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No Tavares for ya'll

Created by: lavsim96
Team: 2018-19 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 12, 2018
Published: Apr. 12, 2018
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Upgrading their defence and their trash goaltending would surely prove to JT that the team has adressed it's major flaws from the last season and will be alot more competitive.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
3$3,500,000
2$2,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$11,000,000
4$4,000,000
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NYI
    Rights to Grubauer.
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    CAR
    1. Bellows, Kieffer
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    2018 first round pick #12
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    NYI
    1. 2019 6th round pick (MTL)
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    cap dump
    MTL
    1. Clutterbuck, Cal
    2. 2019 2nd round pick (CGY)
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    2021
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$78,000,000$71,320,833$0$825,000$6,679,167
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 7
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    RW, LW, C
    UFA - 6
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 3
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    $3,350,000$3,350,000
    C
    UFA - 3
    $650,000$650,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    $4,166,667$4,166,667
    LD
    UFA - 3
    $4,150,000$4,150,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    $3,333,333$3,333,333
    G
    UFA - 2
    $1,600,000$1,600,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    $1,450,000$1,450,000
    RD
    UFA - 5

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    Apr. 12, 2018 at 6:49 p.m.
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    LongtimeLeafsufferer
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    Grubauer is a NHL goalie, and DalColle is probably never going to be an NHLer. That seems like a big overpayment to get just two years of Faulk, in effective to mid two mid first rounders.
    Apr. 12, 2018 at 7:15 p.m.
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    These trades all make good enough sense in theory, but the values are mostly off. Grub's rights are worth more than Dal Colle in my opinion. Maybe Dal Colle and a 2nd?

    No complaints on the Brodin trade. Minnesota gets to upgrade their offense in exchange for defense, something they should have done a while ago. Adding in Aho would reduce some of the anxiety of losing Brodin.

    I agree with palhal, that's a lot to give up for two years of Faulk. Still, that's a division team that will likely start contending around the same time we will. They may not want to send a good, still relatively young defenseman to a future rival. The overpayment might be necessary. So I'll put it this way: if that's your opening offer to Carolina, you're crazy. If that's where negotiations end, I'm fine with that.

    If Montreal is serious about rebuilding, they'd take that trade.

    Good-not-great post.
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    Apr. 12, 2018 at 8:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: Hawkisles
    These trades all make good enough sense in theory, but the values are mostly off. Grub's rights are worth more than Dal Colle in my opinion. Maybe Dal Colle and a 2nd?

    No complaints on the Brodin trade. Minnesota gets to upgrade their offense in exchange for defense, something they should have done a while ago. Adding in Aho would reduce some of the anxiety of losing Brodin.

    I agree with palhal, that's a lot to give up for two years of Faulk. Still, that's a division team that will likely start contending around the same time we will. They may not want to send a good, still relatively young defenseman to a future rival. The overpayment might be necessary. So I'll put it this way: if that's your opening offer to Carolina, you're crazy. If that's where negotiations end, I'm fine with that.

    If Montreal is serious about rebuilding, they'd take that trade.

    Good-not-great post.


    Alright, as for Grub it's hard to get the right value when you look at what other goalies fetched their teams like Talbot, Jones, Andersen, Darling. It's mostly picks but the caps aren't really looking to add picks so why that's why i tried throwing a "suspect" who still got draft like 5th overall? But i agree that i am lowballing it with just him for Grubs.

    Good-not-great commentawesome face joke mate smile
    Apr. 12, 2018 at 8:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    Grubauer is a NHL goalie, and DalColle is probably never going to be an NHLer. That seems like a big overpayment to get just two years of Faulk, in effective to mid two mid first rounders.


