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I Think They Should Trade Up

Created by: BigBeardBurns
Team: 2017-18 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 19, 2018
Published: Apr. 19, 2018
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The Rangers have 3 2018 1sts, but only 1 in the top 10. I think they should use the other 2 1sts and one of their 3 RFA Centers (K.Hayes, Namestnikov, or Spooner) to get another top 10 pick.
Free Agent Signings
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Zadina, Filip
3$925,000
Dobson, Noah
3$925,000
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  1. Moulson, Matt
  2. 2018 1st round pick (BUF)
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BUF
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
  2. Smith, Brendan ($2,150,000 retained)
  3. 2018 1st round pick (TBL)
  4. 2018 1st round pick (BOS)
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Smith needs to play in NHL again. So does Moulson.
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23$75,000,000$67,871,111$0$4,015,000$7,128,889
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LW
UFA - 3
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
UFA - 5
$3,150,000$3,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$2,825,000$2,825,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$2,600,000$2,600,000
C
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
Zadina, Filip
$925,000$925,000
$925,000$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW
UFA - 3
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
$925,000$925,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$1,900,000$1,900,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RD
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UFA - 4
$8,500,000$8,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
$5,700,000$5,700,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Dobson, Noah
$925,000$925,000
$792,500$792,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
UFA - 3
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 2
$742,500$742,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
D
UFA - 1

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Apr. 19, 2018 at 9:33 p.m.
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not bad but i feel hayes wont be added to the trade but instead maybe vesey or spooner but probably not vesey due to the contract issues 2 years ago between vesey and buffalo but i think namestikov 2 1sts should be enough for buffalo as this draft is deeper than most are and namestikov is already a top 6 and the 2 1sts will give bufallo more prospects to work with not as high ceiling as the top 3 will provide but it will give them a surplus of rookies for a team that is rebuilding. Also no reason to take on moulsons contract.
Apr. 19, 2018 at 9:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Bloodykisame
not bad but i feel hayes wont be added to the trade but instead maybe vesey or spooner but probably not vesey due to the contract issues 2 years ago between vesey and buffalo but i think namestikov 2 1sts should be enough for buffalo as this draft is deeper than most are and namestikov is already a top 6 and the 2 1sts will give bufallo more prospects to work with not as high ceiling as the top 3 will provide but it will give them a surplus of rookies for a team that is rebuilding. Also no reason to take on moulsons contract.


If taking on Moulson is needed in this deal, no issue for Rangers. Team is re-building so 2 years only of a bad contract is fine. That also could alleviate Hayes from this deal. I also feel as if i now am sounding like a broken record, but I don’t think moving Spooner would make sense. For everybody saying “Hayes had a great 2nd half,” many forget that Spooner was on his line and helped him out tremendously. He has had some injuries in the past, but most players have had injuries. I’d love to keep Hayes and Spooner if possible. Would Fast be worth moving? I know he’s a 3rd liner but a very good defensive forward.
Apr. 19, 2018 at 9:44 p.m.
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If taking on Moulson is needed in this deal, no issue for Rangers. Team is re-building so 2 years only of a bad contract is fine. That also could alleviate Hayes from this deal. I also feel as if i now am sounding like a broken record, but I don’t think moving Spooner would make sense. For everybody saying “Hayes had a great 2nd half,” many forget that Spooner was on his line and helped him out tremendously. He has had some injuries in the past, but most players have had injuries. I’d love to keep Hayes and Spooner if possible. Would Fast be worth moving? I know he’s a 3rd liner but a very good defensive forward.


1 year of bad contract... this would happen in summer, and I made it in 2017-18. I’m glad to hear Hayes can b removed. I’ll do it right away.
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Apr. 19, 2018 at 9:47 p.m.
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If taking on Moulson is needed in this deal, no issue for Rangers. Team is re-building so 2 years only of a bad contract is fine. That also could alleviate Hayes from this deal. I also feel as if i now am sounding like a broken record, but I don’t think moving Spooner would make sense. For everybody saying “Hayes had a great 2nd half,” many forget that Spooner was on his line and helped him out tremendously. He has had some injuries in the past, but most players have had injuries. I’d love to keep Hayes and Spooner if possible. Would Fast be worth moving? I know he’s a 3rd liner but a very good defensive forward.


agreed i want spooner and hayes to stay i see namestikov, zucc, vesey being more expendable as they have trouble creating an identity for themselves other than zucc but with his age and the course of the team i think it would be best to move him to a week playoff contender or a team on the cusp to get either picks or some good prospects preferable a good right handed defence or a pure goal scorer which we really havent had since nash's 40 goal season.
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Apr. 19, 2018 at 9:48 p.m.
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1 year of bad contract... this would happen in summer, and I made it in 2017-18. I’m glad to hear Hayes can b removed. I’ll do it right away.


didnt realize this was 2017-2018 but taking on that contract could mean not getting tavares, carlson or even kovi in the odd chance or another ffa thats why i would avoid his contract.
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Apr. 19, 2018 at 9:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Bloodykisame
didnt realize this was 2017-2018 but taking on that contract could mean not getting tavares, carlson or even kovi in the odd chance or another ffa thats why i would avoid his contract.


I only added that as an optional if Buffalo feels unsafe about their salary cap after the trade thing, but I can replace Moulson with like Beaulieu. That part of the deal wasn’t written in stone.

I doubt Rangers get JT or JC, but Kovi’s a possibility.
Apr. 19, 2018 at 9:53 p.m.
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Like the asset coming back. Good use of Namestnikov to get two players from this year's top 10 in the draft.

