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Creative dealing for Stone / Ryan

Created by: CaptJosef
Team: 2018-19 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 9, 2018
Published: Mar. 9, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Flyers give Hart, Allison, a year (at least) in the AHL. Vorobyov and Myers get one more year their too. Frost, Ratcliffe, and Strome stay in juniors one more year. Ultimately the Flyers cap space is fine. The Flyers can buy out Ryan's final year or two if they need extra room but should be fine regardless pencilling in re-signing the Flyers prospects to a combination of long term and bridge deals.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,000,000
2$1,250,000
1$975,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. Ryan, Bobby
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Rights to Mark Stone
OTT
  1. Laberge, Pascal
  2. MacDonald, Andrew
  3. Rubtsov, German
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2018 1st round pick (PHI)
2.
PHI
  1. Comtois, Maxime
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2018 1st round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Bunnaman, Connor
  2. Simmonds, Wayne
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2019 3rd round pick (PHI)
3.
PHI
  1. Gryba, Eric
EDM
  1. 2019 7th round pick (PHI)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$78,000,000$62,160,833$0$4,645,000$15,839,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Giroux, Claude
$4,137,500$4,137,500
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
Couturier, Sean
$4,333,333$4,333,333
C
UFA - 4
Konecny, Travis
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Lindblom, Oskar
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW
UFA - 2
Patrick, Nolan
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
C, RW
UFA - 2
Voracek, Jakub
$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
Raffl, Michael
$2,350,000$2,350,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Laughton, Scott
$962,500$962,500
C, LW
UFA - 1
Stone, Mark
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Weal, Jordan
$1,750,000$1,750,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
Vecchione, Michael
$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Ryan, Bobby
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Weise, Dale
$2,350,000$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
$680,833$680,833 (Performance Bonus$107,500$108K)
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Provorov, Ivan
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
Gostisbehere, Shayne
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
Elliott, Brian
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
Sanheim, Travis
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Gudas, Radko
$2,345,000$2,345,000
RD
UFA - 2
Neuvirth, Michal
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Hägg, Robert
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
Morin, Samuel
$975,000$975,000
LD, LW
UFA - 3
Gryba, Eric
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Mar. 9, 2018 at 8:34 a.m.
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palhal
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Yep, something like Ottawa trade could be worked out. Ottawa might have a feel if Stone is going to sign long term in Ottawa. I think he's a potential UFA after two more seasons, so if Ottawa is going full rebuilt....Flyers have some desirable young pieces. Good thought.
Mar. 9, 2018 at 8:46 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Yep, something like Ottawa trade could be worked out. Ottawa might have a feel if Stone is going to sign long term in Ottawa. I think he's a potential UFA after two more seasons, so if Ottawa is going full rebuilt....Flyers have some desirable young pieces. Good thought.


Couldn't disagree more. 1) Stone will be re-signed this summer to a long term deal. 2) I'll take Ryan at 7.25 for 4 years over Macdonald at 5 for 2 years, and that's saying a lot. Ryan can at least contribute. 3) That leaves a potentially late 1st rounder, and two forward prospects who aren't even PPG players in the juniors in their draft+2 years for our 25 year old PPG NHL power forward.

Not intentionally trying to sh*t on this proposal but it's not a good deal for the sens and if the sens made this trade, I would immediately lose whatever hope I have left in this franchise (there's currently not much).
Mar. 9, 2018 at 9:55 a.m.
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Quoting: MelnykOut
Couldn't disagree more. 1) Stone will be re-signed this summer to a long term deal. 2) I'll take Ryan at 7.25 for 4 years over Macdonald at 5 for 2 years, and that's saying a lot. Ryan can at least contribute. 3) That leaves a potentially late 1st rounder, and two forward prospects who aren't even PPG players in the juniors in their draft+2 years for our 25 year old PPG NHL power forward.

Not intentionally trying to sh*t on this proposal but it's not a good deal for the sens and if the sens made this trade, I would immediately lose whatever hope I have left in this franchise (there's currently not much).


I agree i think. If the sens sell off stone i think they do better. The one thing i disagree with is ryan. Both guys dont produce but 5mil for 2 years vs 7.5 for 4. Thats math. I get ryans more productive but neither guy really helps and if you choose ryan in 2 years he'll be even worse and you'll still be paying him.
Mar. 9, 2018 at 2:08 p.m.
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I think Konecny would have to be included in the Stone deal. Maybe even one of Morin or Myers. MacDonald is a good cap dump going other way for Ryan
Mar. 9, 2018 at 3:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Chopper02
I think Konecny would have to be included in the Stone deal. Maybe even one of Morin or Myers. MacDonald is a good cap dump going other way for Ryan


They can keep Stone if Konecny has to be included.
Mar. 9, 2018 at 3:17 p.m.
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HammerTime449
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I want nothing to do with that horrific Ryan contract.
Mar. 9, 2018 at 3:18 p.m.
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HammerTime449
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Why are we adding to Simmonds? Simmonds alone should be able to get a 1st and a decent prospect.
Mar. 9, 2018 at 3:41 p.m.
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They can keep Stone if Konecny has to be included.


You wouldn't give up Konecny for Stone?
Mar. 9, 2018 at 7:18 p.m.
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I do not understand the PHI/ANA trade. Why trade a player averaging 30 goals a season over the past 4 seasons for a single prospect? He is also on a team-friendly contract that most teams should be able to afford if they want to. Simmonds should net a good roster player, high-level prospect, and a 1st round pick.
Mar. 9, 2018 at 8:11 p.m.
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Quoting: JSG
I do not understand the PHI/ANA trade. Why trade a player averaging 30 goals a season over the past 4 seasons for a single prospect? He is also on a team-friendly contract that most teams should be able to afford if they want to. Simmonds should net a good roster player, high-level prospect, and a 1st round pick.


Simmonds is definitely worth more than Nash IMO.
Mar. 10, 2018 at 12:10 p.m.
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Mark Stone isn't available and he will get closer to 7 years $49 million then your offer.
Mar. 21, 2018 at 12:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Chopper02
You wouldn't give up Konecny for Stone?


Not with the way Konecny has been playing this year.
Mar. 21, 2018 at 7:58 a.m.
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Not with the way Konecny has been playing this year.


That's crazy. Stone is a complete player and young. He's worth just about anyone not named Provorov.
Mar. 21, 2018 at 4:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Chopper02
That's crazy. Stone is a complete player and young. He's worth just about anyone not named Provorov.


No its not, Stone's a great player but Konecny is younger and has already scored 20 goals as a 21 year old. Not to mention Stone is due for a huge pay raise this offseason.
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