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Washington Capitals signed Ilya Samsonov (3 Years / $1,475,000 AAV)

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May 4, 2018 at 7:09
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Ilya Samsonov has signed a new contract with the Washington Capitals.
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LENGTH: 3 YEARS
EXPIRY STATUS: RFA
SIGNING TEAM: Washington CapitalsWashington Capitals
VALUE: $4,425,000
C.H.% : 1.23
SIGNING DATE: May 3, 2018
SOURCE: @CapFriendly
SEASONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY
2018-19$925,000$1,475,000$500,000$92,500$832,500$925,000$70,000
2019-20$925,000$1,475,000$550,000$92,500$832,500$925,000$70,000
2020-21$925,000$1,475,000$600,000$92,500$832,500$925,000$70,000
TOTAL$2,775,000$4,425,000$1,650,000$277,500$2,497,500$2,775,000$210,000
May 4, 2018 at 7:21
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here we go. begs the question if they trade Holtby after next season - keeping them both around after Holtbys current contract expires will probably be superfluous and expensive.
May 4, 2018 at 7:26
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Quoting: Barathrum_Obama
here we go. begs the question if they trade Holtby after next season - keeping them both around after Holtbys current contract expires will probably be superfluous and expensive.


They'll trade Grubauer before Holtby. Especially given the playoff performances of both. Samsonov will play at least two seasons in the AHL. Maybe they can sign Khudobin or Ward to be a back up
May 4, 2018 at 7:29
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Quoting: Chopper02
They'll trade Grubauer before Holtby. Especially given the playoff performances of both. Samsonov will play at least two seasons in the AHL. Maybe they can sign Khudobin or Ward to be a back up


I'm thinking the caps are in a similar situation as Tampa with Bishop and Vasilevskiy - Samsonov has nothing to prove in the AHL anymore. if they trade Grubauer now, they can go with Holtby-Samsonov next year and for 2019/2020 Samsonov could be taking over at best and split the starts with Holtby at worst.
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May 4, 2018 at 7:33
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Quoting: Barathrum_Obama
I'm thinking the caps are in a similar situation as Tampa with Bishop and Vasilevskiy - Samsonov has nothing to prove in the AHL anymore. if they trade Grubauer now, they can go with Holtby-Samsonov next year and for 2019/2020 Samsonov could be taking over at best and split the starts with Holtby at worst.


Samsonov hasn't played in the AHL yet. He's played in the KHL and done well, but the KHL (and European leagues as whole) don't create the same net front presence as we see in North America. That will take some adjusting to figure out how to play around the guys in front.
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May 4, 2018 at 8:30
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Could this announcement been done later? Caps are in a playoff battle. Is shouldn't affect their play but what are the trade eligible Holtby and Grubauer thinking.
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May 4, 2018 at 10:05
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The NHL’s next elite goaltender has arrived rock on

Next year, he either gets starters time in Hershey with some NHL stars sprinkled in, or he gets the backup role. I’d personally expect the Caps to sign a guy like Lehtonen to be Holtby’s backup, trade Grubauer and let Samsonov carry a heavy workload
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May 4, 2018 at 10:08
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Quoting: krakowitz
The NHL’s next elite goaltender has arrived rock on

Next year, he either gets starters time in Hershey with some NHL stars sprinkled in, or he gets the backup role. I’d personally expect the Caps to sign a guy like Lehtonen to be Holtby’s backup, trade Grubauer and let Samsonov carry a heavy workload


Yup I agree!! Samsonov will be a crazy good goalie and that is scary for a penguins fan!
May 4, 2018 at 10:58
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mmm, I would actually see how Samsonov does in his first AHL season before spittin' any "trade Holtby!" taekz. Goalie development is notoriously finicky and non-linear, even for general hockey player standards.

