You really are simple minded aren’t you. You went from arguing that the value wasn’t there because of talent, I call you out and explain how your wrong and you then go to a cap arguement.

So let me just clear this whole “where would they play” and “trading prospects for cap dumps”. Where would they play? In your top 6 INSTANTLY, you only have Tarasenko on your right side, Gallagher and Scherbak would step in as your 2 & 3 right wingers = Upgrade, Pacioretty would get time on the top line and second line, find the best fit and done. Gallagher and Pacioretty would also step into your power play units, Gallagher probably on #2, Pacioretty where ever he has the best chemistry could play either.

Then there’s the cap dump comment, Pacioretty I can understand, when he resigns it’s most likely a 6.5-7 million dollar contract but proven 30 goal scorers don’t come cheap. But as for Gallagher we’ll he was one of the cheapest players to score 30 goals this year, paying him $3.7 for the next four years to be a top six player is a steal. Then you have Scherbak and a top 3 pick on entry level contracts. Even if you lose Pacioretty I’m free agency they still have 2 top six wingers and a top 9 winger for under $6 million for the next 3 years. So don’t say the Blues can’t afford it moving forward, having three potential top 6 players for 7.5% of your cap is a teams dream come true.

I also just noticed that you said 2 of them are out of their prime, which two? Pacioretty maybe has a shot at declining but this was his first injury filled year in the past 5, and guess what he did the 4 he was healthy? You guessed it - put up 60+ points, without a center. Give him a healthy year, put him Schenn and Tarasenko and you have a 70p campaign coming. But who was the other? The 26 year old who just had a break out 30 goal year, the 21 year old who hasn’t even played 50 nhl games yet or how about the yet undrafted top 3 pick?

Montreal loses this trade, just face it.

You really are simple minded aren’t you. You went from arguing that the value wasn’t there because of talent, I call you out and explain how your wrong and you then go to a cap arguement.

So let me just clear this whole “where would they play” and “trading prospects for cap dumps”. Where would they play? In your top 6 INSTANTLY, you only have Tarasenko on your right side, Gallagher and Scherbak would step in as your 2 & 3 right wingers = Upgrade, Pacioretty would get time on the top line and second line, find the best fit and done. Gallagher and Pacioretty would also step into your power play units, Gallagher probably on #2, Pacioretty where ever he has the best chemistry could play either.

Then there’s the cap dump comment, Pacioretty I can understand, when he resigns it’s most likely a 6.5-7 million dollar contract but proven 30 goal scorers don’t come cheap. But as for Gallagher we’ll he was one of the cheapest players to score 30 goals this year, paying him $3.7 for the next four years to be a top six player is a steal. Then you have Scherbak and a top 3 pick on entry level contracts. Even if you lose Pacioretty I’m free agency they still have 2 top six wingers and a top 9 winger for under $6 million for the next 3 years. So don’t say the Blues can’t afford it moving forward, having three potential top 6 players for 7.5% of your cap is a teams dream come true.

I also just noticed that you said 2 of them are out of their prime, which two? Pacioretty maybe has a shot at declining but this was his first injury filled year in the past 5, and guess what he did the 4 he was healthy? You guessed it - put up 60+ points, without a center. Give him a healthy year, put him Schenn and Tarasenko and you have a 70p campaign coming. But who was the other? The 26 year old who just had a break out 30 goal year, the 21 year old who hasn’t even played 50 nhl games yet or how about the yet undrafted top 3 pick?

Montreal loses this trade, just face it.

Amen!! I had no more patience to actually do a break down like this. He just refuses cause of his emotional attachment to those prospects.

Philadelphia has no incentive to move the 19th overall pick for someone they do not need.

and you have emotional drawbacks to your "elite" players which makes you lopside trades. for instance a f ucking 1st, prospect, allen and a top 6 forward for Price who has fallen off because of injuries. and dont f ucking say that just because he gets injured doesnt matter because it does because if we get screwed with a guy who gets injured all the time we dont have a true starter anymore we have Husso who isnt just ready quite yet.

Stop talking as if you represent them on any professional level. And if you do, post your credentials so everyone can see.

Stop talking as if you represent them on any professional level. And if you do, post your credentials so everyone can see.

and you have emotional drawbacks to your "elite" players which makes you lopside trades. for instance a f ucking 1st, prospect, allen and a top 6 forward for Price who has fallen off because of injuries. and dont f ucking say that just because he gets injured doesnt matter because it does because if we get screwed with a guy who gets injured all the time we dont have a true starter anymore we have Husso who isnt just ready quite yet.

You really are simple minded aren’t you. You went from arguing that the value wasn’t there because of talent, I call you out and explain how your wrong and you then go to a cap arguement.

