NameEdit trades with MIN, NYI, EDM, CBJ, CGY, DET, TML sign Tavares and Carlson

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Created by: GMTD

Team: 2018-19 Buffalo Sabres

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 30, 2018

Published: Mar. 30, 2018

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Let me start by saying, I know none of this is going to happen. Please suspend your disbelief and comment on the fairness of the trades. Who wins or loses each trade.

Botterill trades all of the losers off of this so called team before they can contaminate the young players.

First trade: is a bit of wishful thinking that SJS sign Kane.

Second trade: IMO ROR would return Milano, 1st nd 3rd, I am including Antipin to help close the deal and to move Anitipin for my future defense-men.

Third trade: IMO Risto > RNH. If you look at the stats Okposo (gms, goal, pts - 393, 101, 293) has very similar performance as RNH (391, 98, 256) over the last 5 years. Beaulieu is included to help EDM defense.

Fourth trad: NYI improve at GK, depth center and defense prospect.

Fifth trade: I am moving Eichel to make cap space for JT and help with the future of the team. I want to get rid of all losers on this team and he is the leader of the pack. All picks are top 10 protected.

Sixth trade: I sort of stole this one from Quake
Jason gets an offensive LD. I added Nelson and Girgensons to the trade, dropped a 3rd going to Calgary and McDonald coming to Buffalo

Final trade: a bit of wishful thinking again. It does not have to be MIN, just any team.

IMO the defense is improved the top six are improved and this team has a great future with 9 1st round picks over the next 3 years.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Antipin, Victor	4	$1,000,000
Bailey, Justin	4	$1,000,000
Baptiste, Nicholas	4	$1,000,000
Fasching, Hudson	4	$1,000,000
Griffith, Seth	4	$1,000,000
Kasdorf, Jason	4	$1,000,000
Malone, Sean	4	$1,000,000
O'Regan, Danny	4	$1,000,000
Smith, C.J.	4	$1,000,000
Wilson, Scott	4	$1,000,000
Reinhart, Sam	4	$5,000,000
Lehner, Robin	4	$3,000,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Falk, Justin	4	$1,000,000
Johnson, Chad	4	$1,000,000
Josefson, Jacob	4	$1,000,000
Nolan, Jordan	4	$1,000,000
Pouliot, Benoit	4	$1,000,000
Redmond, Zach	4	$1,000,000
Wilcox, Adam	4	$1,000,000
Tavares, John	7	$13,000,000
Carlson, John	7	$6,000,000
Nelson, Casey	4	$1,500,000
Dahlin, Rasmus	3	$1,000,000

Trades

BUF

2019 1st round pick (SJS)

SJS

2019 2nd round pick (SJS)

Additional Details:

A bit of wishful thinking here that the Sharks sign Kane (15 gms, 9 g 5 a and 12pts) at the end of the season and we get their 1st round pick in exchange for their 2nd.

BUF

Milano, Sonny
2019 1st round pick (CBJ)
2019 3rd round pick (CBJ)

CBJ

BUF

Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
2019 1st round pick (EDM)

EDM

BUF

2019 2nd round pick (CGY)
2020 2nd round pick (NYI)

NYI

BUF

2019 1st round pick (CAR)
2020 1st round pick (CAR)
2021 1st round pick (CAR)

BUF

2020 4th round pick (MIN)

MIN

Pominville, Jason
2019 3rd round pick (CBJ)

Buyouts

Buried

Matt Moulson: $3,975,000 ($5,000,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2019
2020
2021

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$75,000,000	$60,309,090	$0	$2,282,500	$14,690,910

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Mittelstadt, Casey $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, C RFA - 2	Tavares, John $13,000,000$13,000,000 C, LW UFA - 7	Reinhart, Sam $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW UFA - 2
Milano, Sonny $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, C UFA - 3	Bailey, Justin $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 1
Nylander, Alexander $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 3	Rodrigues, Evan $650,000$650,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Baptiste, Nicholas $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 1
Pouliot, Benoit $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW UFA	Nolan, Jordan $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW UFA - 1	Wilson, Scott $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW UFA - 2
	Criscuolo, Kyle $650,000$650,000 C UFA - 1	Fasching, Hudson $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dahlin, Rasmus $1,000,000$1,000,000	Bogosian, Zach $5,142,857$5,142,857 RD UFA - 2	Ullmark, Linus $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Carlson, John $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD UFA - 8	Brodie, TJ $4,650,400$4,650,400 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2
Scandella, Marco $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD UFA - 2	McCabe, Jake $1,600,000$1,600,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Johnson, Chad $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
	Guhle, Brendan $697,500$697,500 ($182,500$182K) LD UFA - 2

Mar. 30, 2018 at 2:06 p.m.

