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Team: 2018-19 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 16, 2018
Published: Apr. 16, 2018
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As i sit here watching out my window as my back yard becomes a lake wondering could I stock it with bass?

I had time to put another team together that I hope will bring all of you fellow CFer's much thought and enjoyment.

My basic premise is for the Sabres to become a tougher team to play against by adding a bit of sandpaper and youth to the roster. I normally look to try and snag as many possible draft picks but not with this team.

Washington deal centers around Tom Wilson. I really like the tenacity in which he plays the game. He is an RFA and I am not sure that the Caps can afford to sign him long term. The Sabres can offer him a $3,000,000 and for the his rights the Sabres take on Orpik. This frees up much need cap space for the Caps.

Montreal dumps Schlemko and the Sabres bury him in Rochester. Montreal picks up Pominville (Buffalo retains salary) and gets a 2nd Round pick.

New Jersey deal gives them a up and down the line player in Girgensons and a late pick in exchange for a young C/RW.

The Carolina deal will probably have the Hurricanes fan base screaming no way no way... well I say 'Way' "party on".... Carolina gets ROR, Lehner, Baptiste & Cornel in exchange for Slavin.

I would also sign Griffith, Malone, O'Regan, Kasdorf, Wilcox to 2 way deals and start them in the minors.

As always your positive and negative feedback is welcomed and appreciated!
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$800,000
3$900,000
3$1,000,000
5$4,500,000
3$1,000,000
3$3,000,000
3$1,200,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,400,000
3$1,800,000
4$3,250,000
3$1,000,000
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BUF
  1. 2019 1st round pick (SJS)
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San Jose resigns Evander Kane
SJS
  1. 2019 2nd round pick (SJS)
2.
BUF
  1. Orpik, Brooks
Additional Details:
RFA Rights to Tom Wilson
WSH
  1. Fasching, Hudson
  2. Larsson, Johan
  3. 2020 4th round pick (BUF)
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BUF
  1. Schlemko, David
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Pominville, Jason
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Sabres retain $2,000,000 of salary
4.
NJD
  1. Girgensons, Zemgus
  2. 2020 6th round pick (BUF)
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6.
CAR
  1. Baptiste, Nicholas
  2. Cornel, Eric
  3. O'Reilly, Ryan
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RFA rights to Robin Lehner
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2021
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22$78,000,000$64,047,857$0$2,200,000$13,952,143
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 8
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$1,875,000$1,875,000
LW
UFA - 1
$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
UFA - 6
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
$650,000$650,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$1,800,000$1,800,000
RW
UFA - 2
$800,000$800,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 7
$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 4
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
$5,142,857$5,142,857
RD
UFA - 2

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Apr. 16, 2018 at 9:32 p.m.
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I like slavin but thats a bit much
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Apr. 16, 2018 at 9:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
I like slavin but thats a bit much


I can deal with a bit much..... I am willing to overpay to get the right pieces.... I can always subtract.... it is a problem when you are told by CFer's not enough.

What would you think Carolina adds to the deal to make it more balanced in your opinion.

Thanks for the feedback.
Apr. 16, 2018 at 9:40 p.m.
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I’ll number my thoughts the way you do haha
1. I like that Washington Deal. Wilson has the skill to move up and down the lineup as needed. Not the biggest fan of Orpik taking Guhles spot though

2. I don’t see Buffalo moving Pommers. A 30 point veteran with leadership qualities is ok for a year

3. I’ll combine NJ and Pen deals. I don’t know much about Bastian, but id be ok with both of these deals and we know Botts can do well with the little trades (Scott Wilson)

4.Thats a lot to ask for Slavin imo. He sort of had a down year I think as well. I’d rather just go after Faulk honestly

5. For UFAs... Nelson Deal probably won’t have to be that expensive. I wouldn’t really care for Reaves on this roster. Just get Bailey/Fasching in there. Nash Deal is a little expensive but he probably wouldn’t be a bad bridge for Mitts; what do you think about Filppula or Bozak? I think we could do better than Sateri; I like Ward, Lehthonen, or Bernier splitting with Ullmark

