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(WPG / STL) - Stastny for Foley, 2018 1st and 2020 4th

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Feb 26, 2018 at 12:37
#1
A trade between Winnipeg Jets and St. Louis Blues has been confirmed.
Trade Details
St. Louis Blues Acquire:
St. Louis Blues
Erik Foley (Signing Rights)
2018 conditional 1st round pick* (WPG - #29 - Rasmus Sandin)
2020 conditional 4th round pick** (WPG)
*Conditions: If Winnipeg's 2018 1st round pick ends up being a top 3 pick, the Jets have the option to keep the 2018 1st round pick and send St. Louis their 2019 1st round pick instead.
Result: Blues receive Jets 2018 1st round pick.
**Conditions: If Blues don't sign Foley before Aug. 16, 2019, then they receive Jets 4th rounder in 2020.

Result: Blues signed Foley. Jets retain the 2020 4th round pick
Winnipeg Jets Acquire:
Winnipeg Jets
Paul Stastny ($3,500,000 retained - 50%)
Feb 26, 2018 at 12:37
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I know Stastny (even guys like Brassard) is a rental and it’s a different situation between WIN and the Habs, but find this quote from Bergefail even more hilarious now:

“Top centerman are not available in trades” - Marc Bergevin
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Feb 26, 2018 at 12:43
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Is the 1st conditional?
Feb 26, 2018 at 12:45
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Is the 1st conditional?


It is. There was some talk about lottery protection with picks that I didn't really follow, so that may be part of the condition on that pick.
Feb 26, 2018 at 12:47
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Quoting: BridgewatersFinest
It is. There was some talk about lottery protection with picks that I didn't really follow, so that may be part of the condition on that pick.


maybe something about their trade last year with Philly for Schenn.
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Feb 26, 2018 at 12:48
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
I know Stastny (even guys like Brassard) is a rental and it’s a different situation between WIN and the Habs, but find this quote from Bergefail even more hilarious now:

“Top centerman are not available in trades” - Marc Bergevin


Are we characterizing Paul Stastny as a "top centerman" now? Hasn't played a full season since 11/12. Good player, don't get me wrong.
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Feb 26, 2018 at 12:49
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
maybe something about their trade last year with Philly for Schenn.


1st round pick is Lottery Protected
Feb 26, 2018 at 12:51
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STL Blues right now: "aaaaaaaand I'm freeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free fallin..................Free fallin and I'm free fallin and I'm.......".

Man considering they were a contender half way through the year, this is nuts.
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Feb 26, 2018 at 12:53
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Quoting: BridgewatersFinest
Are we characterizing Paul Stastny as a "top centerman" now? Hasn't played a full season since 11/12. Good player, don't get me wrong.


He would be the top centerman on Montreal, and why would we trade a 1st + for a rental when we can just sign him in FA?
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Feb 26, 2018 at 12:54
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Quoting: F50marco
STL Blues right now: "aaaaaaaand I'm freeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free fallin..................Free fallin and I'm free fallin and I'm.......".

Man considering they were a contender half way through the year, this is nuts.


I wonder if it has something to do with Yeo's coaching. This happened more than once to him in Minnesota.
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Feb 26, 2018 at 12:57
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Quoting: BridgewatersFinest
Are we characterizing Paul Stastny as a "top centerman" now? Hasn't played a full season since 11/12. Good player, don't get me wrong.


Well that was his role in STL and in COL.... he’s by no means a franchise #1 C, but to say he’s not a top C..... jeez he’d be the best Center since Koivu for MTL.

The price WIN paid for him is fair imo. My first comment is just a jab a Bergefail about how he loves to say Centers are never available, but we see guys like Stastny and Brassard move in the span of a couple days lol
Feb 26, 2018 at 1:17
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The trade is fair as far as value, but I think the Jets won this deal... Stastny is a good add for the Jets - if the Jets can make it to the WCF it will be a win for them..

I just watched a couple of Jets documentaries recently (like 2 days ago) and it's clear the Jets fanbase is hungry for some sort of playoff success, and if this trade can get them a deep playoff run then it was worth it..
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Feb 26, 2018 at 1:26
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Good deal for WPG who already has many young players + prospects. This pushes their chances way up. I doubt they get past NSH, but this helps.
Feb 26, 2018 at 1:42
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
I know Stastny (even guys like Brassard) is a rental and it’s a different situation between WIN and the Habs, but find this quote from Bergefail even more hilarious now:

“Top centerman are not available in trades” - Marc Bergevin


Would you have traded your 2018 or even 2019 1st for Stastny?
Feb 26, 2018 at 1:51
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Quoting: Tickarski
Would you have traded your 2018 or even 2019 1st for Stastny?


If MTL were in the same position as WIN, absolutely.

Right now if Bergefail wasn’t looking to rebuild, and seeing the WIN 1st and MTL 2nd is roughly 5-10 spots difference, I’d could of seen MTL offer two 2nd’s and a prospect for Stastny.
Feb 26, 2018 at 2:04
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I think this is a great move by STL. If you're not winning the cup...then trading Stastny for a 1st round pick is great. This takes balls and patience. STL is not being short sighted here!
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Feb 26, 2018 at 2:39
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Edited Feb 26, 2018 at 3:04
conditions of this trade:

If Winnipeg's pick is Nos. 1-3, which it won't be, Blues will receive Jets' first-rounder in 2019. Otherwise, they will get it this year.

If Blues don't re-sign Foley before Aug. 16, 2019, then they receive Jets' 4th rounder in 2020.

So Blues get Foley or the 4th...not both.
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Feb 26, 2018 at 6:06
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Great addition for Winnipeg! That gives them plenty if scoring depth and a guy who can play the PK and power play.
Feb 26, 2018 at 10:22
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
maybe something about their trade last year with Philly for Schenn.


It's top 3 protected. Which means Win would have to pull a Blues in order for that to happen
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Feb 26, 2018 at 10:27
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Quoting: tadhockey
I wonder if it has something to do with Yeo's coaching. This happened more than once to him in Minnesota.


Yeo is a terrible coach, but Armstrong did this to himself. Steen, Berglund got contract extensions instead of a guy like Backes. Steen is an okay player, but the fact they wouldn't give Backes that type of contract but gave it to Steen instead is insane. Berglund got 5 years and a NMC for what? Not even 30 points? Allen was given a starter's contract before he proved himself to be a true number 1. Lots of hits with Armstrong (Schenn, Tarasenko and Schwartz contract) but he's had just as many if not more misses
Feb 26, 2018 at 10:30
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Quoting: exo2769
I think this is a great move by STL. If you're not winning the cup...then trading Stastny for a 1st round pick is great. This takes balls and patience. STL is not being short sighted here!


Agreed. They should have moved a couple others out as well
Feb 27, 2018 at 9:15
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Quoting: Clubkid75
conditions of this trade:

If Winnipeg's pick is Nos. 1-3, which it won't be, Blues will receive Jets' first-rounder in 2019. Otherwise, they will get it this year.

If Blues don't re-sign Foley before Aug. 16, 2019, then they receive Jets' 4th rounder in 2020.

So Blues get Foley or the 4th...not both.


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