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2003 nhl draft team

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Team: 2017-18 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 17, 2018
Published: Mar. 17, 2018
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20$75,000,000$118,850,431$0$0-$43,850,431
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
$6,875,000$6,875,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
$6,875,000$6,875,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
$8,250,000$8,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
$8,625,000$8,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$2,636,364$2,636,364
RW, C
UFA - 5
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$7,538,462$7,538,462
LW
NMC
UFA - 8
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$7,538,462$7,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 8
$5,750,000$5,750,000
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 9
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
$4,900,000$4,900,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$7,600,000$7,600,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4

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Mar. 17, 2018 at 6:50 p.m.
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Even at this point:

Seabrook>Phaneuf
Seabrook>Methot

Seabrook gets no love anymore.

The guy may be overpaid but he's not terrible, now.

Lets put Seabrook into perspective - I'm sure if I told a hockey fan that Seabrook has put up nearly as many points as RNH over the last 3 seasons no one would believe me. Well it's true, Seabrook has put up nearly as many points as RNH..

Seabrook - 109 points, 230 gp

RNH - 113 points, 189 gp

RNH is the younger player and a forward so one would think he would have scored significantly more points than Seabrook even playing 41 less games (18%) but that's just not the case.

My point is Seabrook has been getting raw deal recently, now he's not even mentioned as one of the best current players from the 2003 draft - it's a travesty - it's criminal.

It's amazing how much a contract can minimize what a player does on ice and in some situations get them degraded.

The assumption always is bad contract = worse player.

It appears the only reason why RNH is worth 6 per is because he's 25 and Seabrook isn't because he's 33.

I mean there should be no reason why a 33-year-old defenseman is even close in scoring with a 25-year-old "star player" and former first overall pick. Yet here is the evidence and it's the 33-year-old defenseman that routinely gets thrown under the bus.

So yea, that's what I think about the way Seabrook is treated, lol.
Mar. 17, 2018 at 7:09 p.m.
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Quoting: HawksFan28
Even at this point:

Seabrook>Phaneuf
Seabrook>Methot

Seabrook gets no love anymore.

The guy may be overpaid but he's not terrible, now.

Lets put Seabrook into perspective - I'm sure if I told a hockey fan that Seabrook has put up nearly as many points as RNH over the last 3 seasons no one would believe me. Well it's true, Seabrook has put up nearly as many points as RNH..

Seabrook - 109 points, 230 gp

RNH - 113 points, 189 gp

RNH is the younger player and a forward so one would think he would have scored significantly more points than Seabrook even playing 41 less games (18%) but that's just not the case.

My point is Seabrook has been getting raw deal recently, now he's not even mentioned as one of the best current players from the 2003 draft - it's a travesty - it's criminal.

It's amazing how much a contract can minimize what a player does on ice and in some situations get them degraded.

The assumption always is bad contract = worse player.

It appears the only reason why RNH is worth 6 per is because he's 25 and Seabrook isn't because he's 33.

I mean there should be no reason why a 33-year-old defenseman is even close in scoring with a 25-year-old "star player" and former first overall pick. Yet here is the evidence and it's the 33-year-old defenseman that routinely gets thrown under the bus.

So yea, that's what I think about the way Seabrook is treated, lol.


fair point, but to take data from the past 3 years to evaluate seabrook's current ability isnt accurate. he has clearly been trending down the past few years, going from 0.6 P/GP to 0.49 P/GP to 0.30 P/GP (I realize its somewhat unfair to judge based only on offensive stats and point totals, but its just an indicator of his downward trend).


but i agree with you:
now looking at methot's and phaneuf's stats, i completely agree seabrook is better, but tbh when i made this team i just slotted in the LHD on the left side and RHD on the right side

i dont think seabrook is complete trash, but he certainly isnt what he used to be
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Mar. 17, 2018 at 7:37 p.m.
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fair point, but to take data from the past 3 years to evaluate seabrook's current ability isnt accurate. he has clearly been trending down the past few years, going from 0.6 P/GP to 0.49 P/GP to 0.30 P/GP (I realize its somewhat unfair to judge based only on offensive stats and point totals, but its just an indicator of his downward trend).


but i agree with you:
now looking at methot's and phaneuf's stats, i completely agree seabrook is better, but tbh when i made this team i just slotted in the LHD on the left side and RHD on the right side

i dont think seabrook is complete trash, but he certainly isnt what he used to be


Well, I wasn't trying be be disingenuous by using the last 3 years, I think the last 3 years are what's relevant for comparing players. I mean it's hard to compare careers, and I wasn't trying to do that so that's why I used 3 years.

Also, the previous 2 years have been some of Seabrook's best as far as offensive production. He scored 49 points in 15-16 and 39 points in 16-17.. Not too shabby for a defenseman eh?

It's kinda weird how that works all because of his contract, lol.

I felt obligated to write that about Seabrook lol.... The other day one poster called Seabrook "AHL fodder" and other called him a "5h defenseman on a bad team".... So yea, it can get kinda irritating seeing a very good defensman get slandered like that all because he has a "bad" contract...

It's almost like Seabrook is a bad high school rumor lol..

Sure, Seabrook isn't what he used to be - he's slowing down a bit but the notion that he's not a legitimate top 4 defenseman on any team in the league is just laughable... Any team would love to have him and he could bring a lot to several young teams in this league that are young and trying to win - I mean his leadership I feel is something that's going to waste here in Chicago with all the leaders the Hawks have...

But yea, Seabrook is still a legitimate top 4 defenseman - sure he's had a down year but who hasn't on the Blackhawks this season? Schmaltz and DeBrincat and they're rookies so even Hawks fans don't really know if they're having good seasons because we have nothing to compare them to, lol.
 
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