Quoting: Eli
Great point. For a non-basketball fan who wouldn't understand simple examples if you showed me five of them, do sign and trade deals bring back as much as trades of guys currently on fair contracts? If not, about what percentage off?
Thanks!
Whoooo boy....
Lesseee here. Are you paying me to teach you to count? No.
No, you are not.
The amount traded for him was just a guess. Tavares will want 8 years, at least that's my guess, no matter where he plays, he will want that 8th year. So to do that he either needs to be traded before July 1st, or signed by the NYI and then traded. So if I were GM of the NYI, I would want a haul to send him to any team, and to a division rival, yes, it would cost more. Its just hard to gauge what the asking price would be.
Quoting: NateElder12
@Eli
lol you're not making any sense.. You don't agree that paying him $77M over 7 OR $72M over 8 is better than the $88M over 8 that is reflected above. I said giving up picks and prospects for $72M over 8 is fine with me, but giving up all of those picks and then a prospect but still paying $88M over 8 just seems like a massive overpayment. Sorry that i just can't agree with you on that man.
You are looking at total $$$ and thinking the GM can decide if he wants to give that to him over 7 or 8 years, if Tavares demands 8 years, and wants lets say 88 mil, thats what you get, if he only wants 7 years, and 77 mil, then you see if you can trade for him, add that 8th year, and see if you can still keep it at 77 mil. I just dont see him signing for less then 10.5mil no matter how many years he is signed for.
Quoting: alwaysnextyear
I agree with your premise that Snow (and any other GM in his situation) would be incredibly smart to try for a sign-and-trade if they think there's a decent chance their asset walks for nothing. It would definitely get them back a significant package of assets. The problem is in evaluating what that return would be, because this type of trade just doesn't seem to happen in hockey like it does in basketball.
The value of the return IMO would be:
X for Western Conference team
X+Y for Non-division Eastern conference team
X+Y+Z for divisional team.
But who the hell knows what that team is thinking at this point. I am sure the closer to July 1st it gets, the more they will panic.