So a #27 pick for either Hanifin or Slavin since when is Hanifins value even close to Slavins value? Ron Framcis and blocks Sweeney's number.

Went over this the other day. Carolina has no interest in this.

It's a 3 way... Francis is also taking Barrie/Kerfoot/2019 3rd OTT (via COL) in addition to a "#27"

you have all the pieces there. Slavin and Hanifan for Carlo, Barrie, Kerfoot, 1st and 3nd rounder. still might not be enough for canes.

Yes... went over this yesterday

I shifted this quite a bit

Kerfoot alone answers Carolina's big "need" not to mention I flipped Boston's 1st to Carolina and dropped Spooner/Nemeth since they seemed to be non-factors...

They may not be interested, but certainly this deal comes a long way to meet Carolina where they're at...

I wouldn't trade either Hanifin or Slavin for Barrie it's still a bad trade for Carolina no way is Francis dealing Slavin and Hanifin i doubt he trades one of them let alone both of them. Francis wants a future #1C for Hanifin is the Kerfoot a future #1C don't think so Barrie isn't even close. Pretty sure that Slavin+Hanifins value is worth far more then Barrie+Kerfoot+2019 3rd round pick.

They can trade Bean and get a top end center and keep Hanifin and Slavin. Makes more sense, simpler, less moving parts, and they are better off.

I don't see Colorado taking this deal because I think Barrie has much more value then Slavin and Kerfoot and Carlo are a wash and then having to give up a pick.

I thought I would give it another crack... My mock up did seem to generate a lot of interest (or at least activity) granted my initial proposal may have been off balance, but I figured I'd try to center it a little more and see if that made a difference. But hey, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

Carolina is going to have even bigger needs after this, their LD gets crushed.

You don't think Dahlbeck could hold down the third pairing?

He already is. Problem is they no longsr have a top 2. Fleury and Bean aren’t ready.

I don't think he could hold down the second pairing, and I don't think Fleury could hold down the first pairing. The Canes have built themselves a very strong one-two punch at LD with Hanifin and Slavin, they might consider dealing one of them for an offensive top 6 centre but there is absolutely no chance both of them will be traded, especially for a RHD and what looks like a middle six winger. I'm sorry but your whole base is a non-starter for them.

Edit: and that 1st round pick, which will likely be a low one, is probably going to be a project taking years to be NHL ready so they aren't getting much results from there any time soon either.

Slavin or Hanifin might be a consideration to be traded, but not both. It's dead in the water with that alone.

If Carolina were getting Carlo and Kerfoot for one of their players, maybe, but Kerfoot is only averaging 13 minutes a game, and it's his first NHL season, so you can't sell him as a main piece either.

Spooner and Carlo as a base for one of Carolinas LHD
Or Kerfoot and Barry as a base
Or a combination of the two
Plus picks to balance the value

The most logical for Carolina, is probably to sell off one of their excess LHD in Fleury or Bean, in a trade for Barrie or Carlo. They are set on the left side by keeping what they have and buying a RHD to strengthen the right side gives them a balanced, quality top 4 for a number of years.

Fleury is on the 2nd pairing... Hanifin is on the 3rd pairing... Dahlbeck is a healthy scratch

either way I understand what you all are saying and why this wouldn't work. There is no room for Barrie he'd have to play his off side on the first pairing or Pesce would have to play his off side and then Dahlbeck would need to fill in on a permanent basis. It would leave their defense lesser than it is right now. I thought Kerfoot would compensate for the hit their defense would take as he is OP to 56 points in his rookie campaign and looks like he only has upward mobility, but it doesn't look like you all have the same high opinion of Kerfoot that I do. It's true he is only getting 13 and a half minutes a game, but this could be a good or a bad thing. His point totals could either really go up with the extra ice time or they could really suffer with the extra work load; won't know until the metal is put to the flame.

Fluery is currently in Charlotte. Ice time Hanafin 18;34. Fleury 16:26

If I'm Sakic I'd still make the trade, but I do have to agree with a lot of the other comments that it probably weakens the 'Canes too much on one side. That said, it all depends on how close the 'Canes management think they are to competing and where they think that #1C will come from if we're all thinking that's the missing piece. I would say Kerfoot is likely a solid #2C in the future, maybe a #1C with the right wingers (big AND skillful) he sees the ice well and he isn't afraid to go into the dirty areas for a small guy. Is he going to be a superstar? I suspect not, but he WILL be solid. I think it will have to be a big overpay to prise both Hanifin and Slavin out of Carolina. I really like the idea from an Avs PoV. Just seems to me they're going to want that big #1C NOW! Likelihood is they won't get it, but that probably means they won't trade both LHD at the same time. As for the comment above about the value of Barrie. Yes, he has high value but the Avs have Timmins & Makar to come through on the right side as well as Girard providing a similar style on the left. That's a lot of small offensive minded D so it does make Barrie surplus to requirements and even more valuable as trade bait. It could be the 'Canes look at the trade and think it's worth it and they flip Barrie (or one of the incumbent RHD) elsewhere to get that #1C. Just a thought. Fair dues to you for revisiting it and trying another option though (and opening yourself up to being slated! )