Not a bad job overall with unique ideas!
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Apr. 16, 2018 at 10:02 p.m.
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Always five stars for trading O'Reilly
IMO O'Reilly for Slavin may be close enough. I know from other trades Faulk for O'Reilly seems fair when Carolina adds to the trade, I do not see Slavin as a huge upgrade over Faulk.
I know many NYI CF GM's trade Nelson for Lehner.
I have not seen any trades for Cornel nor Baptiste.

Well that is a casual observation from a Sabre season ticket holder. I am not a scout so I really cannot say for certain if my observations are accurate.
Apr. 16, 2018 at 10:06 p.m.
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Quoting: wagsnags
I can deal with a bit much..... I am willing to overpay to get the right pieces.... I can always subtract.... it is a problem when you are told by CFer's not enough.

What would you think Carolina adds to the deal to make it more balanced in your opinion?


Slavin=ROR really (I could see it), but maybe keep Lehner rights too if needed but u don’t need Baptiste or Cornel.
Apr. 16, 2018 at 10:40 p.m.
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Slavin is better than Faulk and Slavin has long term contract like ROR, so really Slavin would be the guy to take. Bastian is young and hasn't had the chance to fail as a NHLer like Grigs. NJD don't do that deal. Don't see Montreal wanting Pomer even a reduced salary. Doesn't he have a NMC or NTC? Montreal is hardly an attractive destination now.
Apr. 16, 2018 at 10:46 p.m.
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Slavin is better than Faulk and Slavin has long term contract like ROR, so really Slavin would be the guy to take. Bastian is young and hasn't had the chance to fail as a NHLer like Grigs. NJD don't do that deal. Don't see Montreal wanting Pomer even a reduced salary. Doesn't he have a NMC or NTC? Montreal is hardly an attractive destination now.


IMO:

I agree with you that Slavin is better player than Faulk when you take age, term etc into the equation.

Born and raised in Montreal (30 minutes from Montreal to be exact). He would waive his NTC to go home. I do not think he would waive for any other team.

Montreal would take him at a reduced salary and the ability to dump Schlemko.

Thanks for the feedback.
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Apr. 16, 2018 at 10:48 p.m.
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i am not on the Slaven band wagon, he is a good player but he had a surprise year 2 years ago and made little improvement this year if any. I think in this modern nhl we are going to see d men hit there peak early (23ish) and fade faster as foot speed slows down (28ish). that being said if you could snag faulk and bean for same price you would help team even more and the price is more reasonable then.
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Apr. 16, 2018 at 10:48 p.m.
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Slavin=ROR really (I could see it), but maybe keep Lehner rights too if needed but u don’t need Baptiste or Cornel.


I appreciate your feedback.....
Apr. 16, 2018 at 10:50 p.m.
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i am not on the Slaven band wagon, he is a good player but he had a surprise year 2 years ago and made little improvement this year if any. I think in this modern nhl we are going to see d men hit there peak early (23ish) and fade faster as foot speed slows down (28ish). that being said if you could snag faulk and bean for same price you would help team even more and the price is more reasonable then.


I totally agree IF we could snag both Faulk and Bean..... or just Bean but I do not see Carolina parting with Bean.

Thanks for your feedback.
Apr. 16, 2018 at 10:51 p.m.
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Always five stars for trading O'Reilly
IMO O'Reilly for Slavin may be close enough. I know from other trades Faulk for O'Reilly seems fair when Carolina adds to the trade, I do not see Slavin as a huge upgrade over Faulk.
I know many NYI CF GM's trade Nelson for Lehner.
I have not seen any trades for Cornel nor Baptiste.

Well that is a casual observation from a Sabre season ticket holder. I am not a scout so I really cannot say for certain if my observations are accurate.


