If I knew what the Canadian dollar was going to do in 2019, I would be very rich. I think it's decline in the next few years slow the cap rise.
I don't see any reason why Marleau would retire. It's his last NHL season and has best and only chance to win a Cup. To me it's just wishful thinking that his cap is going to disappear, although as Leaf fan I would like it.
Leafs will have a ton of ELC up for renewal the next season, who gets moved for to clear space?

It might slow, but could easily go up by more than 5 per year. This year 7 is very possible; players weren’t happy with FA signings last year when they didn’t use escalator. As for ELCs, take your pick. Doesn’t ultimately matter. In this scenario it’s just bottom of roster churn. If cap keeps rising no problem signing a few.

269 career goals, 618 career points, career .93 ppg.
Versus
71 goals, 126 points and a .89 ppg.

Guess who makes more?

If you are implying (idk the stats) that Tavares will get more than Matthews you are dreaming. I think I’m overpaying him at 11.

I just listed the stats. The numbers speak for themselves.

And I said I assumed that was what you meant. They speak, but you’re still imagining things. Zero chance Tavares gets more than matthews unless 34 takes a smaller bridge deal for 3-5 years at only 10 per.

Zero chance? I smell a bet.

There is no logic in your argument. An rfa with no leverage and a fraction of nhl experience making more than a UFA walking into his prime contract? Good luck with that.

if tavares hits the open market, he'll definitely get more. carlson seems good, though he leads the nhl d-men in point, so he does have a case of making 8 mill at 7 years. the oilers trade is horrible. yamamoto himself is worth more then any of the players u gave back, and also considering how oilers need a winger to play with mcdavid, doubt oilers trade their top prospect. idk what ur definition of a decent prospect is, but yamamoto has 64 points in 40 games in the whl. marleau has a nmc and ntc, so idk why he would waive it. doubt isles give u anything for martin. if tavares leaves, then they'll rebuild.

As I said, Yamamoto may not be the prospect. Take away the 1st rounder and add in a middling prospect. You missed the point entirely.



You are arguing Tavares gets McDavid money. That is literally funny. Too old and probably not a top 10C in the league. Top 15 sure.

No. You're arguing Matthews gets McDavid money. I'm saying Tavares gets paid more then Matthews.

The collective that believes Matthews will make McDavid money live on another planet.

If Matthews’ contract is over 5 years, he absolutely gets 12 million. Doubt Tavares gets more than 10 honestly. Unless resigns with NYI, then could be overpaid to stay.

tavares can easily get 13 mill a year for 7 years on the open market. thats what fa do. the price only falls if not a lot of teams are interested in him. he could be the best and biggest fa signing since chara back in the day with boston

How much did Stamkos, the better player, get last year? 13, 14 per? Ya, that’s right.

Stamkos never hit the open market

Yes he did. He absolutely visited teams and his agent talked deals with teams during the tampering period.

stamkos wasn't in the same situation as the isles. tampa was good, and is still good. considering the weather, climate, fan base and taxes, florida is a very good option for a lot of players, esp FA. if tavares leaves the isles, he can command as much as he wants, provided there are bidders in the market. and with the cap going up, teams will pay up for him. san jose, mtl, stl, even the rangers would pay big money for him. he prob wont make 15 mill, but 13 seems very realistic in his case. and if u dont believe me, tsn and sportsnet have both said that its possible that if he hits the open market, he can command an upwards of 12 mill.

UFA is UFA. If Stamkos took a small hometown discount, it was exactly that: small. If you think Tavares would go max money to a loser, he would have already signed with NYI. He wants to win. And I’ve seen multiple people from across the media (including a bobby Mac) who suggest 9 million is a reasonable guess.

Leafs simply can't afford a number like that.

san jose, habs or new jersey arent a loser, and neither is st louis by any means. if tavares goes to any one of those teams, he'll make them even better then they currently are, and still earn top dollar. well the same channel (tsn) with dreger said 11, while sportsnet's friedman in his 31 thoughts pod cast said upward of 12. and 9 mill in canada wont cut it. at least if its canada, then its 12 mill or more

They 100% can. Which I think I explained.

Hence why I gave him 11. Gave him more than I expect he will get.

Dumping 13M+ in 3 players to overpay 4 others doesn't explain anything other than you don't know how to build a winning team.

Who is overpaid oh Mr GM who has won a Stanley cup?

Excluding all signed at 1M, done for ease, the 5 important pieces are all overpaid. Any one team could overpay one player if they feel he is needed (see Marleau) but to just throw money at guys because you think they might get it defeats the purpose of building a winner.

Of course this is where us amateurs spit opinions but anyone who has won a salary cap fantasy league understands the need for value in contracts. Without value, winning becomes even harder.

I’m guessing you have won a salary cap league and thinks that is more than luck? Look at the price for competent players. Carlson might be slightly overpaid, but will get at least 7. Marner and Nylander will be considered steals within 2 years. Tavares might be slightly overpaid. But none of it screws the cap. None are gross overpays. Leaves plenty of room for others.