Trading the #1

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Team: 2018-19 Buffalo Sabres

Initial Creation Date: May 1, 2018

Published: May 1, 2018

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just looking at some potential trades for the Dahlin pick.

How logical is this.

Please be harsh with the comments

ps I would never trade this pick

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BUF

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Karlsson has an extension in place

OTT

Nylander, Alexander

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2018 #1
Rights to Lehner

BUF

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RIghts to Domi
OEL has an Extension in place

ARI

McCabe, Jake
2019 3rd round pick (BUF)

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2018 #1
Rights to Bailey

BUF

Fowler, Cam
Rakell, Rickard
2019 2nd round pick (ANA)
2020 2nd round pick (ANA)

ANA

Girgensons, Zemgus

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2018 #1

BUF

BOS

2018 #1

BUF

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Rights to Fox

CGY

2018 #1
2019 3rd

BUF

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2018 #2
Rights to Hanifin

CAR

O'Reilly, Ryan

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2018 #1

BUF

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Rights to Duclair

CHI

2018#1
Nylander

BUF

Compher, J.T.
Jost, Tyson
2019 1st round pick (COL)
2019 1st round pick (OTT)

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COL

2019 2nd round pick (BUF)

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2018 #1

BUF

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Rights to Murray

CBJ

2018 #1

10.

BUF

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2018#13

DAL

2018 #1

11.

BUF

2019 1st round pick (DET)

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Rights to Athanasiou
2018 #6

DET

2018 #1
2019 3rd

12.

BUF

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2018 #10

EDM

2018 #1

13.

BUF

Borgström, Henrik
Pysyk, Mark
Tippett, Owen
2019 1st round pick (FLA)

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2018 #15

FLA

2018 #1

14.

BUF

Muzzin, Jake
Petersen, Cal
Toffoli, Tyler
2019 1st round pick (LAK)

LAK

2018 #1
Nylander

15.

BUF

MIN

2018 #1

16.

BUF

Galchenyuk, Alex
Pacioretty, Max
2019 1st round pick (MTL)

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Pacioretty signs an extension
2018 #3

MTL

2018 #1
O'Reilly

17.

BUF

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Rights to Saros

NSH

2018 #1

18.

BUF

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2018 1st

NJD

2018 #1

19.

BUF

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Right to Pulock
2018 #11

NYI

2018 #1

20.

BUF

Kreider, Chris
2019 1st round pick (NYR)

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Rights to Skjei
2018 #9

NYR

2018 #1
Nylander

21.

BUF

Gostisbehere, Shayne
Laughton, Scott
2019 1st round pick (PHI)

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2018 #14

PHI

2018 #1
Nylander

22.

BUF

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RIghts to Sprong

PIT

2018 #1
Rights to Baptiste

23.

BUF

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RIghts to Hertl
2018 1st

SJS

2018#1

24.

BUF

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RIghts to Fabbri

STL

2018#1

25.

BUF

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Rights to Koekkoek

TBL

2018 #1

26.

BUF

TOR

2018 #1

27.

BUF

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2018 #7

VAN

2018 #1

28.

BUF

VGK

2018 #1
Nylander

29.

BUF

Burakovsky, André
Vrána, Jakub
2019 1st round pick (WSH)

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RIghts to Grubauer

WSH

2018#1

30.

BUF

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Rights to Trouba

WPG

2018 #1

Buyouts

Buried

Matt Moulson: $3,975,000 ($5,000,000)

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80	$79,000,000	$205,472,052	$0	$22,577,500	-$126,472,052

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 8	Okposo, Kyle $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 5
		Pominville, Jason $5,600,000$5,600,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1

