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What if they traded this year 1st

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Team: 2018-19 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 24, 2018
Published: Mar. 24, 2018
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So if they rid themselves of Lucic by trading the 1st. I know longterm they may lose on the trade but Kreider is a quality top 6 power forward and would complement McDavid. So with RNH and Krieder in place the forwards are solidified and they have capspace to make more moves without doing what Chicago is doing by trading quality for more or less junk. I do think this might ibtrigue NYR seeing they are clearly in rebuild for the next 5-6 years and the 1st will be part of the building block and Kreider probably leaves in 2 years to a contender.
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Mar. 24, 2018 at 9:26 a.m.
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Zac Rinaldo shakes head
Mar. 24, 2018 at 9:33 a.m.
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Love the idea.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 9:41 a.m.
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I suspect there'd be a few teams lining up for this deal.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 9:58 a.m.
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If they could pull this off good for the NYR re-build and the Oilers
Mar. 24, 2018 at 10:51 a.m.
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Like the idea but do you think the Rangers will eventually trade, buyout, or waive Lucic?
Mar. 24, 2018 at 10:57 a.m.
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NYR would NEVER do this deal; and neither would Lucic grin (full ntc until 2021)
Mar. 24, 2018 at 11:45 a.m.
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Probably what it would cost, but NYR have opened up some cap space and I really think they're going to be the favorites for Tavares in a couple of months.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 12:17 p.m.
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Can Montreal do something like this instead?
Mar. 24, 2018 at 12:17 p.m.
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That's gonna be a negative for the Rangers, Kreider has played really well this year, and there's no guarantee that that draft pick will be as good, or better, than him. On top of that, Kreider alone would be worth that first, so you'd have to add more to add in Lucic.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 2:02 p.m.
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That's gonna be a negative for the Rangers, Kreider has played really well this year, and there's no guarantee that that draft pick will be as good, or better, than him. On top of that, Kreider alone would be worth that first, so you'd have to add more to add in Lucic.


Well seeing the 1st at a tradedealone move would be 25 to 31 and edmontons is a top 10 its actually a better pick. I cpuld see another pick or prospect to finidh the deal.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 2:03 p.m.
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Probably what it would cost, but NYR have opened up some cap space and I really think they're going to be the favorites for Tavares in a couple of months.


I doubt Tavares will go to to Rangers cause of the rebuild
Mar. 24, 2018 at 2:05 p.m.
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He was just random pick its just a depth player
Mar. 24, 2018 at 2:06 p.m.
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If they could pull this off good for the NYR re-build and the Oilers


I agree lucic will be hone once the rebuild is finished and if they can resurect his point totals in tge final year he's trade bait.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 2:09 p.m.
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NYR would NEVER do this deal; and neither would Lucic grin (full ntc until 2021)


The thing is NYR are in rebuild and need quality picks. LUCIC Might seeing how he played in the east and it might be the travel that is affecting him
Mar. 24, 2018 at 2:29 p.m.
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I doubt Tavares will go to to Rangers cause of the rebuild


I see it less as a "rebuild" and more of a quick "retool". The one big loss is McDonagh, but they managed to get a whole lot back in that deal. They got value for Nash and Grabner too. Lots of interesting pieces, cap space, and a great goaltender. Even their D is alright. A couple of tweaks and they're back in it. Plus Tavares. Yeehaw.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 2:31 p.m.
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The thing is NYR are in rebuild and need quality picks. LUCIC Might seeing how he played in the east and it might be the travel that is affecting him


They also need younger players and play a fast system- so they need speedier skaters. why would they take on lucic's horrible contract and give up their top LW who has developed a relationship w mika? lucic does not fit the system, is 3 years older than kreider and another pick will not justify kreider for lucic. they have enough picks and they received many solid prospects from boston and tampa. it would take another higher round pick to make that deal

lucic will not want to give up a chance at the cup. with mcdavid, oilers have a better chance to win than the rangers right now.
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Mar. 24, 2018 at 2:43 p.m.
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They also need younger players and play a fast system- so they need speedier skaters. why would they take on lucic's horrible contract and give up their top LW who has developed a relationship w mika? lucic does not fit the system, is 3 years older than kreider and another pick will not justify kreider for lucic. they have enough picks and they received many solid prospects from boston and tampa. it would take another higher round pick to make that deal

lucic will not want to give up a chance at the cup. with mcdavid, oilers have a better chance to win than the rangers right now.