So let me just clear this whole “where would they play” and “trading prospects for cap dumps”. Where would they play? In your top 6 INSTANTLY, you only have Tarasenko on your right side, Gallagher and Scherbak would step in as your 2 & 3 right wingers = Upgrade, Pacioretty would get time on the top line and second line, find the best fit and done. Gallagher and Pacioretty would also step into your power play units, Gallagher probably on #2, Pacioretty where ever he has the best chemistry could play either.

Then there’s the cap dump comment, Pacioretty I can understand, when he resigns it’s most likely a 6.5-7 million dollar contract but proven 30 goal scorers don’t come cheap. But as for Gallagher we’ll he was one of the cheapest players to score 30 goals this year, paying him $3.7 for the next four years to be a top six player is a steal. Then you have Scherbak and a top 3 pick on entry level contracts. Even if you lose Pacioretty I’m free agency they still have 2 top six wingers and a top 9 winger for under $6 million for the next 3 years. So don’t say the Blues can’t afford it moving forward, having three potential top 6 players for 7.5% of your cap is a teams dream come true.

I also just noticed that you said 2 of them are out of their prime, which two? Pacioretty maybe has a shot at declining but this was his first injury filled year in the past 5, and guess what he did the 4 he was healthy? You guessed it - put up 60+ points, without a center. Give him a healthy year, put him Schenn and Tarasenko and you have a 70p campaign coming. But who was the other? The 26 year old who just had a break out 30 goal year, the 21 year old who hasn’t even played 50 nhl games yet or how about the yet undrafted top 3 pick?

Montreal loses this trade, just face it.

I am stating basic facts based on information that General Manager Ron Hextall has said in a press conference. Anyone who casually follows this team has a fundamental understanding of what the long term vision is.

Price gets injured as much as every other goalie in the league. Quick, Crawford, Holtby, Bobrovski, Gibbson, Bishop, Fleury, Murray etc. etc.

we get nothing that helps us in this trade.

Hell no. why am I arguing with a kid first of all. and the cap is just a added effect to why the trade is lopsided in MTL's favor. Are you a MTL fan to? I wouldn't be surprised if you were because every other person that either are Blues fan, or are a fan of a different team all voted 1 STAR because you believe your "stars" are worth more than they are. and I am not going to have this R etarded argument with a 12 year old. Plain and simple MTL fans learn what the value of your players are. Only 2 thing I would take in the trade. Scherzbak and 4OA. Problem is you guys are trying to dump cap on us which army will not accept. Not for almost every top prospect we have. go cheese the f ucking rangers instead.

You're answering on Jabrony's behalf?

You believe all the garbage GMs say?. Are you telling me that there's isnt an offer in the world that you wouldn't trade the 19th OAP for?

It’s funny you think your argueing with a 12 year old since I actually articulate arguements and give facts to support my claims. But I get it, your scared because you lost this arguement so your resorting to swearing and calling people names.

And I am a Montreal fan, in this market we actually tend to be the more critical of our players. But trying to tell me that the left winger who has scored the fourth most goals in the NHL since 2013 isnt elite and that a 26 year old winger who just got his first of what could be multiple 30 goal seasons isn’t elite then we’ll it really shows me that your either a ridiculously ignorant person or you don’t know that much about hockey.

Either way, you can respond with another out burst or you can do what I did, state your opinion, back it up with facts and then dispel all the non sense other people try to post. I just completed that third step.

@The_Architect - just want to keep you up on this dispute.

montreal fans need to learn there players place. Pac's value fell because of injury. gallagher sure okay 30 goal scorer send him of the first line. still not worth kyrou. a 100 POINT SEASON. If you want to know why you guys aren't winning cups. Look at what you guys think is fair deals. why have you guys not won a cup since the 20th century. because you think Pac, Gallagher, Schezbak, and not even 4oa you gave a 2019 pick to keep the 4oa. for a 100 point producer, a 1st round pick for THIS year, a player who looks like a top 3 guy to come in thomas. a nhl ready 20+ goal scorer in thompson, a should have been TOP 10 PICK but no one wanted to risk it except Blues. and the funniest thing is you think its fair to give 4 in a way first round picks for that. if anyone doesnt know hockey its you guys. because you wont give what they are actually worth. @Ragsandbluesfan @The_Real_FBGM_37 @MT_11 and more of these guys all agree with me I would not offer 4 first round picks for Pacioretty, Gallagher, scherzbak and not even the 4oa its the 2019 pick just so you can keep the 4oa to pick one of the top 5 guys. Anyone agree. I think that is the concept of what is lopsided. take your f ucking players and go find someone else to cheese.

It’s funny you think your argueing with a 12 year old since I actually articulate arguements and give facts to support my claims. But I get it, your scared because you lost this arguement so your resorting to swearing and calling people names.

