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Tavares + Gallagher + Tkachuk

Created by: Tkachinla
Team: 2018-19 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 19, 2018
Published: Mar. 19, 2018
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Description
Monahan <> Gallagher
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- Monahan is a 1st line Center
- Monahan is 2 years younger (23 years old)
- Monahan has averaged over 60 points last 4 seasons (twice over 30 goals)
- Monahan was a 6th overall draft pick
- Monahan is on an excellent contract for 5 years

- Gallagher is a Winger
- Gallagher has never gone over 50 points
- Gallagher was a 5th round draft pick
- Gallagher is on a very good contract for 3 years

Due to the above, MTL has to add significant value to the deal (a top 10 pick in 2018 should suffice).


Tavares
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Pretty strong price to pay for the rights to Tavares. Subject to Tavares and NYI mutually parting ways prior to the draft.


Tkachuk
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ARI, BUF, VAN, DET, OTT are all candidates for this trade for CGY to move up in the draft. 1st overall and Dahlin are, of course, out of the question.

Price is likely in the "conversation" range, given that teams would be moving back 2-6 spots depending on how the lottery shakes out.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$750,000
2$1,950,000
3$900,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$900,000
1$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$750,000
1$750,000
1$1,000,000
8$11,500,000
Tkachuk, Brady
3$925,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Gallagher, Brendan
Additional Details:
2018 1st round pick (MTL, #4-8)
2.
CGY
    Rights to F John Tavares
    NYI
    1. Bennett, Sam
    2. Wotherspoon, Tyler
    3. 2019 1st round pick (CGY)
    3.
    CGY
      2018 1st round pick (BUF, #2-4)

      CGY Selects: F Brady Tkachuk
      BUF
      1. Hrivík, Marek
      2. Kylington, Oliver
      Additional Details:
      2018 1st round pick (MTL, #4-8)
      Buyouts
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2019
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      2020
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      Logo of the CGY
      Logo of the CGY
      Logo of the CGY
      Logo of the CGY
      Logo of the CGY
      2021
      Logo of the CGY
      Logo of the CGY
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      24$80,000,000$71,320,876$0$1,115,000$8,679,124
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
      $6,750,000$6,750,000
      LW
      UFA - 4
      $11,500,000$11,500,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 7
      $3,750,000$3,750,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 3
      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
      RW
      UFA - 1
      $5,350,000$5,350,000
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 6
      $4,300,000$4,300,000
      LW, RW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Tkachuk, Brady
      $925,000$925,000
      $1,950,000$1,950,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 2
      $1,750,000$1,750,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      $1,000,000$1,000,000
      LW, RW
      UFA
      $778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
      LW, RW, C
      RFA - 3
      $850,000$850,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      $950,000$950,000
      RW, C
      UFA - 1
      $850,000$850,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      $3,375,000$3,375,000
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      $5,750,000$5,750,000
      RD
      UFA - 3
      $4,250,000$4,250,000
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      $4,650,400$4,650,400
      LD/RD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      $3,857,143$3,857,143
      RD
      UFA - 2
      $900,000$900,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      $3,500,000$3,500,000
      RD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      $850,000$850,000
      G
      UFA - 2
      $900,000$900,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 1
      $755,833$755,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
      RD
      UFA - 2

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      Mar. 19, 2018 at 4:15 p.m.
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      Now this would make the BOA interesting (if Calgary doesn't get relocated) I don't usually rate nor like things on here from Calgary fans but this is fun and very interesting props to you man
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      Mar. 19, 2018 at 4:31 p.m.
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      If that MTL pick is higher than 6th, than i think I might consider it. If not, I just can't see it. 1-6th are all pretty high end players who could be better than both Gallagher or Monahan.
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      Mar. 19, 2018 at 4:46 p.m.
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      I don't understand paying that price for Tavares' rights without a contract extension already in place. Way too much risk, without any real upside.