it's fine to say, "yeah, he could be good," but anointing him the starter before he's played a game on North American ice is hasty.
May 4, 2018 at 12:16
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Quoting: Chopper02
Samsonov hasn't played in the AHL yet. He's played in the KHL and done well, but the KHL (and European leagues as whole) don't create the same net front presence as we see in North America. That will take some adjusting to figure out how to play around the guys in front.


if you really think the caps are going to stuff him in the AHL for two+ years you're going to have a worse situation than what the Flyers had with Bob... He'll be playing in the NHL sooner than you think or he'll go back to Russia.
May 4, 2018 at 12:26
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Quoting: NateElder12
if you really think the caps are going to stuff him in the AHL for two+ years you're going to have a worse situation than what the Flyers had with Bob... He'll be playing in the NHL sooner than you think or he'll go back to Russia.


It won't be a full two years. Probably 1+ like Vas in Tampa with short stints in the NHL
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May 4, 2018 at 1:19
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Quoting: Barathrum_Obama
I'm thinking the caps are in a similar situation as Tampa with Bishop and Vasilevskiy - Samsonov has nothing to prove in the AHL anymore. if they trade Grubauer now, they can go with Holtby-Samsonov next year and for 2019/2020 Samsonov could be taking over at best and split the starts with Holtby at worst.


I would say more it's more like the pens situation, but add in grubauer. If im the gm I trade grubauer now, have samsanov in ahl for 1-2 years bring up to battle with Holtby and then trade Holtby. if samsanov adapts quickly and plays well I think holtby could be a cap for 1 season or so
May 4, 2018 at 1:20
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Quoting: Missouri
Yup I agree!! Samsonov will be a crazy good goalie and that is scary for a penguins fan!


I would rather say cam ward, lehtonen isnt much good anymore
May 4, 2018 at 1:43
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Quoting: bixjohnson
I would rather say cam ward, lehtonen isnt much good anymore


Lehtonen put up a .912 last season and showed he can still succeed in a backup role, while Ward put up a .906 behind a defense that doesn't give up a lot of shots. Advantage Lehtonen.
May 4, 2018 at 2:23
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
Lehtonen put up a .912 last season and showed he can still succeed in a backup role, while Ward put up a .906 behind a defense that doesn't give up a lot of shots. Advantage Lehtonen.


I see what your saying but I still stand by Cam Ward over Lehtonen.
May 4, 2018 at 4:15
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Quoting: krakowitz
The NHL’s next elite goaltender has arrived rock on

Next year, he either gets starters time in Hershey with some NHL stars sprinkled in, or he gets the backup role. I’d personally expect the Caps to sign a guy like Lehtonen to be Holtby’s backup, trade Grubauer and let Samsonov carry a heavy workload


The best goalie imo outside the NHL. Carried Mettallurg to the finals last year and the year before at just 19/20 years old.
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May 4, 2018 at 8:15
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Happy Trails Philipp! Grubauer's value might have taken a hit from his short playoff performance but he proved during the RS that he can be a solid starter in the NHL. He is easily the best goalie available on the UFA or RFA trade market (yes, I think he's better than Lehner) and someone better let the caps win a trade this summer if they can't win a damn playoff series lol
May 5, 2018 at 10:01
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I think they get rid of Grubauer and put Samsonov in his place as Holtby's backup for now. Until he fully grows when that happens you can get rid of Holtby. The thing is Grubauer doesn't have a contract after this year. You can keep Holtby for the rest of his contract, or just keep him for one year and trade him next season.
May 5, 2018 at 11:28
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I voted no just for fun
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May 5, 2018 at 4:09
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Apparently, Maclellan promised Samsonov a heavy workload in Hershey for next year, so I expect that's where he starts. We can trade Grubauer and sign a replacement, cheaper backup.
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May 5, 2018 at 9:32
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the new generation is starting to fill up the league...

Gibson, Vasilevskiy, Murray, Hellebuyck.... and soon Jaros, Demko, Samsanov and Hart..
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