Quoting: Lehoulx
Yeah well, Jones is far from being a sure shot and same thing on Ritchie IMO. Did Ritchie ever played C in Anaheim? I see him as a no one Jenner or so from the little I've seen/saw from him.
You're not wrong there, Ritchie has struggled at the NHL level. Some Duck fans have already written him off as a bust, but I see a guy that has most of the tool but hasn't put them together yet. He lacks a step and his hands need work, sure, but that can be worked on. My main concern with Ritchie is his apparent lack of hockey IQ. If anything is going to hold him back, it's that. Like I said, Ritchie has most of the tools down, but he just doesn't seem to have the IQ to put it all together. Now, if he does manage to do that, he'll be a top 6 NHLer, I'm sure. It's just a question of "if".
Conversely, Jones will have an NHL career, I'm sure of that. He works extremely hard, is great along the boards and pretty much dominated our rookie camp at the beginning of this season. His junior numbers don't look great this season, but he did come into this season looking for a roster spot on the NHL team and it is likely that being sent back to juniors was very demotivating for him. I'm not saying it is, but it could be that he feels he has nothing to prove at the junior level anymore. I mean, the kid is arrogant AF about his own game and speaks like he's the next McDavid, so...idk? The real question with Jones is where he'll ultimately end up. I could see him as a #2W guy, but I could also see him as a 4th line energy guy. Regardless, I agree with you that neither Ritchie nor Jones are sure things.
Quoting: StuTheSniper
That's an overused line. The playoffs are tighter, everyone's scoring goes down.
That's absolutely not true. Go look at Getzlaf or Silfverberg, both those guys actually up their scoring during the playoffs, and I'm sure there are many more examples of that happening. Regardless, even if "everyone's scoring goes down", "everyone" doesn't disappear off the face off the earth and that is exactly what Patches has done at least twice in his career. We don't need more no-showers on our team. Hey, I'd be willing to take a punt and hope Patches comes to the team and puts up some decent numbers come playoff time, but I'm not giving up Steel + Mahura + 2nd to find out.
This whole situation is quite amusing because this is exactly what happened with Andrew Ladd. WPG fans wanted a boat load at the TDL for him and gave a bunch of excuses as to why he had bad playoff number i.e. his role in CHI, injuries, etc., and CHI came in, gave them exactly what they wanted, and what does he do? 2 pts in 7 games for them and one of their worst playoff runs in many years. Stats talk and Patches stats, whilst decent in some years, are horrendous in others.
The article also talks about Terry. I'm not as high on Terry as I am Steel. Maybe post something like Terry + Mahura + 2nd. I'd consider that.
Quoting: Lehoulx
What would you say about this:
Mahura
Morand
Comptois
3rd round pick 2018
I'd have to check the $ next year, but, based on pure value, I'd do that deal.