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Big trade with Pittsburgh

Created by: Oilfan1717
Team: 2018-19 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: May 20, 2018
Published: May 20, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,750,000
2$1,750,000
3$2,833,333
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,250,000
3$3,666,666
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. 2018 2nd round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
  2. 2019 4th round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Spurgeon, Jared
MIN
  1. Hebig, Cameron
  2. Jones, Caleb
  3. 2018 1st round pick (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. 2018 4th round pick (CGY)
  2. 2019 4th round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Russell, Kris
4.
EDM
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
  2. 2018 2nd round pick (MTL)
  3. 2018 2nd round pick (WSH)
MTL
  1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
5.
EDM
  1. Reinhart, Griffin
  2. Tuch, Alex
VGK
  1. Larkin, Colin
  2. Vesel, Tyler
  3. 2018 2nd round pick (NYI)
  4. 2018 2nd round pick (WSH)
6.
EDM
  1. Glendening, Luke
DET
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. 2018 4th round pick (CGY)
  3. 2019 3rd round pick (EDM)
7.
EDM
  1. 2018 3rd round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Åberg, Pontus
Buyouts
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2018
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2019
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Logo of the NYI
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$80,000,000$79,033,664$0$2,925,000$966,336

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Maroon, Patrick
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 8
Galchenyuk, Alex
$4,900,000$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
Puljujärvi, Jesse
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW
UFA - 1
Tuch, Alex
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Strome, Ryan
$2,833,333$2,833,333
RW, C
UFA - 2
Grabner, Michael
$3,666,666$3,666,666
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Pääjärvi, Magnus
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Khaira, Jujhar
$675,000$675,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Glendening, Luke
$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 3
Malone, Brad
$650,000$650,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Rattie, Ty
$800,000$800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 5
Spurgeon, Jared
$5,187,500$5,187,500
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Talbot, Cam
$4,166,666$4,166,666
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Nurse, Darnell
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
Larsson, Adam
$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 3
Sekera, Andrej
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 3
Benning, Matthew
$1,750,000$1,750,000
RD
UFA - 2
Pavelec, Ondrej
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA
Reinhart, Griffin
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1

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May 20, 2018 at 5:48 a.m.
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Subbanator7667
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Another Oilers fan over valueing RNH
May 20, 2018 at 6:49 a.m.
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Can you give me one reason why RNH is worth so much more than Chuky?!?
May 20, 2018 at 7:23 a.m.
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Quoting: AndrewIV
Can you give me one reason why RNH is worth so much more than Chuky?!?


Chucky-RNH straight up, maybe. This doesn't get a sniff.
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May 20, 2018 at 10:45 a.m.
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Edmonton would need to add the 2 2nds,
May 20, 2018 at 1:06 p.m.
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Quoting: GMTD
Edmonton would need to add the 2 2nds,


Seriously?
May 20, 2018 at 1:09 p.m.
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You're gonna need more than that to pry Spurg away.
May 20, 2018 at 1:11 p.m.
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Quoting: tommygunns
Seriously?


No I was hyperbolic to emphasize how skewed the trade was in favor of Edmonton.
May 20, 2018 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Icegirl
You're gonna need more than that to pry Spurg away.


Like what?
May 20, 2018 at 2:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Oilfan1717
Like what?


A (significantly) better prospect than Cam Hebig
May 20, 2018 at 3:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Icegirl
A (significantly) better prospect than Cam Hebig


10ao+ Caleb Jones isn't a bad return (value-wise) for Spurgeon: injury prone (misses an average of 12 games a year), undersized, $5m contract (fair, but not a bargain) in his prime, 2 years of team control, never topped 40p in a season, concern he's a by-product of Suter an elite defender. The trade doesn't make much sense for MN unless they are going into a miss the Playoffs rebuild/retool season.

Spurgeon isn't worth what most Wild fans want for him. He's not even in the top-5 of what could be available d-men: EK, OEL, Trouba, Dumba, Hanifin, Hamilton, Carlson (UFA), Green (UFA), Risto.
May 20, 2018 at 4:03 p.m.
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Edited May 21, 2018 at 11:34 a.m.
Most of these trade would not happen. Edmonton does not trade a goalie they just signed, No way Calgary takes Russel, no way Edmonton trades for Reinhart again and Edmonton has no need of Galchenyuk. RNH is a way better defence forward who gets around the same number of points as Galchenyuk. His overall pts per game is higher. The other trades are possible.
May 20, 2018 at 4:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Banman73
Most of these trade would not happen. Edmonton does not trade a goalie they just signed, No way Calgary takes Russel, no way Edmonton trades for Reinhart again and Edmonton has no need of Galchenyuk. RNH is a way better defence forward who get around the same number of points as Galchenyuk. His overall pts per game is higher. The other trades are possible.


RNH averages roughly 19 minutes a game. Galchenyuk averages 15:30 minutes. If you actually look at their career averages, and uses a more accurate metric in pts/60min rather than Pts/game. Galchenyuk is higher. But I will agree that RNH is the better defender. Chucky is the bigger offensive threat, RNH is a more well rounded player.

MTLs 2nd rd pick this year is basically a 1st (35th overall). Remove that one and I’d say value is fair. I still wouldn’t do it because RNH would be the default #1 C for the Habs, when he was that for EDM he was terrible. If MTL somehow manage to get a #1 C, I’d consider it. RNH as a #2 C looks good in my books.
May 20, 2018 at 4:56 p.m.
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Quoting: wabit
10ao+ Caleb Jones isn't a bad return (value-wise) for Spurgeon: injury prone (misses an average of 12 games a year), undersized, $5m contract (fair, but not a bargain) in his prime, 2 years of team control, never topped 40p in a season, concern he's a by-product of Suter an elite defender. The trade doesn't make much sense for MN unless they are going into a miss the Playoffs rebuild/retool season.

Spurgeon isn't worth what most Wild fans want for him. He's not even in the top-5 of what could be available d-men: EK, OEL, Trouba, Dumba, Hanifin, Hamilton, Carlson (UFA), Green (UFA), Risto.


As a Wild fan, he's definitely better than Dumba (though Dumba isn't too far behind).
May 20, 2018 at 5:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Icegirl
As a Wild fan, he's definitely better than Dumba (though Dumba isn't too far behind).


It's not just about being better. Dumba is still young and has a ton of team control left as RFA this year and still looks like he has room to grow. Spurgeon is who he is as a player at this point (a fine player in his own right), but his contract (money/term), injury history, and size make his value lower than say Dumba.

A team with a 2 year window would want Spurgeon over Dumba, but everyone else will want Dumba as a core piece for long term.
 
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