ItWasIn

CGY

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Not what Calgary wants in a Brodie trade

Mar. 30, 2018 at 2:15 p.m.

Claesson4Norris

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I think you've overvalued Jack Eichel. He's a 2C who has really disappointed since entering the league. The whole Dan Blysma thing has really soured me on him. Also I want no part of him at 10 million per. I think the most I would for give him is a 1st, a couple 2nds and maybe a 3rd. I'm sure most people will feel differently, but I just don't get it.

Mar. 30, 2018 at 2:27 p.m.

GMTD

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Quoting: ItWasIn

Not what Calgary wants in a Brodie trade

Thank you very much. make me a counter offer please.

Mar. 30, 2018 at 2:29 p.m.

ItWasIn

CGY

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Quoting: GMTD

Thank you very much. make me a counter offer please.

I'd be willing to add on for Sam Reinhart, or else Okposo. Those are the 2 guys I think CGY would be interested in from Buffalo

Mar. 30, 2018 at 2:29 p.m.

GMTD

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

Thank you very much, I will make those changes in the next post. so 1st, 2- 2nds and a 3rd. TBH I think you are greatly undervaluing him but I will accept your opinion. Depending on the where the 2nds are they often add up to a mid 1st so I am only dropping a 1st for a 3rd. I could live with that.

Mar. 30, 2018 at 2:32 p.m.

GMTD

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Quoting: ItWasIn

I'd be willing to add on for Sam Reinhart, or else Okposo. Those are the 2 guys I think CGY would be interested in from Buffalo

Okposo for Brodie? or is there more to the trade? Reinhart is the only player I really want to keep, IMO, this would be a great defense, Brodie, Dahlin, Bogosian and Carlson, so I am interested with your counter offer.

Mar. 30, 2018 at 2:53 p.m.

Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: GMTD

I don't think there are very many players in the world that I would trade three straight firsts for. like McDavid, and that's it. because you have to ask yourself 'is this player going to be more helpful than the three good young players I could draft with those picks?' I think the answer is no with Jack Eichel.

Like, look at every team's last three firsts. how many teams would trade those three players for Eichel. probably not many.

Mar. 30, 2018 at 2:58 p.m.

GMTD

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

I am not arguing with you. I agree with you, did you see my next post? I put in the trade exactly as you had suggested. I am looking for feed back on that trade. I listen to what other fake GM's have to offer. My next post will be to make a change with the Brodie trade.

Mar. 30, 2018 at 3:01 p.m.

Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: GMTD

I just wanted to expand my reasoning for why I wouldn't make the trade is all

Mar. 30, 2018 at 3:08 p.m.

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MBisch28

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CBJ would not take this trade, we need cap space to sign Werenski, Bob, and Panarin. Unless you're willing to take on Dubinsky if he even agreed to go. I don't see this happening.

Mar. 30, 2018 at 3:11 p.m.

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GMTD

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Quoting: MBisch28

CBJ would not take this trade, we need cap space to sign Werenski, Bob, and Panarin. Unless you're willing to take on Dubinsky, I don't see this happening.

Thank you very much for your feed back, So let's say CBJ can find a home for Dubinsky, is it a fair trade? Is the exchange of values fair? What would CBJ add for the Sabres to take Dubinsky off of the books. That is what I am looking for.

Mar. 30, 2018 at 3:12 p.m.

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Skyraider112

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That Oilers trade is brutal for us. Risto alone is worth RNH and more as you said. Throwing in Okposo makes no sense. Obviously Risto and Okposo combined are more valuable than RNH and a 1st. That Eichel trade is so beyond me I won't say anything.

Mar. 30, 2018 at 3:20 p.m.

