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Who holds more value, Slavin or Hanifin?

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CAR and BUF have been linked as trade partners forever for obvious reasons.

I’m just wondering out loud, which LHD is more valuable? Hanifin has the higher ceiling, yet Slavin has been a really reliable guy against top competition. Does the presence of Jake Bean and Fleury change anything?

Is there a deal for either one that makes sense?

Just curious
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Mar. 19, 2018 at 1:40 p.m.
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I don't get to watch that many Canes games but I think of Slavin as the superior player. Part of it might be the subtle disappointment I see in Hanifin considering the early success of other picks in his draft. Not saying he was the wrong pick at the time, but he's been overtaken by Provorov, Werenksi, Chabot. Still a good player, but I'd build a team around Slavin before Hanifin.
Mar. 19, 2018 at 1:45 p.m.
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Mar. 19, 2018 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: A_K
I don't get to watch that many Canes games but I think of Slavin as the superior player. Part of it might be the subtle disappointment I see in Hanifin considering the early success of other picks in his draft. Not saying he was the wrong pick at the time, but he's been overtaken by Provorov, Werenksi, Chabot. Still a good player, but I'd build a team around Slavin before Hanifin.


Hes for sure better than slavin anfhasnt been overtaken by any of them he was an all star this season werenski has been in a sophomore slump all year, hes definitely been better than chabot all year, and provorov is debatable
Mar. 19, 2018 at 1:51 p.m.
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Hes for sure better than slavin anfhasnt been overtaken by any of them he was an all star this season werenski has been in a sophomore slump all year, hes definitely been better than chabot all year, and provorov is debatable


Werenski is still outscoring Hanifin (5v5 and all situations) despite what you're calling a sophomore slump. He's also trusted with almost 23 min per night vs Hanifin's 19ish. Could be a correlation with production:ice time, but I'd take the guy who earns the time. Provorov is the no. 1 on a playoff team, Hanifin is the no. 3 on a non-playoff team. Chabot has a higher offensive ceiling than Hanifin. I stand by my comment.
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Mar. 19, 2018 at 1:52 p.m.
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Quoting: A_K
Werenski is still outscoring Hanifin (5v5 and all situations) despite what you're calling a sophomore slump. He's also trusted with almost 23 min per night vs Hanifin's 19ish. Could be a correlation with production:ice time, but I'd take the guy who earns the time. Provorov is the no. 1 on a playoff team, Hanifin is the no. 3 on a non-playoff team. Chabot has a higher offensive ceiling than Hanifin. I stand by my comment.


Your opinion, fair enough.
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Mar. 19, 2018 at 1:55 p.m.
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I can't see a reality where Salvin is available from a Canes standpoint. As a Canes homer he is just about as untouchable as Aho and is beloved by the fan base. It would take a massive overpayment for either of them though I would think Hanifin is more accessible to trade but it would cost a similarly aged/pedigree player (No not ROR.) The ask for either of them from BUF would start with Eichel as silly as I'm sure that sounds. The LD we would most be willing to trade are Fluery and Bean who both have top 4 potential. Idk why people **** on Fluery, he had a great year and made very little mistakes without having a real mentor to guide him as a rookie on a very young Canes D (literally our oldest D is 26.)
Mar. 19, 2018 at 1:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Rcsherwo
I can't see a reality where Salvin is available from a Canes standpoint. As a Canes homer he is just about as untouchable as Aho and is beloved by the fan base. It would take a massive overpayment for either of them though I would think Hanifin is more accessible to trade but it would cost a similarly aged/pedigree player (No not ROR.) The ask for either of them from BUF would start with Eichel as silly as I'm sure that sounds. The LD we would most be willing to trade are Fluery and Bean who both have top 4 potential. Idk why people **** on Fluery, he had a great year and made very little mistakes without having a real mentor to guide him as a rookie on a very young Canes D (literally our oldest D

Yeah... Eichel is not going to happen.... he is much more valuable than both of them
Mar. 19, 2018 at 2:02 p.m.
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I’ve always thought that’s mittelstadt would be the price for Hanifin... I know that’s plasphemy but that’s what it probably costs
Mar. 19, 2018 at 2:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Jbarre6
I’ve always thought that’s mittelstadt would be the price for Hanifin... I know that’s plasphemy but that’s what it probably costs


Blaphemy*
Mar. 19, 2018 at 2:05 p.m.
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Quoting: A_K
Werenski is still outscoring Hanifin (5v5 and all situations) despite what you're calling a sophomore slump. He's also trusted with almost 23 min per night vs Hanifin's 19ish. Could be a correlation with production:ice time, but I'd take the guy who earns the time. Provorov is the no. 1 on a playoff team, Hanifin is the no. 3 on a non-playoff team. Chabot has a higher offensive ceiling than Hanifin. I stand by my comment.


I'd agree with this.

1. Provorov
2. Werenski

Chabot looks like he could be 3 on this list but would need to see a full season of him to properly assess with the rest of this class.

I'd give Hanifin the slight nod over Slavin in terms of value. Both look to be terrific d-men but I'd take the guy who's putting up similar numbers and is 2 years younger.
Mar. 19, 2018 at 2:09 p.m.
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I think Hanifin > Slavin in terms of value for most GM's, but I personally prefer Slavin. If you dig deep into Hanifin's advanced stats, it shows he's a big contributor to Carolina's defensive woes. Slavin is not. Then again, it depends on if the team absolutely needs an offensive powerhouse and can tolerate the defensive lapses while he matures...
Mar. 19, 2018 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Jbarre6
Blaphemy*


It's probably not far off. You're talking a 5th overall D-man with a couple years of seasoning in Hanifin for an 8th overall centreman who could form a solid 1-2-3 punch up the middle with Eichel and ROR for years to come.

Teams that can go 3-deep at Centre can get by with an ok Defence. If your D could stay healthy you'd have a solid core and could focus on wings/goalie.
Mar. 19, 2018 at 2:51 p.m.
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Jeeeesh...Looking at that roster makes my head hurt. Sorry Buffalo, you guys are in trouble for a bit...

Hanifin > Slavin.
Mar. 19, 2018 at 3:24 p.m.
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Hanifin comes through better because of his potential.
And because he’s Batman.
Mar. 19, 2018 at 3:37 p.m.
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Any smart Canes fan knows Slavin >>> Hanifin.
Mar. 19, 2018 at 4:16 p.m.
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Hanifin's value is higher simply because he hasn't reached his potential yet and there is growing belief he will in coming years. BUT if we are talking about the superior player right now, its Slavin. Does that really matter though?

Its the reason why we value prospects so much. Because of the odds of them being better than another player at a certain position. Eventually.

Right now? Slavin. Probably in the future soon? Hanifin.

Strictly on trade value, I think most will say Hanifin but Slavin's contract is a really solid asset.
 
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