Hoffman, Mike $5,187,500$5,187,500 LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Larsson, Johan $1,475,000$1,475,000 C, LW UFA - 1	DeBrincat, Alex $778,333$778,333 ($132,500$132K) LW, RW UFA - 2
DeBrusk, Jake $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) RW, LW UFA - 2	Mittelstadt, Casey $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, C RFA - 2	Anderson, Josh $1,850,000$1,850,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Skinner, Jeff $5,725,000$5,725,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Rodrigues, Evan $650,000$650,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Puljujärvi, Jesse $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) RW UFA - 1
Foegele, Warren $746,667$746,667 ($70,000$70K) LW, RW UFA - 2	Rakell, Rickard $2,463,139$2,463,139 RW, LW UFA - 4	Tippett, Owen $894,167$894,167 RW, LW UFA - 4
Saad, Brandon $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Donato, Ryan $900,000$900,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, C, RW UFA - 1	Toffoli, Tyler $4,600,000$4,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Milano, Sonny $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Bennett, Sam $1,950,000$1,950,000 C UFA - 1	Anderson, Joey $925,000$925,000 RW RFA - 2
Pacioretty, Max $4,050,000$4,050,000 LW UFA - 1	Compher, J.T. $925,000$925,000 ($100,000$100K) C, RW UFA - 1	Ho-Sang, Joshua $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) RW, C UFA - 1
Tolvanen, Eeli $894,166$894,166 ($962,500$962K) LW, RW RFA - 3	Jost, Tyson $885,833$885,833 ($850,000$850K) C UFA - 2	Meier, Timo $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1
Dal Colle, Michael $863,333$863,333 ($2,200,000$2M) LW UFA - 1	Faksa, Radek $2,200,000$2,200,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Marner, Mitchell $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW UFA - 1
Kreider, Chris $4,625,000$4,625,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Borgström, Henrik $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) C RFA - 2	Bracco, Jeremy $842,500$842,500 ($82,500$82K) RW UFA - 2
Guentzel, Jake $734,167$734,167 ($132,500$132K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Coyle, Charlie $3,200,000$3,200,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Tuch, Alex $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) RW, LW UFA - 1
Dahlén, Jonathan $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Eriksson Ek, Joel $894,167$894,167 ($425,000$425K) C UFA - 1
Burakovsky, André $3,000,000$3,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Galchenyuk, Alex $4,900,000$4,900,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 2
Vrána, Jakub $863,333$863,333 ($600,000$600K) LW UFA - 1	McLeod, Michael $863,333$863,333 ($500,000$500K) C RFA - 3
Ehlers, Nikolaj $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 7	Laughton, Scott $962,500$962,500 C, LW UFA - 1
	Point, Brayden $686,667$686,667 ($182,500$182K) C, RW UFA - 1
	Cirelli, Anthony $728,333$728,333 ($182,500$182K) C, LW UFA - 2
	Glass, Cody $894,167$894,167 C, RW RFA - 4
	Suzuki, Nick $894,167$894,167 C UFA - 4
	Roslovic, Jack $894,166$894,166 ($212,500$212K) C, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Scandella, Marco $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD UFA - 2	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,400,000$5,400,000 RD UFA - 4
Beaulieu, Nathan $2,400,000$2,400,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Bogosian, Zach $5,142,857$5,142,857 RD UFA - 2
		Condon, Mike $2,400,000$2,400,000 G UFA - 2
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $5,500,000$5,500,000 LD UFA - 1		Raanta, Antti $4,250,000$4,250,000 G UFA - 3
Fowler, Cam $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 8		Parsons, Tyler $759,167$759,167 ($182,500$182K) G UFA - 2
McAvoy, Charlie $916,667$916,667 ($500,000$500K) RD UFA - 1		Petersen, Cal $925,000$925,000 G UFA - 1
Hamilton, Dougie $5,750,000$5,750,000 RD UFA - 3		DeSmith, Casey $675,000$675,000 G UFA - 1
Heiskanen, Miro $894,166$894,166 ($2,500,000$2M) LD/RD UFA - 3		Dell, Aaron $1,900,000$1,900,000 G UFA - 2
Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD UFA - 5		Allen, Jake $4,350,000$4,350,000 G UFA - 3
Pysyk, Mark $2,733,333$2,733,333 RD UFA - 2		Demko, Thatcher $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) G UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 2
Brodin, Jonas $4,166,667$4,166,667 LD UFA - 3
Ellis, Ryan $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1
Severson, Damon $4,166,666$4,166,666 RD UFA - 5
Gostisbehere, Shayne $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 5
Määttä, Olli $3,333,225$3,333,225 LD UFA - 4
Parayko, Colton $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD UFA - 4
Sergachev, Mikhail $894,166$894,166 ($850,000$850K) LD/RD UFA - 2
Liljegren, Timothy $894,167$894,167 RD RFA - 4
Juolevi, Olli $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) LD UFA - 3
McNabb, Brayden $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD UFA - 4
Karlsson, Erik $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1

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FORWARDS (55)
Right Wing: Kyle Okposo ($6,000,000) - Jason Pominville ($5,600,000) - Alex DeBrincat ($778,333) - Josh Anderson ($1,850,000) - Jesse Puljujärvi ($925,000) - Owen Tippett ($894,167) - Tyler Toffoli ($4,600,000) - Joey Anderson ($925,000) - Joshua Ho-Sang ($863,333) - Timo Meier ($894,167) - Mitchell Marner ($894,167) - Jeremy Bracco ($842,500) - Alex Tuch ($925,000)
Centre: Jack Eichel ($10,000,000) - Johan Larsson ($1,475,000) - Casey Mittelstadt ($925,000) - Evan Rodrigues ($650,000) - Rickard Rakell ($2,463,139) - Ryan Donato ($900,000) - Sam Bennett ($1,950,000) - J.T. Compher ($925,000) - Tyson Jost ($885,833) - Radek Faksa ($2,200,000) - Henrik Borgström ($925,000) - Charlie Coyle ($3,200,000) - Joel Eriksson Ek ($894,167) - Alex Galchenyuk ($4,900,000) - Michael McLeod ($863,333) - Scott Laughton ($962,500) - Brayden Point ($686,667) - Anthony Cirelli ($728,333) - Cody Glass ($894,167) - Nick Suzuki ($894,167) - Jack Roslovic ($894,166)
Left Wing: Mike Hoffman ($5,187,500) - Jake DeBrusk ($863,333) - Jeff Skinner ($5,725,000) - Warren Foegele ($746,667) - Brandon Saad ($5,000,000) - Sonny Milano ($863,333) - Max Pacioretty ($4,050,000) - Eeli Tolvanen ($894,166) - Michael Dal Colle ($863,333) - Chris Kreider ($4,625,000) - Jake Guentzel ($734,167) - Jonathan Dahlén ($925,000) - André Burakovsky ($3,000,000) - Jakub Vrána ($863,333) - Nikolaj Ehlers ($6,000,000)

