouba though? Plus Trouba is somewhat picky on where he'll sign his UFA contract in. Seems he wants to play in the States. So I don' think that's happenning. Plus now we're short a LHD puck moving dman for the future in Mete.

      Then you want to go all in on OEL? With what exactly? The things we have that Arizona would want would only cause another hole to fix afterwards. Plus you got to trade Petry first. He has a M-NTC so its not like we can just trade him to who ever.

      Plus plus plus, whomever is interested in Petry would also be interested in Trouba or OEL if they were available so they'd probably wnat to see if they could land one of them first before going to option #2 in Petry.

      Hey who am i to day otherwise....all I can say is you'd have to be a really "Lucky-Duck" for this to work as planned. laugh


      It might take Mete and a 2nd and another players but I think you can get Trouba. Maybe send Petry the other way and eat some of his money. The jets want a LD for Trouba and Mette fits the bill (maybe he is not a true #1 LD prospect but he is at as good as they are going to get) For the record Trouba is an RFA. I don't know details of Petry no movement clause but even if we have to keep him I can live that.

      And Montreal can get OEL for 2 players and a 1st Round pick. It is doable. Gallagher and Gulchuck probably, though I would rather give up Shaw or Byron.
      They can also swap Pacman for a 1st and a prospect. Montreal will at least have one 1st rd.

      Obviously you will need to open the bank for a URFA centre in the summer....
      Jan. 23, 2018 at 9:48 p.m.
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      Quoting: LuckyDuck
      It might take Mete and a 2nd and another players but I think you can get Trouba. Maybe send Petry the other way and eat some of his money. The jets want a LD for Trouba and Mette fits the bill (maybe he is not a true #1 LD prospect but he is at as good as they are going to get) For the record Trouba is an RFA. I don't know details of Petry no movement clause but even if we have to keep him I can live that.

      And Montreal can get OEL for 2 players and a 1st Round pick. It is doable. Gallagher and Gulchuck probably, though I would rather give up Shaw or Byron.
      They can also swap Pacman for a 1st and a prospect. Montreal will at least have one 1st rd.

      Obviously you will need to open the bank for a URFA centre in the summer....


      I dunno man, you sound pretty confident. All I can say is I don't think its that easy but for fun build this illusive all star AGM and lets see what other people think of it.
       
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