Might surprise some of you fans to know that Stlouis actually offered up a package that included Thomas, 1st round pick, Sobotka, and Allen for Price (no money retained). MTL said no.

I read through all three pages of this post and chose to quote this post because I think it is possibly the dumbest one of this thread. I know Stlouis gets ‘older’ in this trade but by like a year? Lol

Scherbak is 23, Gallagher 26, Pacioretty 29 and you draft a 18 year old. For a bunch of second round 20 year olds who haven’t made the show yet. Out of those prospects you have 1 blue chip guy that you know will make the NHL and that’s Thomas, and he isn’t even guaranteed anything in the NHL, he might be a top line 70 point guy or he might just be another 50 point center.

Getting proven assets will always be more valuable then the chance of mid level prospects. Getting those proven players at a good age is even more valuable, all three of these players are at a good age and under very friendly contracts. The day this trade gets made, St Louis wins it, a year from now Stlouis still wins this trade, five years from now they still win the trade, 10 years from now when Zadina is the only piece left St. Louis has still won this trade.

6th 1 star from here. These trades are so freaking bad that they look like these were made by Peter Chiarelli.

That STL trade... ehh, from my point of view, STL aren't in the win-now mode from their team's perspective, and they are waiting for their young future stars before going for their cup run. That became even more evident when they traded Stastny for future prospects. So why would they do this? They have one of the best prospect pools in the entire league that is going to shine in the league in 2 or 3 years. They'd be stupid as hell to trade them away, especially for assets players you suggested. Gallagher is overrated by every Habs fan in this league, Pacioretty isn't worth nearly as much as he was a year ago after having a worst season of his career, and Scherbak isn't even a proven NHL player when it comes to playing in a good team... And as a cherry to the top, after you had suggested emptying big part of their prospect pool, you give them a 3rd overall pick?
Why, if you considered getting some youth to your team, you'd give up the youngest and potentially the best part of your future away? It's so illogical. And taking that trade for Blues is illogical, it would tear their whole process of having a great prospects to pieces. Absolutely illogical.

NSH trade... yeah, no one will take that Price's horrid contract. If an over 10 million player that plays less than half of the games in the league from last 3 years, he is not worth to trade for, no matter how good of a player he is. Just too big of a risk, and a financial threat. And besides, I doubt that Preds can even afford to take him in a longer scale, even if you consider retaining a little under third from his salary. Kind of proves my point about him, his contract is so bad of a liability you'd agree to part 24 million bucks in 8 years from your team's salary cap just to get rid of him. So why would anyone take it?

PHI trade... Nah, the team has very young defensive core, so taking Petry might actually help. But not with that Price. Second and a third seems much more realistic than first and a second, when it comes to additions in the trade. Their contracts have no gap between them, and Petry isn't so much of a better player than McDonald is.

And the BUF trade... Well, I don't see why both of the participants of this trade would do this. At the state that Buffalo is in, taking Weber might not be in their interest just yet. Especially if it means to sell their better prospects. And from MTL's perspective, I think you could do better than that.

Ah, true. Maybe Berglund and Dunn then and balance it out with Juulsen. But seriously that's a stupid many moving pieces in that trade.

Ah, true. Maybe Berglund and Dunn then and balance it out with Juulsen. But seriously that's a stupid many moving pieces in that trade.

Now you're just trolling. Every time the Habs made the playoffs was always cause of Price. NSH was always done so collectively.

Berglund also has NTC. Also, Dunn has proven he can play in the pros. With Bowmeester done soon, he'll take over that spot permanently

I read through all three pages of this post and chose to quote this post because I think it is possibly the dumbest one of this thread. I know Stlouis gets ‘older’ in this trade but by like a year? Lol

Scherbak is 23, Gallagher 26, Pacioretty 29 and you draft a 18 year old. For a bunch of second round 20 year olds who haven’t made the show yet. Out of those prospects you have 1 blue chip guy that you know will make the NHL and that’s Thomas, and he isn’t even guaranteed anything in the NHL, he might be a top line 70 point guy or he might just be another 50 point center.

Getting proven assets will always be more valuable then the chance of mid level prospects. Getting those proven players at a good age is even more valuable, all three of these players are at a good age and under very friendly contracts. The day this trade gets made, St Louis wins it, a year from now Stlouis still wins this trade, five years from now they still win the trade, 10 years from now when Zadina is the only piece left St. Louis has still won this trade.

I chose to quote this because I call bull ****. PAC-MAN 29 gets injured. Scherzbak where the hell do you fit him in the blues? Gallagher where the hell do you place him? Money doesn’t grow on people’s ass. All three are older and have huge contracts. Money doesnt grow on asses bro. So bullshit this deal wouldn’t go through one not enough value for the Blues. 2 Not enough money. 3 Blues aren’t stupid to give up every prospect for 2 players worth of cap dump. Only way this trade would even be able to be approved is if MTL retains about 35 to 40% of the contract. Also why I said old is because 2 are out of there prime. We would give up 4 players missing there prime for MTL’s after prime players. If you make this trade then good thing You aren’t the Blues GM cuz of you were RIP and GG. You played yourself there. You just made the second dumbest comment behind @The_Architect

You don't know how to calculate? What's the total cap hit on those 3 assets you're getting in return? I'm not gonna calculate for you, I already know it's peanuts.

Yea how would ou know that when the blues are almost at ceiling. For 4 at 925K at top for 3 over 3 mil that means we just gained 7 million in cap

Yea how would ou know that when the blues are almost at ceiling. For 4 at 925K at top for 3 over 3 mil that means we just gained 7 million in cap

You don't know how to calculate? What's the total cap hit on those 3 assets you're getting in return? I'm not gonna calculate for you, I already know it's peanuts.

That’s def over the cap bud. Try to get someone else to cheese a deal on

It's ok I'll do it for you. Sobotka 3 mill is off the books so is upshall and Brodziak. Stastny's 3.5 mill retention is gone also. And the cap is going up.

Sobotka is still on books. Bouwmeester yea and and Berglund, and and what wa his name oh we want to sign John Tavares.

Sobotka is still on books. Bouwmeester yea and and Berglund, and and what wa his name oh we want to sign John Tavares.

How's sobotka on the Books when he's part of the package going back to MTL? And what the F does Bow has to do with anything?

Bouwmeester has a 5.4 contract

Brodziak might get resigned and also resigning Edmundson and Fabbri

Bouwmeester has a 5.4 contract

What do you think Edmudson and Fabbri gonna get? Anything over 2 mill would be obsurd. Fabbri has to get a bridge considering his bad luck with injuries.

You can still fit all the players I gave You, even with Bow's cap hit.

Fabbri is getting a 2.25 mil contract. Edmundson is getting a 2.5 and if Huts resigns that is another 3 mil.

Fabbri is getting a 2.25 mil contract. Edmundson is getting a 2.5 and if Huts resigns that is another 3 mil.

I chose to quote this because I call bull ****. PAC-MAN 29 gets injured. Scherzbak where the hell do you fit him in the blues? Gallagher where the hell do you place him? Money doesn’t grow on people’s ass. All three are older and have huge contracts. Money doesnt grow on asses bro. So bullshit this deal wouldn’t go through one not enough value for the Blues. 2 Not enough money. 3 Blues aren’t stupid to give up every prospect for 2 players worth of cap dump. Only way this trade would even be able to be approved is if MTL retains about 35 to 40% of the contract. Also why I said old is because 2 are out of there prime. We would give up 4 players missing there prime for MTL’s after prime players. If you make this trade then good thing You aren’t the Blues GM cuz of you were RIP and GG. You played yourself there. You just made the second dumbest comment behind @The_Architect