DEFENSE (25)
Right: Rasmus Ristolainen ($5,400,000) - Zach Bogosian ($5,142,857)
Left: Marco Scandella ($2,000,000) - Nathan Beaulieu ($2,400,000) - Oliver Ekman-Larsson ($5,500,000) - Cam Fowler ($6,500,000) - Charlie McAvoy ($916,667) - Dougie Hamilton ($5,750,000) - Miro Heiskanen ($894,166) - Oscar Klefbom ($4,167,000) - Mark Pysyk ($2,733,333) - Jake Muzzin ($4,000,000) - Jonas Brodin ($4,166,667) - Ryan Ellis ($2,500,000) - Damon Severson ($4,166,666) - Shayne Gostisbehere ($4,500,000) - Olli Määttä ($3,333,225) - Colton Parayko ($5,500,000) - Mikhail Sergachev ($894,166) - Timothy Liljegren ($894,167) - Olli Juolevi ($863,333) - Brayden McNabb ($2,500,000) - Erik Karlsson ($6,500,000)

GOALTENDER (10)
Mike Condon ($2,400,000) - Antti Raanta ($4,250,000) - Tyler Parsons ($759,167) - Cal Petersen ($925,000) - Casey DeSmith ($675,000) - Aaron Dell ($1,900,000) - Jake Allen ($4,350,000) - Thatcher Demko ($925,000)

BURIED (1)
Matt Moulson ($3,975,000)

BUYOUTS (3)
Christian Ehrhoff ($0) - Ville Leino ($0) - Cody Hodgson (-$458,333)

DETAILS
Roster Size: 80
Salary Cap: $79,000,000
Cap Hit: $205,472,052
Cap Space: -$126,472,052

May 1, 2018 at 11:57 p.m.

Eli

Who adds what?

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You've built a really good team. I wonder how much of it you could get if you traded down three spots, then another four, then five more...

Enough to get to the playoffs right away?

These trades all say, "the first overall pick is not available to you." But if you took a little bit away from each, I bet you could move down four or five times, until you miss out on your first round pick entirely, but end up with five good, young players, and five second round picks.

Sometimes a first overall pick is Alex Ovechkin. Sometimes it's Radek Bonk, or Alexandre Daigle. It's hard to tell.

May 2, 2018 at 12:03 a.m.

sabres89

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Botterill would need a 24/7 security detail if he considered moving dahlin.

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May 2, 2018 at 12:49 a.m.

wagsnags

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The season ticket holder base would mutiny....... the Pegula's, GMBots & Housley jerseys would be burn in effigy!!!!!

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May 2, 2018 at 1:02 a.m.

Eli

Who adds what?

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What if for that pick he got back a first, a handful of seconds, some thirds, a handful of players, a handful of prospects, and guys willing to take Bogosian and some other contracts? https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/677929 No?

My favorite trades, of the above, are the ones for Pittsburgh's and Tampa Bay's 2018 first round picks. I'm just not sure Ottawa or New York is selling.

May 2, 2018 at 8:28 a.m.

Viqsi

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Some of these are understandably extreme. But for the Jackets one, the first thought that came to mind was "that's all?"

Don't get me wrong; Anderson and Murray are very good players and Milano has very good potential as well... but for someone like Dahlin?

May 2, 2018 at 9:43 a.m.

bkips

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Boston fan here telling you to go kick rocks with that offer

May 2, 2018 at 10:25 a.m.

NikitaKucherov

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Dahlin isn't getting traded. He is what Buffalo needs right now.

Ottawa trade - Nylander is a top notch prospect that Buffalo needs to keep. Karlsson isn't looking to be a part of a rebuild, he wants to win, and he wants to win now.

Anaheim trade - Rakell is Anaheim's near future replacement for Getzlaf.

Boston trade - Your nuts if you think you can get all of that for Dahlin.

Carolina trade - Hanifin is the future of Carolina. They don't need Dahlin.

Dallas trade - Heiskanen isn't getting moved, Dallas picked him, and they are going to stick with him.

Florida trade - What are you thinking? Borgstrom is not getting traded.

Nashville trade - Saros is the future starter in Nashville, Nashville doesn't need Dahlin.

Islanders trade - I'm not sold on Dal Colle, he's already 21 and hasn't recorded his first point.

Tampa Bay trade - WHAT? POINT, SERGACHEV AND CIRELLI?

Toronto trade - Marner getting moved within the division? No thanks.

Vancouver trade - Demko is the future starter for Vancouver, not getting moved.

Overall, you are REALLY over valuing the 1st overall pick.

May 2, 2018 at 3:35 p.m.

sabres262

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Trading the #1

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