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GMTD

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Quoting: Skyraider112

Thank you very much. I sort of looked at the EDM trade Risto > RNH and Okposo < 1st, so adding together Risto + Okposo = RNH + first. LOL? But please I do not disagree with you. The last thing I want to do is get into a silly argument over this. I want RNH, I want to change my defense because it is terrible, I want to build for the teams future, this trade as I posted does all three. So you think the Eichel trade is grossly unfair to the Sabres?

Mar. 30, 2018 at 3:28 p.m.

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LobbysOilers

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

lmfao thats hilarious

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Mar. 30, 2018 at 3:28 p.m.

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LobbysOilers

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oilers trade is interesting in pinciple but i think it would have to be Nuge + Lucic + 1st for Okposo + Risto + Bealieu + 1st

Mar. 30, 2018 at 4:05 p.m.

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Mar. 30, 2018 at 5:28 p.m.

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GMTD

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Quoting: LobbysOilers

oilers trade is interesting in pinciple but i think it would have to be Nuge + Lucic + 1st for Okposo + Risto + Bealieu + 1st

TBH if you offered Lucic and a 1st for future considerations, I would turn that down. I know I am most likely wrong but that is my opinion.

Mar. 31, 2018 at 6:34 a.m.

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Jdfitz77

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Trades are reasonable-ish
EXCEPT for the Eichel one

That’s why you get 1 star
Bc there’s just no way we’d move him
And certainly not for future mid round 1sts that are like 50/50 in terms of becoming good players

Mar. 31, 2018 at 8:40 a.m.

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GMTD

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Quoting: Jdfitz77

So which team has a better chance of making the play offs, the current last place over all team or the team which I constructed? Which team has a better future, the current last place team or the team I constructed with 9 1st round picks over the next 3 years. I will take the one I constructed with a GREATLY improved defense and JT as my top center.

Mar. 31, 2018 at 9:46 a.m.

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CD282

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

Disagree completely. I'm not an Eichel fan (or Sabres fan), but Eichel is a talented player who would command MORE than the three 1st picks listed here. There a quite a few teams who would give up that and more to get a franchise center for the next decade. He's may not be in the top-10 for centers, but he's very close and has the skills to get there.

Mar. 31, 2018 at 9:50 a.m.

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CD282

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Quoting: GMTD

You're paying JT for past performance and trading away Eichel's future performance. I guarantee you that Eichel will be the better player over the next 7-8 years.

Mar. 31, 2018 at 12:55 p.m.

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ItWasIn

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Quoting: GMTD

I'd do Okposo for Brodie, as long as Okposo recovers from his latest injury

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Mar. 31, 2018 at 3:44 p.m.

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Jdfitz77

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Quoting: GMTD

Except this ISN’T A VIDEOGAME
There’s no way all that is happening

U think Tavares would sign here if we traded Eichel?
Dream on
It’s a slim chance he’d sign here even with Jack

And again...
trading Eichel for 3 picks that would be mid 1st rounders is just plain dumb
Those guys basically have a 50/50 shot to become good
If the Sabres were gonna trade Jack,
it sure as hell wouldn’t be for that terrible return

Mar. 31, 2018 at 7:58 p.m.

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GMTD

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Quoting: Jdfitz77

Did you happen to read the first paragraph? Suspend disbelief, of course NONE of these trades are going to happen. But, you have to failed to answer my question, which is the better team, the current bunch of losers or the team I constructed?

Mar. 31, 2018 at 8:20 p.m.

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Jdfitz77

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Quoting: GMTD

Did you happen to read the first paragraph? Suspend disbelief, of course NONE of these trades are going to happen. But, you have to failed to answer my question, which is the better team, the current bunch of losers or the team I constructed?

Well then wtf is the point?!

Also...
adding Carlson (gonna cost WAY more though, try 8mil) & Dahlin are going to greatly improve the defense,
which will make us better
Getting Tavares, will make us better

But that doesn’t excuse the absolutely ASURD stuff u do like trading Eichel for picks or playing Bogosian on the top pair

No one cares if the team u put together could be good or not... bc it’s SUPER UNREALISTIC

Why not try to put together a lineups that could actually happen?

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