Yes but in 2 years Kreider probably leaves so would they lose more. This is a really strong draft ive read articles where people think even a top 10 pick is more or less a top 5 pick anyother year so would longterm NYR better off getting an elite prospect. Lucic isn't stupid and would he really have shot at a cup if they need to trade RNH, Draisaitl, Nurse, or Kelfelbom instead. Yes it might tough pill to swallow but it i do think he might by now realize that he is not the same player and is part of the problem to the solution.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 2:47 p.m.
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Yes but in 2 years Kreider probably leaves so would they lose more. This is a really strong draft ive read articles where people think even a top 10 pick is more or less a top 5 pick anyother year so would longterm NYR better off getting an elite prospect. Lucic isn't stupid and would he really have shot at a cup if they need to trade RNH, Draisaitl, Nurse, or Kelfelbom instead. Yes it might tough pill to swallow but it i do think he might by now realize that he is not the same player and is part of the problem to the solution.


If I'm EDM I want to move Lucic too I think you have the right idea. I just do not think he'd accept a trade to a rebuilding team. It's an interesting trade but I am not so sure that NYR would want to part with Kreider that easily.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 2:51 p.m.
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I see it less as a "rebuild" and more of a quick "retool". The one big loss is McDonagh, but they managed to get a whole lot back in that deal. They got value for Nash and Grabner too. Lots of interesting pieces, cap space, and a great goaltender. Even their D is alright. A couple of tweaks and they're back in it. Plus Tavares. Yeehaw.


The problem is though they have some pieces if this was like MTL and a retool they wouldn't have traded their Captain and young forwards to tampa. Yes tge return was great but has it made them play better? Tavares will end up with a guaranteed contender not a team with alot of question marks. Yes Lindquist is a great player but their d is a solid not great, their forward depth is non existent. Also, they have talked more pain than we are contending next year.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 3:30 p.m.
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If I'm EDM I want to move Lucic too I think you have the right idea. I just do not think he'd accept a trade to a rebuilding team. It's an interesting trade but I am not so sure that NYR would want to part with Kreider that easily.


The idea was more trading lucic and this years 1st for a physical strong skating top 6 winger. Yes this may not be the team but i could see a few teams kicking the tires if edmonton is willing to part with the 1st seeing lucic is really only overpaid by bout 2 million. But to me this is very similar to what the leafs did to speed up the rebuild. So i could see edmonton retaining 2 million to get this done.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 4:46 p.m.
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The idea was more trading lucic and this years 1st for a physical strong skating top 6 winger. Yes this may not be the team but i could see a few teams kicking the tires if edmonton is willing to part with the 1st seeing lucic is really only overpaid by bout 2 million. But to me this is very similar to what the leafs did to speed up the rebuild. So i could see edmonton retaining 2 million to get this done.


Yeah it's a good idea, but i figured it'd be more for pacioretty (and hope to resign him)

outside the box may be calling up the kings and seeing what the price is for carter or pearson, and maybe looking into jenner
Mar. 24, 2018 at 4:50 p.m.
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The problem is though they have some pieces if this was like MTL and a retool they wouldn't have traded their Captain and young forwards to tampa. Yes tge return was great but has it made them play better? Tavares will end up with a guaranteed contender not a team with alot of question marks. Yes Lindquist is a great player but their d is a solid not great, their forward depth is non existent. Also, they have talked more pain than we are contending next year.


I guess we just have to look at which contending teams have the space to sign him? Because there aren't a whole bunch of them out there.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 5:08 p.m.
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I guess we just have to look at which contending teams have the space to sign him? Because there aren't a whole bunch of them out there.


Well, MTL, Vagas, i've heard NSH are interested and will trade Johnsson to get it done. I'm not saying the Rangers are the least likely to get him but they are clearly looking at the future not short term with comments like "we had a good run" (which Sather said) then this season was a blip and we will contend for a cup by next season. Having lucic will help seeing he is a quality leader if they can get him to come and will be a great mentor to the younger players.
Mar. 25, 2018 at 9:02 a.m.
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Well, MTL, Vagas, i've heard NSH are interested and will trade Johnsson to get it done. I'm not saying the Rangers are the least likely to get him but they are clearly looking at the future not short term with comments like "we had a good run" (which Sather said) then this season was a blip and we will contend for a cup by next season. Having lucic will help seeing he is a quality leader if they can get him to come and will be a great mentor to the younger players.


People currently on the Rangers who are quality leaders who can mentor younger players: Lundqvist, Kreider, Staal, Zuccarello, Spooner, Shatty, etc. Like, getting Lucic doesn't really make that huge difference leadership-wise that you seem to think. Also, is Montreal in a better position to sign Tavares? Did they somehow become a contender overnight without anyone noticing? And Nashville having to trade Johanssen to even have a shot at having room to sign him? That's a pretty big leap for the Preds to make without the guarantee that he's coming. You're giving up a lot with that early first, but taking that contract and giving you Kreider doesn't make a whole ton of sense.
 
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