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MTL fans, Pacio Trade Price?

Created by: stars96
Team: 2017-18 Dallas Stars
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 5, 2018
Published: Feb. 5, 2018
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Description
What offers would you need from Dallas for Paches?I believe Heiskanen is untouchable in this trade and I would also not want Jordie coming back. So, without Heisk what would it take? The trade I put up was basically just a formality
Trades
1.
DAL
  1. 2018 3rd round pick (NJD)
ANA
  1. Ritchie, Brett
  2. 2019 7th round pick (DAL)
Additional Details:
Had 16 goals last year and is still fairly young. Could help Anaheim on the wings and play with his brother
2.
DAL
  1. Pacioretty, Max ($1,500,000 retained)
MTL
  1. Caamano, Nicholas
  2. Dickinson, Jason
  3. Honka, Julius
  4. 2018 1st round pick (DAL)
  5. 2018 3rd round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
Caamano is at a point per game in the OHL and impressed in camp this year
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$75,000,000$74,160,833$0$230,000$839,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$9,500,000$9,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
$5,750,000$5,750,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$700,000$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$2,550,000$2,550,000
LW
UFA - 2
$7,500,000$7,500,000
C, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
$6,250,000$6,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 5
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
$2,200,000$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 3
$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW
UFA - 1
$4,750,000$4,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
$870,000$870,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$2,200,000$2,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 5
$4,916,667$4,916,667
G
NMC
UFA - 6
$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$5,900,000$5,900,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$4,900,000$4,900,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
$770,833$770,833 (Performance Bonus$97,500$98K)
LD
UFA - 1
$725,000$725,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 5, 2018 at 5:58 p.m.
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Lots of pieces are nice but i think you'd need to find more accurate pieces of what MTL needs.

I would think a deal involving would be what MTL would ask.

Tufte/Gurianov - 1 prospect
Faksa - 1 young roster player (preferably a center)
1st - 1 draft pick
Feb. 5, 2018 at 7:10 p.m.
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Lots of pieces are nice but i think you'd need to find more accurate pieces of what MTL needs.

I would think a deal involving would be what MTL would ask.

Tufte/Gurianov - 1 prospect
Faksa - 1 young roster player (preferably a center)
1st - 1 draft pick


Honka 1st and roussel wouldn't be enouugh? No retention
Feb. 5, 2018 at 8:04 p.m.
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you get a 2/5 for trying a 3way deal which is hard in the best of circumstances.

but this doesnt address any of MTL's needs
we didnt trade away a better D for offense to give away our best offensive player.

if there is no top 6 center there is no deal , no exceptions .
i mean for crying out loud we need a left handed D and you couldnt even give us that
MTL is a worse team overall if this deal happens because none of these players considered the
fact we need a Right handed Center (or any top 6 bare minimum) and a LD when this draft we can
just pile picks and get what we need given we got 2 second rounders and a high pick in the first
Feb. 5, 2018 at 9:52 p.m.
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Honka 1st and roussel wouldn't be enouugh? No retention


MTL needs certain pieces only. Honka is a RHD. Roussel is another winger. HABS need CENTRES and if not centres, at least good LHD prospects. Mete is the only LHD with potential in the entire Habs organization. Adding another RHD who will be competeing for bottom pairing minutes and a 3rd/4th line agitator is not adding pieces the Habs need.
Feb. 5, 2018 at 10:24 p.m.
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you get a 2/5 for trying a 3way deal which is hard in the best of circumstances.

but this doesnt address any of MTL's needs
we didnt trade away a better D for offense to give away our best offensive player.

if there is no top 6 center there is no deal , no exceptions .
i mean for crying out loud we need a left handed D and you couldnt even give us that
MTL is a worse team overall if this deal happens because none of these players considered the
fact we need a Right handed Center (or any top 6 bare minimum) and a LD when this draft we can
just pile picks and get what we need given we got 2 second rounders and a high pick in the first


Ya, like I said in the description my offer was more of just a formality to get the post up. What specific package would you like to see coming Montreal's way?
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Feb. 5, 2018 at 11:41 p.m.
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Ya, like I said in the description my offer was more of just a formality to get the post up. What specific package would you like to see coming Montreal's way?


honestly DAL has neither Centers nor LD to spare
unless you can make a deal with ANA who has the most Center depth in the NHL and solid D i just dont see it happening .

if i had to make a deal that benefitted all three in some way it would be

Ana trades Kossila and Larsson for Brett Ritchie ,Jason Robertson and the rights to Riley Tufte (NCAA player like Vesey and Butcher have been going UFA after Aug.1st so there's a chance he'd never play here anyways)

that way ANA can still unite lw and rw brothers who love to hit while also having a top prospect and the rights to a pending UFA(in all likelihood)

MTL would want Kossila ,Larsson and a conditional 2nd for Patches if you make the finals it becomes a first (which is fair given DAL hasnt been in a final since they won their last cup 18 years ago)Patches who is a legit 30 goal scorer heating up with 13 pts in 13 games and 8 goals who has history with red hot Radulov so its obviously worth the gamble

everyone in this deal wins but DAL ends up giving up Ritchie ,Robertson ,Tufte's rights who might go UFA and a 2nd pick for Patches
ANA gets additions they can use now and develop later without giving up a roster piece and DAL obviously wins
Feb. 5, 2018 at 11:46 p.m.
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Ya, like I said in the description my offer was more of just a formality to get the post up. What specific package would you like to see coming Montreal's way?


but again keep in mind that is me trying to make the best out of an impossible situation
if you had even 1 prospect outside Heiskanen who i have to think is untouchable then things would be easier
but the issue is ANA has what MTL needs,MTL has what DAL needs and ANA given they have 4 former 1st line centers and Raekell playing wing with 5 other point per game prospects
you have to think re-stocking their depleted winger depth while uniting 2 physical playing brothers and getting the first shot at signing Tufte is enough for them to bite .
Feb. 6, 2018 at 12:04 a.m.
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honestly DAL has neither Centers nor LD to spare
unless you can make a deal with ANA who has the most Center depth in the NHL and solid D i just dont see it happening .

if i had to make a deal that benefitted all three in some way it would be

Ana trades Kossila and Larsson for Brett Ritchie ,Jason Robertson and the rights to Riley Tufte (NCAA player like Vesey and Butcher have been going UFA after Aug.1st so there's a chance he'd never play here anyways)

that way ANA can still unite lw and rw brothers who love to hit while also having a top prospect and the rights to a pending UFA(in all likelihood)

MTL would want Kossila ,Larsson and a conditional 2nd for Patches if you make the finals it becomes a first (which is fair given DAL hasnt been in a final since they won their last cup 18 years ago)Patches who is a legit 30 goal scorer heating up with 13 pts in 13 games and 8 goals who has history with red hot Radulov so its obviously worth the gamble

everyone in this deal wins but DAL ends up giving up Ritchie ,Robertson ,Tufte's rights who might go UFA and a 2nd pick for Patches
ANA gets additions they can use now and develop later without giving up a roster piece and DAL obviously wins


Ya I like that deal more than mine honestly. I think Dallas is a long shot to get him but if something like this came along I'd jump on it
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