    Has been nhl backup tho, a really good one but still a backup. I agree that Dal Colle is a huge suspect at this point given he was picked like 5th overall but i'd say it would be worth the risk if the isles were to add like a third and 5th rounder.
    I think two years of Faulk would be perfect for the Isles at the moment. Of course that's with the objective of keeping Tavares so if JT does leave then getting Faulk would make no sens.
    Faulk is really good but is playing in a joke of a market so he really dosen't get alot of attention on him but his value surely compares to that of Mcdonagh tbh, not as much i agree but certainly in that range.
    Apr. 12, 2018 at 8:18 p.m.
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    whoops
    Apr. 12, 2018 at 9:14 p.m.
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    Who adds what?
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    whoops


    No spoilers!
    Apr. 12, 2018 at 9:16 p.m.
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    Massive underpay for Brodin and Grubauer
    Apr. 12, 2018 at 10:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: BoltsPoint21
    Massive underpay for Brodin and Grubauer


    i doubt that, Aho has good potentialon the left d and Nelson is a 20 goal scorer. That's fair value to get Brodin, a guy who plays a very good two-way game with his speed and mobility.
    Grubauer hasn't proven much, add a 3rd and a 4th and thats most likely a deal.
    Apr. 12, 2018 at 10:05 p.m.
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    i doubt that, Aho has good potentialon the left d and Nelson is a 20 goal scorer. That's fair value to get Brodin, a guy who plays a very good two-way game with his speed and mobility.
    Grubauer hasn't proven much, add a 3rd and a 4th and thats most likely a deal.


    Nelson is a top 9 forward. Brodin is a #3 defensman. Aho is likely a #5 dman at best. Grubauer is a fringe #1G rn that has taken the starting role in the playoffs from Holtby.
    Apr. 12, 2018 at 10:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: BoltsPoint21
    Nelson is a top 9 forward. Brodin is a #3 defensman. Aho is likely a #5 dman at best. Grubauer is a fringe #1G rn that has taken the starting role in the playoffs from Holtby.


    Omg yea he started game 1 (he lost so Holtby is back in next game) but that dosen't mean he stole the role from Holtby jeez it's way too quick to assume that...look at what Darling is doing in carolina after "taking" Crawford's role.
    What do you expect the caps to get for Grub? i am very interested to hear it lol
    Apr. 12, 2018 at 11:31 p.m.
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    Omg yea he started game 1 (he lost so Holtby is back in next game) but that dosen't mean he stole the role from Holtby jeez it's way too quick to assume that...look at what Darling is doing in carolina after "taking" Crawford's role.
    What do you expect the caps to get for Grub? i am very interested to hear it lol


    at least a 1st round pick. Dal Colle is a bust btw. a 3rd and 4th doesn't have much value.
    Apr. 12, 2018 at 11:38 p.m.
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    Omg yea he started game 1 (he lost so Holtby is back in next game) but that dosen't mean he stole the role from Holtby jeez it's way too quick to assume that...look at what Darling is doing in carolina after "taking" Crawford's role.
    What do you expect the caps to get for Grub? i am very interested to hear it lol


    Also, since Feb. 11, Holtby has only had 4 games with a sv% higher than .900. Grubauer has only had one game with a sv% less than .9.09. one Also, playing for Washington, one of the league's top team this season, he has a a GAA of 2.99 and a sv% of .907. For comparison, Cam Ward has posted similiar numbers playing for Carolina. So yes, I would say as of right now Grubauer is the 1A.
    Apr. 13, 2018 at 1:07 p.m.
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    I think Tavares still might walk. He hasn't said he won't extend his contract with the Isles. Grubauer is a risky move, when he's been a backup his whole career, look at Scott Darling and Antti Raanta, they were traded to be starters. Darling did alright, and Raanta the same. I don't agree with getting Faulk when you already got Brodin. Especially trading away a top notch prospect in Bellows. I don't think Washington would trade their backup's rights for a guy who hasn't seen basically any NHL time and in that time hasn't done well. I also don't think the Islanders are signing another center in Bozak when they keep Tavares and have Barzal.
     
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