Where are your seats.... I in section 204 Row 1 Seats 5-10
Apr. 16, 2018 at 11:00 p.m.
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Where are your seats.... I in section 204 Row 1 Seats 5-10


I would kill for your seats.

111 row 25, 19 and 20. Shoot twice zone, directly over the tunnel. I split the tickets this year I went to 20 games, next year it will be less. My eye level is just about the same as the 200's and since I am over the tunnel I do not have to look around heads. I am happy with them. I sit next to Leaf fans and they are really fun to talk to.
Apr. 16, 2018 at 11:02 p.m.
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I would kill for your seats.

111 row 25, 19 and 20. Shoot twice zone, directly over the tunnel. I split the tickets this year I went to 20 games, next year it will be less. My eye level is just about the same as the 200's and since I am over the tunnel I do not have to look around heads. I am happy with them. I sit next to Leaf fans and they are really fun to talk to.


I really like the first row of the 200's more leg room and never have to stand as nobody is ever in your way..... my fat lazy arse sits in that seat the whole night..... then again they really do not give us any reason to stand.

My Bills tickets are the bomb..... 50 yard line 18th row seats 1-4 right on the aisle behind the Bills bench..... they also have not given much of a reason to stand
Apr. 16, 2018 at 11:05 p.m.
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IMO:


Born and raised in Montreal (30 minutes from Montreal to be exact). He would waive his NTC to go home. I do not think he would waive for any other team.

Thanks for the info on Pomer. All this time, like 15 years, I thought he was an American. Maybe his parents have turned his basement bedroom into a den, so maybe he can't go home.
Apr. 16, 2018 at 11:20 p.m.
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I really like the first row of the 200's more leg room and never have to stand as nobody is ever in your way..... my fat lazy arse sits in that seat the whole night..... then again they really do not give us any reason to stand.

My Bills tickets are the bomb..... 50 yard line 18th row seats 1-4 right on the aisle behind the Bills bench..... they also have not given much of a reason to stand


i used to have season when i lived closer they were 1st row in section 305. i much prefer the view up higher but dislike the lack of beef on weck in the 300s now.
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Apr. 16, 2018 at 11:21 p.m.
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i used to have season when i lived closer they were 1st row in section 305. i much prefer the view up higher but dislike the lack of beef on weck in the 300s now.


I did not like having to go all the way down to the 100's to get my beef on weck...... I swore off the 300's after one Bandits game!!!!
Apr. 16, 2018 at 11:23 p.m.
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I really like the first row of the 200's more leg room and never have to stand as nobody is ever in your way..... my fat lazy arse sits in that seat the whole night..... then again they really do not give us any reason to stand.


When I watch the playoff hockey, the players feet are always moving, there is a sense of urgency. I never saw that from the Sabres. After my son gives it the stamp of approval I will publish it. My sons dream was to be a hockey GM, then he met a girl and he followed a different dream. Now he is VP of a software company. Different dream and no time for hockey. He really knows hockey, the value of player, how to build a team (something DATM never learned from his uncle). I learn more from him then any one.

I am working on a post that brings in 12 new players and keeps the team under the cap. All of the trades were borrowed from other posts, so none will really happen, LOL. There are also 6 picks among the 1st 32 in the 2018 draft. LOL

Pearson, Tanner-Eichel, Jack-Grabner, Michael
Kreider, Chris-Stastny, Paul-Vanek, Thomas
Bennett, Sam-Nelson, Brock-Rieder, Tobias

Brodie, TJ-Faulk, Justin
Scandella, Marco-Bogosian, Zach
Sekera, Andrej-McCabe, Jake
Skjei, Brady

Ullmark, Linus Hutton, Carter

NO O'REILLY
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Apr. 16, 2018 at 11:27 p.m.
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When I watch the playoff hockey, the players feet are always moving, there is a sense of urgency. I never saw that from the Sabres. After my son gives it the stamp of approval I will publish it. My sons dream was to be a hockey GM, then he met a girl and he followed a different dream. Now he is VP of a software company. Different dream and no time for hockey. He really knows hockey, the value of player, how to build a team (something DATM never learned from his uncle). I learn more from him then any one.

