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Pits-Van Blockbuster

Created by: Burebure
Initial Creation Date: Feb 22, 2018
Published: Feb 22, 2018 at 3:03 pm
Team: 2017-18 Vancouver Canucks
Team Explanation
Cap dump and cup runs for pits. Canucks get picks and young defense.
Trades
VAN
  1. Hagelin, Carl
  2. Määttä, Olli
  3. 2018 1st round pick (PIT)
  4. 2018 2nd round pick (PIT)
  5. 2019 2nd round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Sutter, Brandon
  2. Tanev, Christopher
Buyouts
  • Chris Higgins: $833,333
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Roberto Luongo: $800,000 (15%)
  • Jannik Hansen: $500,000 (20%)
  • Michael Del Zotto: $750,000 (25%)
Recapture Fees
  • Roberto Luongo: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2018
VAN
PIT
VAN
PIT
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
2019
VAN
VAN
PIT
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
2020
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
28$75,000,000$73,380,833$0$1,912,500$1,619,167
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Sedin, Daniel
$7,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Sedin, Henrik
$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Eriksson, Loui
$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
Vanek, Thomas
$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Horvat, Bo
$5,500,000
C
UFA - 6
Dorsett, Derek
$2,650,000
RW
UFA - 2
Baertschi, Sven
$1,850,000
LW
UFA - 1
Gagner, Sam
$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Boeser, Brock
$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
Goldobin, Nikolay
$863,333
LW
RFA - 2
Dowd, Nic
$640,000
C
UFA - 1
Granlund, Markus
$900,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
Gaunce, Brendan
$750,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
Virtanen, Jake
$894,167
RW
RFA - 1
Hagelin, Carl
$1,875,000
LW
UFA - 2
Archibald, Darren
$650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Edler, Alexander
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
Gudbranson, Erik
$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Markström, Jacob
$3,666,667
G
UFA - 3
Del Zotto, Michael
$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
Stecher, Troy
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
Nilsson, Anders
$2,500,000
G
UFA - 2
Hutton, Ben
$2,800,000
LD
UFA - 2
Biega, Alex
$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
Bachman, Richard
$650,000
G
UFA - 1
Pouliot, Derrick
$800,000
LD
RFA - 1
Holm, Philip
$925,000
D
UFA - 1
Määttä, Olli
$4,083,333
LD
UFA - 5

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Feb 22, 2018 at 3:11
#1
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 4,314
Likes: 1,068
Yeah why not. Get some picks and I like Olli , do it
Feb 22, 2018 at 3:17
#2
Mr.TF
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,051
Likes: 115
penguins wont move Olli.
Feb 22, 2018 at 3:22
#3
GaudsWish
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 286
Likes: 65
Maatta is just as good as Tanev but a lot younger
We don’t want Sutters crazy contract

I’m not sure why we are also giving up a first and 2 seconds

I could see the possibility if you guy took Hunwick and retained salary, but I think this an obvious no at this point
Feb 22, 2018 at 3:32
#4
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
1. Why would the Penguins be dumping salary? They are trying to win now.
2. This isn't even a cap dump. Tanev and Sutter have a higher total cap hit than Maatta and Hagelin, and Sutter is on the books longer than Hagelin.
3. Tanev is on IR, so this only hurts the Pens D corps.
4. Maatta is younger, cheaper, and has longer term than Tanev. That exchange, alone, is a clear loss for the Pens, and Sutter does not bring nearly enough to the Pens to make up for that loss, plus the loss of three draft picks.
5. If Sutter were to come to the Pens, he's a 4C behind Sheahan. No way the Pens are giving up those assets and paying close to $4.4 million for a 4C that's going to play 5 minutes a game.
6. Even taking the draft picks away, the trade is a clear loss for the Pens. Three draft picks is a non-starter.
Feb 22, 2018 at 3:42
#5
Hockey Super Genius
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 2,272
Likes: 471
Good idea's here .... but i think u de-valued Maatta in trade..... He is a very very good all around d-man
Feb 22, 2018 at 3:49
#6
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 82
Likes: 15
Creative, but the Pens aren't giving up all that for Tanev and an overpayed player we already traded once.
Feb 22, 2018 at 4:04
#7
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 30
Likes: 8
That is a terrible deal for Pittsburgh. It also makes no sense for them either. You should be paying us in 1st round picks just to take back Sutter and that disaster of a contract. Tanev is injured quite often (including right now) so there would be very little benefit in acquiring him either.
Feb 23, 2018 at 7:11
#8
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 17
Likes: 11
This is an extreme overpayment by the Pens. I'm a big Canucks fans but if you breakdown the trade, I basically see it this way:

To Pens:
Tanev

To Canucks:
2018 1st round pick (PIT)
2018 2nd round pick (PIT)
2019 2nd round pick (PIT)

This is the price the Flames paid for Hamonic so is high, but possible. Then you have the second part of the trade:

To Pens:
Sutter

To Canucks:
Hagelin, C
Määttä, O

^This is ridiculous, Sutter is a 3rd line center. Trading Hagelin who is a serviceable 3rd line PLUS Määttä who is a fantastic top 4 young Dman is never going to happen unless Rutherford has a gun to his head.

I could realistically see the trade going down like this:

To Pens:
Sutter
Tanev

To Canucks
Hagelin
2018 1st round pick (PIT)
2018 4th round pick (PIT)
2019 2nd round pick (PIT)

With the Canucks retaining salary to make it work. However with Brassard being traded to the Pens earlier today they no longer need someone like Sutter.
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Feb 25, 2018 at 1:54
#9
Thread Starter
Go Canucks Go
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 130
Likes: 26
Quoting: doogiski
This is an extreme overpayment by the Pens. I'm a big Canucks fans but if you breakdown the trade, I basically see it this way:

To Pens:
Tanev

To Canucks:
2018 1st round pick (PIT)
2018 2nd round pick (PIT)
2019 2nd round pick (PIT)

This is the price the Flames paid for Hamonic so is high, but possible. Then you have the second part of the trade:

To Pens:
Sutter

To Canucks:
Hagelin, C
Määttä, O

^This is ridiculous, Sutter is a 3rd line center. Trading Hagelin who is a serviceable 3rd line PLUS Määttä who is a fantastic top 4 young Dman is never going to happen unless Rutherford has a gun to his head.

I could realistically see the trade going down like this:

To Pens:
Sutter
Tanev

To Canucks
Hagelin
2018 1st round pick (PIT)
2018 4th round pick (PIT)
2019 2nd round pick (PIT)

With the Canucks retaining salary to make it work. However with Brassard being traded to the Pens earlier today they no longer need someone like Sutter.


i like it.
 
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