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if Hoffman rumors are true

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Team: 2018-19 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 13, 2018
Published: Mar. 16, 2018
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        Mar. 16, 2018 at 3:39 a.m.
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        I don't think those picks makes sense because EDM is getting the better player, and OTT takes on a hefty contract for what RNH brings imo
        Mar. 16, 2018 at 5:44 a.m.
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        Quoting: Claesson4Norris
        I don't think those picks makes sense because EDM is getting the better player, and OTT takes on a hefty contract for what RNH brings imo


        Mike Hoffman PPG: 0.677 %PP 45.3 %SH 0.7
        RNH PPG: 0.673 %PP39.2 %SH 33.5

        Literally the only stats that you'll find that's in favor of Hoffman is Goals and Shot volume. RNH is ahead of Hoffman in pretty much the rest. They have same production while RNH plays 2 minutes per night more shorthanded. Hoffman does not play shorthanded.

        It's a 25 yo with 3 years term vs a 28 yo with 2 years term.

        The only reason this is being said is because RNH is a 1st OA and Hoffman is a 5th rounder. RNH vs Hoffman's value is comparable, but RNH gets lots of **** because expectations of his draft status
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        Mar. 16, 2018 at 6:21 a.m.
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        Quoting: Fleurdelille
        Mike Hoffman PPG: 0.677 %PP 45.3 %SH 0.7
        RNH PPG: 0.673 %PP39.2 %SH 33.5

        Literally the only stats that you'll find that's in favor of Hoffman is Goals and Shot volume. RNH is ahead of Hoffman in pretty much the rest. They have same production while RNH plays 2 minutes per night more shorthanded. Hoffman does not play shorthanded.

        It's a 25 yo with 3 years term vs a 28 yo with 2 years term.

        The only reason this is being said is because RNH is a 1st OA and Hoffman is a 5th rounder. RNH vs Hoffman's value is comparable, but RNH gets lots of **** because expectations of his draft status


        I should have provided my reasoning as well. I think they are comparable players, but what I really meant when I said Hoffman is the better player is that he will likely be much more useful to EDM than RNH is right now, and also more useful than RNH will be to OTT. Not meant as a knock on Nuge, but putting an elite Skater+shooter with hands down the best player in the league will be nasty. way more than RNH with Ryan and Dzingel will be. Also according to my very serious calculations, Hoffman will be looking at 90ish goals over the course of that contract.
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        Mar. 16, 2018 at 8:20 a.m.
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        If AAs rights are traded at the 2018 NHL draft the ask from Edmomton would be Caleb Jones+Edmontons 2018 2nd round pick not 2019 you want AA we want your 2018 2nd on top of it.
         
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