      Other than that, I like the rest of what you've done here. I would probably try to also move Michael Stone, maybe with Monahan, and let Andersson play up in his spot.
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      Mar. 19, 2018 at 4:50 p.m.
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      Tavares is a UFA so i don’t understand why you would have to give up that much for his rights. I do like everything else here though. I don’t think they actually will make a push for Brady but i wish they would!
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      Mar. 19, 2018 at 5:36 p.m.
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      So basically kylington and boqvist/hughes for tkachuk. Its probably close value wise but i wouldnt do it from buffalos side.
      Mar. 19, 2018 at 5:59 p.m.
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      From Mtl: I like the Idea... but need to be No1 OA protected for Dahlin.
      Otherwise: Gally + Tkachuck for Monahan= it's a GO!
      Mtl have plenty of second rnd pick and/or they can trade Pacioretty for a high 1st + Young NHLers. (L.A. Kempe +1st)
      Mar. 19, 2018 at 6:05 p.m.
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      The Montrealer in me would be inclined to say yes, though somewhat reluctantly. So here's my question to Oilers fans: Would Gallagher and this #1 pick shake loose Draisaitl? The points are almost identical. Monahan's contract is a little nicer.

      I think the complaints about overpaying for JT's rights are correct. And if I were Montreal, I would probably try to swing the earlier deal in such a way as to get Bennett, too.
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      Mar. 19, 2018 at 6:08 p.m.
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      That cap hit in 2021 is going to be a tsunami. It might be anyway, but that's a lot of players to sign for big $
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      Mar. 19, 2018 at 6:25 p.m.
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      No team is going to help Calgary get Brady Tkachuk unless the ask is enormous, If Detroit takes him he's automatically be our #2C after Larkin #1C no way would we deal him to Calgary unless the ask was extremely high.
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      Mar. 22, 2018 at 8:57 a.m.
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      Quoting: Larkinisking
      No team is going to help Calgary get Brady Tkachuk unless the ask is enormous, If Detroit takes him he's automatically be our #2C after Larkin #1C no way would we deal him to Calgary unless the ask was extremely high.


      You see Brady Tkachuk as a centre? Never heard that option. If it is, Habs would have to consider that.
      Mar. 22, 2018 at 8:59 a.m.
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      You see Brady Tkachuk as a centre? Never heard that option. If it is, Habs would have to consider that.


      Yeah he's more or less a LW Center isn't really an option for him. My bad.
      Mar. 22, 2018 at 9:07 a.m.
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      Quoting: Larkinisking
      Yeah he's more or less a LW Center isn't really an option for him. My bad.


      I wish you had said there was a C lurking in there. That size and dangle, he'd be amazing. I wonder if he'd be worth drafting and sending to London for a year playing centre in the OHL.
      Mar. 22, 2018 at 9:21 a.m.
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      I wish you had said there was a C lurking in there. That size and dangle, he'd be amazing. I wonder if he'd be worth drafting and sending to London for a year playing centre in the OHL.


      I know on his profile page that he's listed as a Centerman, But pretty much everyone agrees that he's really not a Center but a Left Winger. And that's what he would probably be in Detroit as well if they were to draft him.
      Mar. 22, 2018 at 9:28 a.m.
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      Quoting: Larkinisking
      I know on his profile page that he's listed as a Centerman, But pretty much everyone agrees that he's really not a Center but a Left Winger. And that's what he would probably be in Detroit as well if they were to draft him.


      Do they need an LW? Wouldn't it be better for the Wings to trade down and get one of those 4-5 stud defencemen in the 5-10 range?
      Mar. 22, 2018 at 9:35 a.m.
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      Do they need an LW? Wouldn't it be better for the Wings to trade down and get one of those 4-5 stud defencemen in the 5-10 range?


      Yep that's probably what we would do, Trade down get the extra pick i'm really high on Evan Bouchard and Noah Dobson if we don't get a top 5 pick or so. Both should be in our range right now anywhere from the #6 to #8 overall pick.
      Mar. 22, 2018 at 10:03 a.m.
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      I like the rationale. Montreal would do well to make that deal and get a young C. If you're stuck with Price and Weber for the next several years, you need to find your C now. Unless they see one in the draft that can immediately step into the NHL, I think they'd do that deal.

