Andrew Shaw is gonna devalue the third overall, not move you up a spot. In what way is Gallagher worth the 10th overall AND poolparty?

Gallagher is worth a good first round pick but not a top 10 tho

Canes just moved Kruger, why trade down for Shaw

If they want Zadina anyway, they get Shaw for free. Shaw certainly won't hurt the gutless Canes.

Testing to see how excited Oilers fans are to get Gallagher. Every time I've ever seen deals with Edmonton, they've always had Gallagher, so I thought I'd see what he'd bring. Can't fault me for asking, since Gallagher is exactly the kind of player the Oilers are missing.

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Figured there's a renewed interest in making the playoffs. I suspect trading for and then trading away Kruger is the kind of deal that got Francis and Nieuwendyk fired.

It really all depends on his injury status though. Normally, under normal circumstances, anyone who implies Shaw is a cap dump or whatever doesn't know what they are talking about. He was legit good for the Habs.....until he got concussed twice in a short span. The 3rd one, which looked bad to boot, is what scares me.

Shaw is a good player, solid top 9 -3rd line player but for him to be effective he can't play scared and i have a gut feeling the past 3 concussions will play a part in his future effectiveness. If he comes out of the gates after his injury and plays like Shaw of old then sure but otherwise it makes no sense for the Canes. Yes he might actually weaken them by taking up a roster spot at a cap hit that was already high to begin with.

I like the Flames deal.

The Carolina deal is dumb because there's nothing to separate Zadina and Svechnikov at this point. You have lots of cap room to keep Shaw, especially since he's out until Decmber.

Oilers: screw that. If Puljujarvi can't figure out how to score with McDavid and RNH, what do you think he'll do in Montreal? He's headed for bust status. Not sure he's better than Scherbak anyway. Trade Gallagher to Vancouver, just to **** with the Oilers.

Sure he is. He's a bonafide 40 to 60 pointer every year. And he's not a figure skater, like most of the Oilers.

Enfin, someone who understands Shaw's value.

Shaw is MTLs M Staal. Hopefully he can be useful somehow, or even better LTIR. NO team will gamble on a long term contract, even at half retained. Too risky. Tsn 690 were saying 3/4 concussions in last calendar year, yikes!!!...which way to the rink???

One playoffs and he has more than paid for himself. When he's on LTIR, he's no burden and covered by insurance -- at least for the duration of this contract.

Sorry Truebeliever, your trying to convince non Habs fans as well as Habs fans that a multi concussed Shaw is worth his weight. He may very well be. But we don't know that and with his injury history its a pointless gamble. He could be healthy enough to play but not play at 100% Shaw is capable of. There is no LTIR for that. That's simply a waste of cap space. A less physical Shaw who tries to play on the perimeter helps no one.

He could very well be the Shaw of old and make the Canes look like geniuses. No one knows. One can only place odds and most people would place the odds at that not being very strong. Hence an unneeded gamble.

Agreed, which is why I framed it as a no-risk move for the Canes, since they'll likely get the player they want most out of the draft anyway and they've got tons of cap to burn.

The draft pick isn't the risk. The player they are getting with the pick is the risk. Simply having cap space isn't a good excuse to make an ill advised gamble. Say it doesn't work out and that 3.9M could of been used towards signing Tavares for example? With Shaw maybe they couldn't afford JT. See the risk. At the best case scenario, they get a slightly over paid 3rd liner with cup experience.

At least these are some more unique trades I've seen in a while. I'd still pick Zadina over Svech personally, the trade up for 2nd OVA is not exactly benificial to the Canes. I'm down for that Gallagher trade, he's at his highest value coming off his best season. That's about the realistic amount it would take to get Tavares to MTL, as well. Otherwise, a nice thought provoking Armchair team

Thanks, man. Appreciate your thoughts.