I personally really like Shaw... I'd rather have Chucky than Kelfbom, Shaw than Lucic, and a 4th than Slepyshev :/

Personal preferences aside, was the value there?

Well value wise Klefbom and Chucky are similar but slight edge to Galchenyuk
Shaw is actually worth something while Lucic has a terrible contract, no one wants to touch that.
Slepychev went on waivers and wasn't claimed so he's maybe worth a 6th if you're lucky

*Slepychev was made available for trade sorry, not on waivers
But no interest shown by any team and had a pretty bad yeat

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u overpaid my friend - lucic > Shaw, Klefbom> Galch, Slepyshev>4th

habs fans severely overvalue their players, more than most other fan bases

EDM has to add because Chucky's upside is higher and to compensate for Lucic's terrible contract

If MTL takes Lucic, EDM must take Alzner...

why get rid of benning for nothing, teams were calling for him at last years trade deadline, let him have a comeback year next year. value is there for Montreal trade obviously will never happen though.

LUCIC > SHAW !!! HAHAHA And you tell that MTL fan overvalue their players.... LUCIC is a cap dumb, In a trade LUCIC for Shaw, EDM must add a 1st pick!!

I get what you trying to do here, get rid of Lucic but there isn't enough value coming back to MTL for it. Shaw is not a cap dump from our end. Dreger even admitted that he's heard that teams are interested in Shaw but MB didn't want to move him....

This feels like you're trying to pull a fast one on us. Slepy and the 4th pretty much cancel out. So does Klefbom and Galchenyuk. (Give or take). Lucic for Shaw? I'd take Shaw and his contract any day of the week over Lucic's.

The equivalent of the Habs version of Lucic is more likely Alzner. I could see the Habs moving Galchenyuk and Alzner for Klefbom and Lucic over the latter you mentioned.

Chucky had a bad year after his injury, but his talent is off the roof. The guy will hit 50 points this year on a terrible team with no puck transition from the D and playing 4th line minutes for the first 20 games or so.
Anyway, good luck trading Lucic

I agree with Yanp007 that, straight up even, Shaw is > Lucic. Add in the contract fiasco, it's not even close. It's probably a deal breaker since the Habs are not a team that can make much use of one of the league's slower players.

Chucky and Klefbom are probably pretty square, assuming it's what both teams need. That might be be the only part of the deal that makes sense.

From Montreal: Value is very close... but because of long term Lucic contract, to make it even, Edm need to ass: Strome, Lucic, Klefbom for Galch, Shaw.
At the same time Edm will shed +/-13M for 9M in.

I suggested a Chucky for Klefbom deal a while back and got absolutely trashed on. I still think both of them are pretty close in value (you can make a case for both on whose more valuable). I think EDM fans issues arise from the fact they had to give up Hall for Larsson, and now they feel the need to do the same to other teams who would want Klefbom.

it's not gonna happen

shaw has 20pts this year lmfao hes not a good player.. lucic has 31pts in the worst offensive season of his career

pls explain how 20pts is better than 31pts (in his worst offensive season ever)

I think Klefbom and Galchenyuk are fairly even in terms of value, but I would give an edge to Klefbom. Top 4 defencemen are more valuable than wingers in 95% of cases. It's not like Galchenyuk is a perennial 30 goal scorer.

Galchenyuk's per 82 games average stats over the last 5 years (doesn't include his rookie year) is: 22G 28A 50P -10

+/- is far from the best stat, but him having managed to average a -10 rating on a team that's been a playoff team 3 of 5 years isn't great.

20pts in 49 games vs 31pts in 69 games. add the 20 games Shaw has missed and they'd be practically the same. and considering Shaw's contract is one year shorter and $2.1mil cheaper, and add the fact that Shaw is a more versatile player, as in he can play all forward positions LW - C - RW, and he can skate which is cruicial in today's NHL which Lucic can't....

so yeah as much as Lucic's past success looks good in a trades pitch, and I personally think MTL should give Lucic a shot since they have the coach where he's had the most success with. Shaw at this moment has more value. only guy i'd give up for him is Alzner. or if EDM are ok with retaining a bit of salary, I'd be down to trade some project prospects for him (McCarron, DLR type players)

shaw is an average third line player at his best, and at his worst lucic mid tier 2nd line player. i disagree with players who are cheaper being more valuable because there is only so much ice time to replace the money and production. lucic isnt a bad hockey player, his contract is just 1M too much for 3Years too long

if Lucic continues to struggle, he'll play himself right out of the NHL. It's all about speed and mobility these days, and he just doesn't have it. in EDM, Lucic is decent 2nd liner because he has guys like Drai or RNH feeding him open nets, and let's not kid ourselves, Lucic has played many games on the 1st line and PP with McJesus , which should account for some of his points he has this year. In MTL he would not have such a luxury. again I think MTL should give a shot in acquiring Lucic, because even with his lack of speed, I think Claude Julien has the best chance at fitting Lucic's style into his system. but Shaw has more versatility, sure at the end of the day you'd want him on a 3rd line, but he can literally slot anywhere in the lineup from 1st to 4th line at any position, which is an extremely desired trait. It's not for nothing many teams were reported interested in traded for Shaw at the deadline. even though he was not a rental.

and as you say, Lucic's contract is 3 years too long, and those 3 years remove basically all value from anything he can potentially add to a team. Especially when his contract is basically buyout proof with all his signing bonuses.

ok say what u want about lucic but shaw makes 1.9M too much for 3 years too long. 3rd liners shouldnt be making 4 mill on a 6 year contract - part of why montreal sucks

Shaw contract doesn’t bother MTL in the slightest lol look at all the cap space they still have. Sure his AAV is a little rich, but seeing how he only just turned 26, the term of his deal is really not an issue.

The fact that you think he’s a reason why MTL sucks really shows you have no clue what you’re talking about. But sure, Habs are terrible right now. What’s more pathetic though is that EDM are just as bad, and they’ve had 1st overall picks up to wazzoo for how many years now? Talk about embarrassing.

He's nearly four years older, way overpaid, can't skate and tallied 11 more points playing front-line minutes with two of the leagues better centres. He's not half as useful to the Habs who don't have a setup man. Shaw plays mainly PK and shutdown minutes.

I'll give you Shaw, but keep Lucic. No interest in him whatsoever.

Remove your sunglass, or clean it dude!! Lucic starts his season on the 1st line, right now he plays with McDavid and on the 1st PP unit (https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/edmonton-oilers/line-combinations), he's slow like a turtle, in the last 25 games, Talbot has more points then Lucic, or very close... Shaw played on the 3rd and 4th line, sometimes on center, sometimes on wings, he played on PK, he skates well. So, I think you ever see Shaw played. Shaw is overpaid at 3.9M but don't forget that Lucic is a CAP DUMP!!