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What's Simmonds worth, @ draft?

Created by: Turner33
Initial Creation Date: Apr 20, 2018
Published: Apr 20, 2018 at 2:19 pm
Team: 2018-19 St. Louis Blues
Team Explanation
Three options, A B or C...
May be none of them IDK.
Philly should stay the course, keep getting younger while Pittsburgh gets older.

I just think he'd be a great fit in those 3 different line combos next year. (I'm aware ppl don't like him and Schenn together)
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Edmundson, Joel1$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Tavares, John7$11,000,000
Trades
STL
  1. Simmonds, Wayne
PHI
    A)

    2018 1st Winnipeg
    STL
    1. Simmonds, Wayne
    PHI
    1. Sobotka, Vladimír
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    B)

    2018 1st win
    STL
    1. Simmonds, Wayne
    PHI
    1. Barbashev, Ivan
    2. 2019 1st round pick (STL)
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    C)
    STL
    1. Hoffman, Mike ($1,000,000 retained)
    OTT
    1. Thompson, Tage
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    Rights to Fabbri
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2019
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    2020
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    WPG
    STL
    STL
    STL
    2021
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$79,000,000$81,527,654$150,988$182,500-$2,527,654
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    Simmonds, Wayne
    $3,975,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Tavares, John
    $11,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Tarasenko, Vladimir
    $7,500,000
    RW
    UFA - 5
    Schwartz, Jaden
    $5,350,000
    LW
    UFA - 3
    Schenn, Brayden
    $5,125,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Simmonds, Wayne
    $3,975,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Hoffman, Mike
    $4,187,500
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Thomas, Robert
    $894,166
    RW, C
    RFA - 3
    Simmonds, Wayne
    $3,975,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Steen, Alexander
    $5,750,000
    LW, RW, C
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Berglund, Patrik
    $3,850,000
    C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Thorburn, Chris
    $900,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Edmundson, Joel
    $2,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Pietrangelo, Alex
    $6,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Allen, Jake
    $4,350,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    Dunn, Vince
    $722,500
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Parayko, Colton
    $5,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
    Husso, Ville
    $847,500
    G
    UFA - 1
    Walman, Jake
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Bortuzzo, Robert
    $1,150,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Gunnarsson, Carl
    $2,900,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Bouwmeester, Jay
    $5,400,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 1

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    Apr 20, 2018 at 2:19
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    Apr 20, 2018 at 2:35
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    I'd want something else in addition to the 2018 1st - WPG. Not sure what you can offer (maybe 2019 STL pick 21 protected) or future pick swaps in 2021, 2023 for first round picks
    Apr 20, 2018 at 2:41
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    Quoting: phillyjabroni
    I'd want something else in addition to the 2018 1st - WPG. Not sure what you can offer (maybe 2019 STL pick 21 protected) or future pick swaps in 2021, 2023 for first round picks


    Thought 18 1st and Barbashev... Kinda an overpayment. Maybe conditional picks of he doesn't resign?
    Apr 20, 2018 at 2:46
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    Quoting: Turner33
    Thought 18 1st and Barbashev... Kinda an overpayment. Maybe conditional picks of he doesn't resign?


    Don't really think that Barbashev has a long term role with Philly (which is why I declined haha).

    Personally, I'd be willing to do this, but it hasn't been done in the NHL before (future picks, that is):

    St. Louis Blues
    Wayne Simmonds (potential retained salary)

    Philadelphia Flyers
    2018 1st round pick (WPG)
    2021 1st round pick swap rights
    2023 1st round pick swap rights
    Apr 20, 2018 at 3:02
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    I think a 1st and a prospect/young NHLer is enough.

    How about Fabbri and a conditional 2nd if he resigns and 3rd if he does not.
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    Apr 20, 2018 at 3:36
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    Quoting: phillyjabroni
    Don't really think that Barbashev has a long term role with Philly (which is why I declined haha).

    Personally, I'd be willing to do this, but it hasn't been done in the NHL before (future picks, that is):

    St. Louis Blues
    Wayne Simmonds (potential retained salary)

    Philadelphia Flyers
    2018 1st round pick (WPG)
    2021 1st round pick swap rights
    2023 1st round pick swap rights


    So like we give u a 1st, and swap 1sts, giving you the better in 1 or both of those years?

    But our 1sts will be 32oa???
    Apr 20, 2018 at 3:41
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    Apr 20, 2018 at 4:02
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    Quoting: Turner33
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    I'd be happy with using the WPG 1st and a prospect. Of all of Army's options, that is the base package he is most likely to use for a guy like Hoffman, RNH, Pacioretty, Simmonds, or whoever else becomes available. But I think Hexy is pretty stubborn about wanting to roll with guys that they drafted/developed internally, so he'd probably want something more like what @phillyjabroni is talking about. With PHI and STL on similar trajectories, I'm not sure if there's much risk to swapping 1sts so I'd probably do that, maybe not so far out though. Who trades picks 5 years out?
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    Apr 20, 2018 at 10:00
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    Quoting: A_K
    I'd be happy with using the WPG 1st and a prospect. Of all of Army's options, that is the base package he is most likely to use for a guy like Hoffman, RNH, Pacioretty, Simmonds, or whoever else becomes available. But I think Hexy is pretty stubborn about wanting to roll with guys that they drafted/developed internally, so he'd probably want something more like what @phillyjabroni is talking about. With PHI and STL on similar trajectories, I'm not sure if there's much risk to swapping 1sts so I'd probably do that, maybe not so far out though. Who trades picks 5 years out?


    I trade picks 5 years out haha.
    Apr 21, 2018 at 2:22
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    Quoting: Turner33


    I'd do it for package "C". Package "A" I'd probably want another prospect back and for package "B" I wouldn't do just because I'd want something similar to the Lehtera return. The draft picks swap thing I don't even see as a realistic option sorry Nick. I'm trying to be a bit more realistic than trying to turn this into a Hinkie trade lol.
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    Apr 21, 2018 at 10:43
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    Quoting: NateElder12
    I'd do it for package "C". Package "A" I'd probably want another prospect back and for package "B" I wouldn't do just because I'd want something similar to the Lehtera return. The draft picks swap thing I don't even see as a realistic option sorry Nick. I'm trying to be a bit more realistic than trying to turn this into a Hinkie trade lol.


    But Sobotka actually has some value as a hockey player. He's not just there to carry giroux's sticks/shower supplies/hair products like lehterable???
    Apr 21, 2018 at 12:42
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    Quoting: Turner33
    But Sobotka actually has some value as a hockey player. He's not just there to carry giroux's sticks/shower supplies/hair products like lehterable???


    Lol playoff lehtera is a force. Don't have.
    May 7, 2018 at 12:11
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