And I am a Montreal fan, in this market we actually tend to be the more critical of our players. But trying to tell me that the left winger who has scored the fourth most goals in the NHL since 2013 isnt elite and that a 26 year old winger who just got his first of what could be multiple 30 goal seasons isn’t elite then we’ll it really shows me that your either a ridiculously ignorant person or you don’t know that much about hockey.

Either way, you can respond with another out burst or you can do what I did, state your opinion, back it up with facts and then dispel all the non sense other people try to post. I just completed that third step.

@The_Architect - just want to keep you up on this dispute.

You're answering on Jabrony's behalf?

You wanna know simple minded. You a person who never played the game in your life, never coached, never GMed. Me 6 years of starting goalie. was heading to sarnia before a 3 ACL tears in 2 years. You know what else I coached for 4 years as a high school then I decided to coach a select team. so what do you call simple minded in picking my players wisely. and what is simple minded when my hand picked team wins 3 years in a row?

Ugh now your just getting sad. Don’t need your resume to see how qualified you are for your fantasy league. I think it’s safe to assume everyone one here has some history in hockey, one way or another. Personally Iv played hockey every year of my life since I was 3, does that make me an expert, no. But am I smart enough to look at that trade and see that trading 4 actually valuable pieces for 2 centers over the age of 30 who combined for a total of 21 points last year, and 4 kids who haven’t even played an NHL game yet is a ridiculously one sided trade.

Add in the fact that out of those 4 picks, 2 were drafted in the first round, one in the second and one in the 6th.

So let me ask you, would you trade Max Pacioretty, Brendan Gallagher, Nikita Scherbak (that’s how you spell it by the way) and #3 overall for #20, #31, #35 and #156?

That’s basically how this trade lays out. If you want me to break it down further for you I can, but make sure you have your calculator and dictionary out so I don’t get you lost in the statistics or the reasoning.

First even tho a few are not first round Kyrou, Thomas, Kostin, and Thompson all play like they were picked in the first round and Kyrou was the ONLY NON FIRST ROUND PICK. Thompson, Kostin, Thomas were all first round. So do I need to refer you to the website?

Ugh now your just getting sad. Don’t need your resume to see how qualified you are for your fantasy league. I think it’s safe to assume everyone one here has some history in hockey, one way or another. Personally Iv played hockey every year of my life since I was 3, does that make me an expert, no. But am I smart enough to look at that trade and see that trading 4 actually valuable pieces for 2 centers over the age of 30 who combined for a total of 21 points last year, and 4 kids who haven’t even played an NHL game yet is a ridiculously one sided trade.

Add in the fact that out of those 4 picks, 2 were drafted in the first round, one in the second and one in the 6th.

So let me ask you, would you trade Max Pacioretty, Brendan Gallagher, Nikita Scherbak (that’s how you spell it by the way) and #3 overall for #20, #31, #35 and #156?

That’s basically how this trade lays out. If you want me to break it down further for you I can, but make sure you have your calculator and dictionary out so I don’t get you lost in the statistics or the reasoning.

montreal fans need to learn there players place. Pac's value fell because of injury. gallagher sure okay 30 goal scorer send him of the first line. still not worth kyrou. a 100 POINT SEASON. If you want to know why you guys aren't winning cups. Look at what you guys think is fair deals. why have you guys not won a cup since the 20th century. because you think Pac, Gallagher, Schezbak, and not even 4oa you gave a 2019 pick to keep the 4oa. for a 100 point producer, a 1st round pick for THIS year, a player who looks like a top 3 guy to come in thomas. a nhl ready 20+ goal scorer in thompson, a should have been TOP 10 PICK but no one wanted to risk it except Blues. and the funniest thing is you think its fair to give 4 in a way first round picks for that. if anyone doesnt know hockey its you guys. because you wont give what they are actually worth. @Ragsandbluesfan @The_Real_FBGM_37 @MT_11 and more of these guys all agree with me I would not offer 4 first round picks for Pacioretty, Gallagher, scherzbak and not even the 4oa its the 2019 pick just so you can keep the 4oa to pick one of the top 5 guys. Anyone agree. I think that is the concept of what is lopsided. take your f ucking players and go find someone else to cheese.

Im sorry but when was the last time St Louis won a cup? or maybe even made a conference final? and Kyrou was a 100 point player in the OHL as a 20 year old. he should be putting up those numbers against guys who are typically 2 years younger than him. Where are you getting 4 first round picks? Thomas #20, Kostin #31, and everyone else was drafted after that. You can talk about valuing your players one way or another but I would rather value my players on what they have done in the NHL not what people tell me they might do. Especially since every one of them was drafted outside of the top 10 and hasn't been able to come into the league as a teenager, that's not the sign of an elite prospect.