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draft trade for patch

Created by: MTLaveragefan
Team: 2017-18 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 26, 2018
Published: Mar. 26, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Borgstrom, henrik
3$900,000
Poelhing, Ryan
3$900,000
Evans, jake
3$900,000
Hughes, Quinn
3$900,000
veleno, joe
3$900,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2018 6th round pick (DAL)
2.
MTL
  1. Matheson, Michael
  2. 2018 1st round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
rights to Henrik Borgstrom
FLA
  1. Pacioretty, Max
  2. Reilly, Mike
  3. Shaw, Andrew
  4. 2018 2nd round pick (TOR)
  5. 2018 2nd round pick (WSH)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$75,000,000$57,125,475$0$607,500$17,874,525
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$650,000$650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$4,900,000$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
$912,500$912,500
C
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$839,166$839,166
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Poelhing, Ryan
$900,000$900,000
$1,166,667$1,166,667
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$725,000$725,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$725,000$725,000
LW
UFA - 1
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Borgstrom, henrik
$900,000$900,000
Evans, jake
$900,000$900,000
veleno, joe
$900,000$900,000
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 9
$6,500,000$6,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
$748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 3
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$863,333$863,333
RD
UFA - 3
Hughes, Quinn
$900,000$900,000
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1

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Mar. 26, 2018 at 2:56 p.m.
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As a MTL fan I say yes considering that it adresses our needs for a C and a LHD.

But I don't think FLA would agree to this. Eating the salary of Patch and Shaw is too much. Trading a first pick on ELC is a big deal too for a team that does not have that much money.
Mar. 26, 2018 at 3:11 p.m.
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Quoting: GaryMcBettman
As a MTL fan I say yes considering that it adresses our needs for a C and a LHD.

But I don't think FLA would agree to this. Eating the salary of Patch and Shaw is too much. Trading a first pick on ELC is a big deal too for a team that does not have that much money.


eating patch's salary? he is a 30 goal scorer at 4.5M...

-> Florida will have 20M in cap space ... and Matheson is signed to a 5M extension -> So money is definitely not the problem.

-> We still give two 2nd round picks and Reilly (who has the same amount of points than Matheson.

this trade has a positive impact right away for florida
Mar. 26, 2018 at 4:05 p.m.
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Iv seen and made this trade a couple times on here, I think because of Borkstroms success this year it would have to be more of a Patcioretty and our 2018 first (#3-6) being exchanged with theirs (#7-11) so it works for both teams.

Florida moves up in the draft, and gets a top 6 scoring winger. MTL gets their elite center, top pairing left handed D and a top draft pick in a deep draft
Mar. 26, 2018 at 8:27 p.m.
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eating patch's salary? he is a 30 goal scorer at 4.5M...

-> Florida will have 20M in cap space ... and Matheson is signed to a 5M extension -> So money is definitely not the problem.

-> We still give two 2nd round picks and Reilly (who has the same amount of points than Matheson.

this trade has a positive impact right away for florida


Maybe I wasn't clear about a few things.

I agree with you that this deal would have a positive impact on the Panthers' lineup right away, but only on the offense. I think we can agree that even if Reilly is playing about the same average ice time compared to Matheson (21 min), it's only because he has some kind of chemistry with the best defensemen left (Petry) on a really bad team. I don't know where you saw that they have the same amount of points, but according to HockeyDB, Matheson has more points this season alone then Reilly over his carrer in the NHL. So they would need another LHD to fill the 2nd spot, but they have no other player coming up in the farm exept maybe Max Gildon who is their last year 3rd round pick, so he's still too youg for the NHL level.

Second, what I meant by money being a problem is not about the cap, it's about the ownership. 3-4 years ago, Doug Cifu said that his team was losing money with a really bad attendance rate of 14,177 in average. During last season, it was only at 14,620 so we can assume that the money issue is still there. That's why Borgstrom has an incredible value for that kind of team considering he signs his 3 year ELC while being nhl-ready.

Third, I get that 30 goal Patches is a bargain right now, but wait until he asks an extension at aroud 7-8M AAV in only one year.
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Mar. 26, 2018 at 9:58 p.m.
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Maybe I wasn't clear about a few things.

I agree with you that this deal would have a positive impact on the Panthers' lineup right away, but only on the offense. I think we can agree that even if Reilly is playing about the same average ice time compared to Matheson (21 min), it's only because he has some kind of chemistry with the best defensemen left (Petry) on a really bad team. I don't know where you saw that they have the same amount of points, but according to HockeyDB, Matheson has more points this season alone then Reilly over his carrer in the NHL. So they would need another LHD to fill the 2nd spot, but they have no other player coming up in the farm exept maybe Max Gildon who is their last year 3rd round pick, so he's still too youg for the NHL level.

Second, what I meant by money being a problem is not about the cap, it's about the ownership. 3-4 years ago, Doug Cifu said that his team was losing money with a really bad attendance rate of 14,177 in average. During last season, it was only at 14,620 so we can assume that the money issue is still there. That's why Borgstrom has an incredible value for that kind of team considering he signs his 3 year ELC while being nhl-ready.

Third, I get that 30 goal Patches is a bargain right now, but wait until he asks an extension at aroud 7-8M AAV in only one year.



alright, I see your point,

then they should move to Québec city wink
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