      I'll assume the Tavares deal would need to be conditional on him actually signing. Otherwise that's too much risk. So Calgary and NYI agree in principle on a deal, NYI gives CGY permission to talk to JT. They agree and the deal goes thru.

      The only thing that doesn't make a ton of sense to me is drafting Brady. I get the whole purpose of this AGM team is for fun and to get the brothers together...but it's kind of a large price to trade up and draft a guy that slots in your 3rd line and brings the same style that Matthew already does. Now if they could each play either wing and play on the same line together, that could be fun to watch.
      Mar. 23, 2018 at 5:57 p.m.
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      Quoting: Larkinisking
      No team is going to help Calgary get Brady Tkachuk unless the ask is enormous, If Detroit takes him he's automatically be our #2C after Larkin #1C no way would we deal him to Calgary unless the ask was extremely high.


      1) DET might have a later pick than MTL. They currently sit just behind MTL on that front.

      2) B. Tkachuk hasn't been playing center recently. He didn't play it at the WJC (LW) and he doesn't regularly (again, LW). So, why would he all of a sudden be playing C at the NHL level? That's usually not how it works. DET is also most likely shopping for dmen at the #5-8 spot in the draft anyways. You'd probably agree. With all that in mind, I don't see DET (or other teams) drafting Tkachuk just to spite CGY in the draft.
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      Mar. 23, 2018 at 5:59 p.m.
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      Quoting: Juice

      The only thing that doesn't make a ton of sense to me is drafting Brady. I get the whole purpose of this AGM team is for fun and to get the brothers together...but it's kind of a large price to trade up and draft a guy that slots in your 3rd line and brings the same style that Matthew already does. Now if they could each play either wing and play on the same line together, that could be fun to watch.


      If you've watched Matthew Tkachuk this year or last, you'll see why CGY would be smart to have both guys on the team. If Brady is anything like his older brother, then you're getting a capable puck possession player who can be offensive and also somehow convinces players to come back onto the ice to fight for 10-game suspensions. If you have two of those players, you would split them up and have a series of Tkachuk waves that infuriate teams.

      CGY having both Tkachuk's would quickly become one of the most hated teams in the league.
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      Mar. 23, 2018 at 6:09 p.m.
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      From my perspective. If MTL can draft one of Dahlin, Tkachuk, Zadina, Svechnikov, Bouchard, they don't do this deal. All those guys have the potential to be worth more than Monahan, If MTL fall out of the top 5. then I think if they were to keep the pick I would see them going for a Center like Wahlstrom or Hayton. and I can see one of them + Gallagher for Monahan be a great deal for both sides.
      Mar. 23, 2018 at 8:00 p.m.
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      Quoting: Vanderm
      1) DET might have a later pick than MTL. They currently sit just behind MTL on that front.

      2) B. Tkachuk hasn't been playing center recently. He didn't play it at the WJC (LW) and he doesn't regularly (again, LW). So, why would he all of a sudden be playing C at the NHL level? That's usually not how it works. DET is also most likely shopping for dmen at the #5-8 spot in the draft anyways. You'd probably agree. With all that in mind, I don't see DET (or other teams) drafting Tkachuk just to spite CGY in the draft.


      True just depends on how the lottery balls fall, If Detroit or Montreal get a better pick. With Detroit's luck i don't see us getting a top 3 pick probably in the 6-9 range as of right now. And you're correct Detroit would never ltake a player just to spite another team that's not how Ken Holland operates. Detroit definitely goes D unless they get either #2 or #3 then they go either Svechnikov or Zadina i can see Detroit going with one of three D men Evan Bouchard, Noah Dobson or Ty Smith if they pick late like #7-#9 but hopefully we get a better pick then that.
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      Mar. 23, 2018 at 8:26 p.m.
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      Not too bad IMO...

      If Calgary is going to move a stud like Monahan and a few other assets then it would be in a situation like this
       
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