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Toronto Maple Leafs - Signing Tavares

Created by: darrylking
Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 20, 2018
Published: Mar. 20, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,000,000
4$1,800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$11,000,000
1$2,000,000
1$1,500,000
Trades
TOR
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Martin, Matt
  2. 2019 4th round pick (STL)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$78,000,000$75,170,833$2,550,000$4,550,000$2,829,167

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
UFA - 6
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
$863,333$863,333
RW
UFA - 1
$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 4
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$850,000$850,000
G
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1

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Mar. 20, 2018 at 11:13 a.m.
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Good Luck signing Matthews, Marner, and Kapanen with $5.4 in the cap. I agree that the Matthews, Tavares combo would be deadly but the leafs would eventually turn into the Hawks with too much money invested in top players that prevents from adding key pieces. Gardiner and Hainsey are the only notable contracts expiring after the year and combined they only account for $7 which is like 75% of Matthews' contract... let alone Marner and Kapanen
Mar. 20, 2018 at 11:30 a.m.
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Quoting: jayjenkins
Good Luck signing Matthews, Marner, and Kapanen with $5.4 in the cap. I agree that the Matthews, Tavares combo would be deadly but the leafs would eventually turn into the Hawks with too much money invested in top players that prevents from adding key pieces. Gardiner and Hainsey are the only notable contracts expiring after the year and combined they only account for $7 which is like 75% of Matthews' contract... let alone Marner and Kapanen


I feel like this is one of those where the team is good enough for one year that you just accept losing some guys. Like, you trade away Kapanen to get rid of Marleau's stupid contract and get enough cap space to keep Matthews, but by that point you've already won a Cup in spite of Patrick Marleau, so he's either retiring or his trade value is at an all time high.

Yes. Good players cost money and the salary cap places a limit on how many one can have at a time. But the teams that do the best aren't the ones that never lose anyone good. Except Pittsburgh. But they're just ridiculous. Most of the teams thatwin anything do so with a mix of overpaid veterans and underpaid great young players and then if the salary cap stays the same, they lose a lot of players, and shrug.

The Caps won the regular season for the last two straight years. This summer they lost Schmidt, Alzner, Shattenkirk, Williams, and Winnik. So what are they doing about it? Leading their division.

It's reminiscent of Lamoriello's teams in New Jersey that had a publicized policy of never re-signing their own UFAs. That worked for them because his NJ teams were so good, collectively, that players did better there than elsewhere, so their contract value and their trade value both went up just by being part of his teams.

I don't know if anyone can get Tavares that cheap, but I think he'd have fun playing in this kind of a lineup. Of course, as a Caps fan, I can think of one place he'd get to play with some better wingers, but... he's a free person. He'll land wherever he thinks he can be happiest.
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Mar. 20, 2018 at 11:31 a.m.
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Leafs should focus on a defenseman instead of another high scoring forward.
Mar. 20, 2018 at 11:38 a.m.
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I agree with BreKel the Leafs need to focus on their D then signing another expensive C like Tavares.
Mar. 20, 2018 at 11:39 a.m.
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Quoting: BreKel
Leafs should focus on a defenseman instead of another high scoring forward.


Agree with you, and why should the Leafs even "force" a long term expensive this summer. Wait to 2019, see who's signed and see how much money is left over for possible big UFA signing. Most of good teams still have their own drafted players, Leafs look they are going that route too, it might be the only way.
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Mar. 20, 2018 at 11:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Eli
I feel like this is one of those where the team is good enough for one year that you just accept losing some guys. Like, you trade away Kapanen to get rid of Marleau's stupid contract and get enough cap space to keep Matthews, but by that point you've already won a Cup in spite of Patrick Marleau, so he's either retiring or his trade value is at an all time high.

Yes. Good players cost money and the salary cap places a limit on how many one can have at a time. But the teams that do the best aren't the ones that never lose anyone good. Except Pittsburgh. But they're just ridiculous. Most of the teams thatwin anything do so with a mix of overpaid veterans and underpaid great young players and then if the salary cap stays the same, they lose a lot of players, and shrug.

The Caps won the regular season for the last two straight years. This summer they lost Schmidt, Alzner, Shattenkirk, Williams, and Winnik. So what are they doing about it? Leading their division.

It's reminiscent of Lamoriello's teams in New Jersey that had a publicized policy of never re-signing their own UFAs. That worked for them because his NJ teams were so good, collectively, that players did better there than elsewhere, so their contract value and their trade value both went up just by being part of his teams.

I don't know if anyone can get Tavares that cheap, but I think he'd have fun playing in this kind of a lineup. Of course, as a Caps fan, I can think of one place he'd get to play with some better wingers, but... he's a free person. He'll land wherever he thinks he can be happiest.


Quoting: jayjenkins
Good Luck signing Matthews, Marner, and Kapanen with $5.4 in the cap. I agree that the Matthews, Tavares combo would be deadly but the leafs would eventually turn into the Hawks with too much money invested in top players that prevents from adding key pieces. Gardiner and Hainsey are the only notable contracts expiring after the year and combined they only account for $7 which is like 75% of Matthews' contract... let alone Marner and Kapanen


Working on the 2019-2020 cap-hell scenario right now, which I find the most curious part of this entire question. Lots of uncertainty, but I'm interested in seeing whether it's even in the ballpark. Having those three centres would cover up a ton of blemishes, and may perhaps be a better setup than Chicago's in which they have been anchored by a centre and a winger. Furthermore, eventually turning into the Hawks is not the worst thing, right? I mean, they won three cups on the ride. I'd take that.
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Mar. 20, 2018 at 12:29 p.m.
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Quoting: darrylking
Working on the 2019-2020 cap-hell scenario right now, which I find the most curious part of this entire question. Lots of uncertainty, but I'm interested in seeing whether it's even in the ballpark. Having those three centres would cover up a ton of blemishes, and may perhaps be a better setup than Chicago's in which they have been anchored by a centre and a winger. Furthermore, eventually turning into the Hawks is not the worst thing, right? I mean, they won three cups on the ride. I'd take that.


Actually didn't need to use LTIR for Horton in this scenario. Should free up some cap space in 19-20.
Mar. 20, 2018 at 12:51 p.m.
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I just vomited everywhere after you decided you wanted to acquire a second round pick for Matt Martin and a 4th without retaining salary
Mar. 20, 2018 at 1:01 p.m.
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I just vomited everywhere after you decided you wanted to acquire a second round pick for Matt Martin and a 4th without retaining salary


Caps fans are similarly divided on Brooks Orpik, who has more hits this year, and can play 18 minutes a night reasonably well (but not, as the Caps proved early in this season, 20 anymore). The leafs, unless they actually sign Tavares, have cap space for Orpik next season and he might even be an upgrade over Polak. But Orpik's contract has one year left, so it's gone before Matthews' new contract starts.

The Caps obvioulsy would swap straight up because they have five NHL left defensemen and need cap space for Carlson.
 
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