Have to think this would be a savvy move long-term for the Rangers. I might suggest that Tkachuk would be a better pick up, long-term, based on what we've seen from his older brother in CGY.
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Apr. 19, 2018 at 9:53 p.m.
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Sure just as the trade is written is fair with Moulson added in.
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Apr. 19, 2018 at 9:53 p.m.
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As a Sabres fan, I would be ok with trading the 2nd pick, but I would hate to see them trade away Dahlin. It's a generational player at a position of extreme need for this team. I think your package is of fair value but it's just a rare time when the player at #1 is the exact player that the Sabres need and they could not pass on him.
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Apr. 19, 2018 at 9:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Greysuits
As a Sabres fan, I would be ok with trading the 2nd pick, but I would hate to see them trade away Dahlin. It's a generational player at a position of extreme need for this team. I think your package is of fair value but it's just a rare time when the player at #1 is the exact player that the Sabres need and they could not pass on him.


Of course, this package was not made for #1 OVR. This would b if Buffalo gets snubbed again and it’s #2 or 3.
Apr. 19, 2018 at 9:56 p.m.
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Of course, this package was not made for #1 OVR. This would b if Buffalo gets snubbed again and it’s #2 or 3.


Ah then yeah I think it would be good for both teams then!
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Apr. 19, 2018 at 10:20 p.m.
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I guess I will be the devil's advocate then:

1. I go from #3 overall and get picks #28 & #29;

2. I pick up Namenstikov

3. I get a buried 29 year old with a bad contract for that washes with MM which I only have one year left to absorb;

Mates as a Buffalo Sabres loyalist I do not see this as a good deal for the Sabres. Even if this is a deep draft you fall back 25 players that is too big of a drop for just Namenstikov . For me to get interested if I am GMBots then you have to be discussing Hayes.

Vesey would not be a problem for GMBots the hokie pokie was with GMMurray.

I say no thanks I will take a pick #3 & #32 in the 2018 draft.
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Apr. 19, 2018 at 10:22 p.m.
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Like the asset coming back. Good use of Namestnikov to get two players from this year's top 10 in the draft.

Have to think this would be a savvy move long-term for the Rangers. I might suggest that Tkachuk would be a better pick up, long-term, based on what we've seen from his older brother in CGY.


Quoting: Vanderm
Like the asset coming back. Good use of Namestnikov to get two players from this year's top 10 in the draft.

Have to think this would be a savvy move long-term for the Rangers. I might suggest that Tkachuk would be a better pick up, long-term, based on what we've seen from his older brother in CGY.

I really think Brady Tkachuk is the one player I wouldn’t really want out of the top 10 picks. I see how Matthew is and their father was. I’d much rather have Wahlstrom if NYR didn’t trade into top 3 and use their 8/9 on a forward if he’s there.
Apr. 19, 2018 at 11:59 p.m.
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Big no from Buffalo

The Sabres first rounder will be top four at worst, and that player could play in the NHL next season (Tkachuk, Zadina, Svech, Dahlin). Svech could even have a Laine type impact.

If the top four is that good.....Absolutely NO way this happens. If I was picking 6-10, or if the NYR were offering something around #8 overall, I absolutely consider this with some tweeks. Matt Moulson has one more year left, Buffalo could easily keep him, and honestly you could also take Okposo, and Bogosian, and it still would not be worth it. Namestikov is good, but not that good that I'm willing to give up a stud like one of those top guys


However, any deal that includes Buffalo's pick being traded is an assrape, buttfuck, and a bukkake on Sidney Crosby's face, followed buy by a slap in the face by the erect penis by a blue whale on viagara

If Botterill did this deal, he would be fired immediately
Apr. 20, 2018 at 7:18 a.m.
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Quoting: wagsnags
I guess I will be the devil's advocate then:

1. I go from #3 overall and get picks #28 & #29;

2. I pick up Namenstikov

3. I get a buried 29 year old with a bad contract for that washes with MM which I only have one year left to absorb;

Mates as a Buffalo Sabres loyalist I do not see this as a good deal for the Sabres. Even if this is a deep draft you fall back 25 players that is too big of a drop for just Namenstikov . For me to get interested if I am GMBots then you have to be discussing Hayes.

Vesey would not be a problem for GMBots the hokie pokie was with GMMurray.

I say no thanks I will take a pick #3 & #32 in the 2018 draft.


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Big no from Buffalo

The Sabres first rounder will be top four at worst, and that player could play in the NHL next season (Tkachuk, Zadina, Svech, Dahlin). Svech could even have a Laine type impact.

If the top four is that good.....Absolutely NO way this happens. If I was picking 6-10, or if the NYR were offering something around #8 overall, I absolutely consider this with some tweeks. Matt Moulson has one more year left, Buffalo could easily keep him, and honestly you could also take Okposo, and Bogosian, and it still would not be worth it. Namestikov is good, but not that good that I'm willing to give up a stud like one of those top guys


However, any deal that includes Buffalo's pick being traded is an assrape, buttfuck, and a bukkake on Sidney Crosby's face, followed buy by a slap in the face by the erect penis by a blue whale on viagara

If Botterill did this deal, he would be fired immediately


Well, this is all opinionated, and most disagree, so thanks, but no thanks.
Hayes was originally added to the deal, but the people that weren’t just here to b hecklers helped me and said he was unnecessary. Now, if u disagree and want Hayes in the deal, fine, but u guys just rate unproven rookies way to high. Ever heard of a draft bust?
 
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