I am working on a post that brings in 12 new players and keeps the team under the cap. All of the trades were borrowed from other posts, so none will really happen, LOL. There are also 6 picks among the 1st 32 in the 2018 draft. LOL

Pearson, Tanner-Eichel, Jack-Grabner, Michael
Kreider, Chris-Stastny, Paul-Vanek, Thomas
Bennett, Sam-Nelson, Brock-Rieder, Tobias

Brodie, TJ-Faulk, Justin
Scandella, Marco-Bogosian, Zach
Sekera, Andrej-McCabe, Jake
Skjei, Brady

Ullmark, Linus Hutton, Carter

NO O'REILLY


Yesterday as I watched Philly/Pit..... CBJ/Wash.... WPG/Minn..... VGK/LA I was saying to myself I never see the Sabres pass, skate, hit or check like any of these teams..... it was at that point that I realized man my wife is right I am a lazy ******* and I watch too much hockey.....
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Apr. 16, 2018 at 11:38 p.m.
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Yesterday as I watched Philly/Pit..... CBJ/Wash.... WPG/Minn..... VGK/LA I was saying to myself I never see the Sabres pass, skate, hit or check like any of these teams..... it was at that point that I realized man my wife is right I am a lazy ******* and I watch too much hockey.....


That is more than I watched. But in every game it was the same. It all flows down from O'Reilly. I am sure you have noticed that when he comes to the blue line he dumps the puck in and the other team carries it out. He is the only one who does it all of the time. So what if you win 10,000 face offs if you dump and lose 20,000 times.
Watch Bergeron, he gets to the blue line, if the entrance is blocked, he will carry the puck back to the red line and reload.
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Apr. 17, 2018 at 1:18 a.m.
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I really like trades you suggest overall!
With a few tweaks ofc.
I don't see why CAR would want the 1 year to UFA Lehner with arb-rights. I like him better then Darling but do they want to carry three NHL tenders? Also they have Nedeljkovic in their system who still might be the best goalie prospect they ever had (not that their are a lot of names available for that title).
It's more likely CAR sacrifice Bean or Hanifin then Slavin (in my opinion).

Also I'm very surprised that ROR don't have NMC or NTC.
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Apr. 17, 2018 at 1:44 a.m.
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I really like trades you suggest overall!
With a few tweaks ofc.
I don't see why CAR would want the 1 year to UFA Lehner with arb-rights. I like him better then Darling but do they want to carry three NHL tenders? Also they have Nedeljkovic in their system who still might be the best goalie prospect they ever had (not that their are a lot of names available for that title).
It's more likely CAR sacrifice Bean or Hanifin then Slavin (in my opinion).

Also I'm very surprised that ROR don't have NMC or NTC.


If I remember correctly during the contract negotiations between ROR and Tim Murray it came down to longer term without a NTC or shorter term with a NTC..... If my memory is accurate it was 2 years less if there was to be a NTC.
Apr. 17, 2018 at 8:21 a.m.
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IMO:

I agree with you that Slavin is better player than Faulk when you take age, term etc into the equation.

Born and raised in Montreal (30 minutes from Montreal to be exact). He would waive his NTC to go home. I do not think he would waive for any other team.

Montreal would take him at a reduced salary and the ability to dump Schlemko.

Thanks for the feedback.


Montreal is deep at wing. and even at "Reduced Salary" he is still 3.5M for 34 points last year? No, Montreal absolutely would not want him for the cost of a 2nd.
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Apr. 17, 2018 at 9:52 a.m.
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Rain? You guys got rain yesterday? Indianapolis had snow all day. I had some yardwork that couldn't wait, and I was out in flurries. Ridiculous.

