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Created by: ItWasIn
Team: 2018-19 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: May 1, 2018
Published: May 1, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
2$1,000,000
1$700,000
1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,600,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Demers, Jason
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5th overall pick in the 2018 NHL draft

CGY selects Oliver Wahlstrom. In 88 games in USDP/USHL he had 139 points this season.

As he is committed to Harvard he is at least one season away from being an NHLer. I don't wanna move Hamilton, but it's necessary if you wanna pick in the top 5. ARI almost acquired Hamilton from BOS in 2015 but that deal fell through at the last minute. Demers is sent to CGY as ARI will have OEL, Hamilton, Goligoski, Chychrun, Hjalmarsson already on the back end, I don't think they wanna pay Demers that much to play 3rd pair minute
2.
CGY
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
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2018 2nd round pick
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,000,000$57,780,042$0$1,427,500$21,219,958
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$6,750,000$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 4
$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 5
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 1
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 6
$4,300,000$4,300,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$1,950,000$1,950,000
C
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333
RW
UFA - 1
$705,000$705,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$1,600,000$1,600,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$950,000$950,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$3,375,000$3,375,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
$4,650,400$4,650,400
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$4,250,000$4,250,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
RFA - 3
$3,857,143$3,857,143
RD
UFA - 2
$755,833$755,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
UFA - 2
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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May 1, 2018 at 12:17 p.m.
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I like the Hamilton trade. Its interesting idea to say the least.

The Demers valuation is way off though. He's not worth that much from T.O. Not even close. Guy was traded for Jamie McGinn this past season.
May 1, 2018 at 12:29 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
I like the Hamilton trade. Its interesting idea to say the least.

The Demers valuation is way off though. He's not worth that much from T.O. Not even close. Guy was traded for Jamie McGinn this past season.


I think the issue with Demers was his NTC as he vetoed a trade to VAN and Florida wanted to get rid of him. Probably an overpayment though you are right, but maybe TOR is desperate enough for a serviceable too 4 D that won’t cost them a Nylander
May 1, 2018 at 12:31 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
I like the Hamilton trade. Its interesting idea to say the least.

The Demers valuation is way off though. He's not worth that much from T.O. Not even close. Guy was traded for Jamie McGinn this past season.


Kapanen has scored 8 NHL goals and 2 NHL assists in the 3 years and 11 months since being drafted. Demers isn't being traded for Matthews here.
May 1, 2018 at 12:32 p.m.
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Hamilton is not worth 5th overall , az cuts you out and sends demers to Toronto ,
May 1, 2018 at 12:33 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Kapanen has scored 8 NHL goals and 2 NHL assists in the 3 years and 11 months since being drafted. Demers isn't being traded for Matthews here.


Yeah but many can see this kid is stuck behind depth. Give him opportunity and he could surprise. He was very good in the playoffs.
May 1, 2018 at 12:35 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
Yeah but many can see this kid is stuck behind depth. Give him opportunity and he could surprise. He was very good in the playoffs.


1 goal, 0 assists in 7 games.

guys like connor brown are nice players, but the way leafs fans talk about kapanen, if he cant beat him out...
May 1, 2018 at 12:43 p.m.
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U overvalue Demers...
May 1, 2018 at 1:12 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
1 goal, 0 assists in 7 games.

guys like connor brown are nice players, but the way leafs fans talk about kapanen, if he cant beat him out...


Oh right. Cuz goals and assists are the only way to know if a player is good or not....... laugh Matthews has what 3 points? Stupid 4th liner i guess....

Nah man I have no allegiance to the leafs. I'm a Habs fan but i also try to be as non biased as possible. Kapanen was way better than I expected. Not top line player like Nylander or anything but potentially a good top 6/9.
May 1, 2018 at 1:14 p.m.
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Quoting: BigBeardBurns
U overvalue Demers...


Based off what? Demers hasn't exactly killed it or anything. Guy was shipped out by Florida for Jamie McGinn. I don't think anyone is undervaluing anyone. Demers is your average top 4. nothing special. What sets him apart is he is a RHD which are harder to come by.
May 1, 2018 at 1:55 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
Oh right. Cuz goals and assists are the only way to know if a player is good or not....... laugh Matthews has what 3 points? Stupid 4th liner i guess....

Nah man I have no allegiance to the leafs. I'm a Habs fan but i also try to be as non biased as possible. Kapanen was way better than I expected. Not top line player like Nylander or anything but potentially a good top 6/9.


Again, I'm speaking about this trade.

The Flames ship a good 2nd paring RHD AND 2nd round pick to the leafs, for a guy who has 10 points in 3 years and 11 months since being drafted.

You said thats not enough, I say Kapanen has proven nothing and is one of the worst performing 1st rounders of his draft class and is on the verge of being a bust
May 1, 2018 at 2:28 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Again, I'm speaking about this trade.

The Flames ship a good 2nd paring RHD AND 2nd round pick to the leafs, for a guy who has 10 points in 3 years and 11 months since being drafted.

You said thats not enough, I say Kapanen has proven nothing and is one of the worst performing 1st rounders of his draft class and is on the verge of being a bust


Again? Im talking about this trade too. The one where Demers is traded for Kapanen and a 2nd rounder!

I think you misinterpreted the trade. Its:

Kapanen
2nd round pick 2018 SJ
for
Demers

Look at Demers's track record. Traded for Mcginn. Traded for Dillon. We're not talking about a game breaker here. For 4.5M a year your getting a guy that is barely top 4.

Losing 4.5M in cap and getting a 21 year old with potential on a ELC that has played very well in the limited time he has been given AND a 2nd rounder?

Im not sure how you're justifying this here?
May 1, 2018 at 2:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Originalfan
Hamilton is not worth 5th overall , az cuts you out and sends demers to Toronto ,


A 24 year old top pairing 40 or even 50+ point Dman is not worth the 5th overall pick?

You people that over rate draft picks make my head hurt.

He's worth 5th overall and more. He's an actual star NHL player just heading into his prime, and not a ****ing magic bean. You realize that right?
May 1, 2018 at 3:09 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
Based off what? Demers hasn't exactly killed it or anything. Guy was shipped out by Florida for Jamie McGinn. I don't think anyone is undervaluing anyone. Demers is your average top 4. nothing special. What sets him apart is he is a RHD which are harder to come by.

I said OVERVALUE!! Read before u react, bro!
May 1, 2018 at 4:35 p.m.
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I said OVERVALUE!! Read before u react, bro!


Yup misread undervalue. Chill.
 
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