A week ago I would have laughed at that Wilson trade. Today, irritated with a missed defensive cover in game one against Columbus, and a missed opportunity in game two, it's more of a knowing chuckle.

Larsson's pretty good at faceoffs and a bit cheaper than Beagle, with only a bit less offense, and like seven years younger. Minus a billion, but maybe Trotz can help him with that? Scored some points in Europe, and in the AHL playoffs. Could outscore Beagle next year. Interesting prospect, although at 25 he may also be close to his ceiling as just a faceoff guy.

Fasching is decent depth for Hershey if he clears waivers.

That's like seven million in cap space, a potential 4C, and a 4th pick you're offering for Tom Wilson. Sounds great, given that two days ago I was (semi-seriously) trying to trade Tom Wilson away for free after a missed cover in game one. But he does have 5 playoff points in 43 playoff games as a 24 year old, and he's consistently on the leaderboard in hits, and breaking out as a top liner, so I don't actually believe the Caps will trade him at all this summer.

But if Larsson is done in Buffalo after going -30 this year, I think he'd be an even swap for (yes, of course Orpik, whom you could also have for free, with a late pick, and/or...) Brett Connolly, the reclamation project who gets fifteen goals a season in a bottom six role, and might get twenty as a 2nd line winger. Why am I done with him? Zero points in nine career playoff games, and -3. He was drafted ahead of Kuznetsov, and occasionally makes some awesome moves around defenders to score goals, so the talent is there, but for a team with a reputation for perennial playoff disappointments, Connolly would make a perfect scapegoat right about five minutes after the end of game four.



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I would kill for your seats.

111 row 25, 19 and 20. Shoot twice zone, directly over the tunnel. I split the tickets this year I went to 20 games, next year it will be less. My eye level is just about the same as the 200's and since I am over the tunnel I do not have to look around heads. I am happy with them. I sit next to Leaf fans and they are really fun to talk to.


I've had that experience in DC, too. Leafs fans are friendly travelers.
Apr. 17, 2018 at 12:25 p.m.
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Montreal is deep at wing. and even at "Reduced Salary" he is still 3.5M for 34 points last year? No, Montreal absolutely would not want him for the cost of a 2nd.


Yes Montreal is currently deep at the wing. How many of your current wingers will be jettisoned off to other places. In addition the deal included the Sabres take Schlemko. He is currently on the books at $2.1 million so in my calculation you get a 34 point winger who is a leader in the room for $1.3 and a 2nd Round Pick. Now please do not try to sell me that Schlemko is worth any amount of money. If he ends up in Buffalo he gets sent to the minors and buried there until the end of days..... well his days.

I appreciate you taking the time to address the thread.... man 1 star was harsh.
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Apr. 17, 2018 at 1:22 p.m.
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Yes Montreal is currently deep at the wing. How many of your current wingers will be jettisoned off to other places. In addition the deal included the Sabres take Schlemko. He is currently on the books at $2.1 million so in my calculation you get a 34 point winger who is a leader in the room for $1.3 and a 2nd Round Pick. Now please do not try to sell me that Schlemko is worth any amount of money. If he ends up in Buffalo he gets sent to the minors and buried there until the end of days..... well his days.

I appreciate you taking the time to address the thread.... man 1 star was harsh.


Schlemko is garbage. No sell job here.

Montreal's wingers are all young, or Pacioretty, Galcehnyuk, Drouin and Gallagher (IF Montreal actually finds centers this summer). So I don't see them jettisoning anyone for the chance to ice Pominville. Even if it is at the difference in cost of shipping Schlemko off. We could lose 2 wingers and still have no reason to want Pominville. I rated solely based on Montreal deal, didn't mean offense, just didn't like the idea from a Montreal perspective. Deals for centers or LD are basically the only ones that make sense at the moment.

Pacioretty - x - Gallagher
Drouin - x - Galchenyuk
Lehkonen - x - Byron
Hudon - x - Shaw
Deslauriers - x - Scherbak
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