Carey Price is not going anywhere but Tavares Coming to us

Still not a playoff team will go down as worst trade in history.

Price is worth around a week old Big Mac and a packet of sweet and sour sauce. Wrong side of 30, 8 year deal, full NMC. You gotta give to get rid of him.

Montreal would be begging to get out of that contract. You don't need to throw all those picks at them. If the islanders take the full contract a third rounder might do the trick.

You do know that in the NHLPA players poll, Price gets 41% of the votes as the goalie the most difficult to score on. The next closest is Jonathan Quick at 12%. https://www.nhlpa.com/player-poll/2017-18

See the NHLPA poll -- https://www.nhlpa.com/player-poll/2017-18

That's rough man....but I'm sure someone would take on Prices contract if you threw in some picks....



This is an accurate description of the trade.



If they don't trade him by year end this will be 100% true.



Might end up as the worst contract in history.



He had a sub 0.900 save percentage this year bro & he won't be any better at 39....No one gives a s*** what your poll says. Absolutely brutal contract.

Hey, I'm betting you're not a player and I'm not a player. Just saying they might know a thing or two more than us.

I'm betting they took the survey before this season....

- I think the players 'who know a thing or two' have noticed that his 0.899 SV% was in the bottom 5% of the league this year.

Be honest with me here....

If Price was still going to be a UFA this summer....would any team in the league offer him $10,500,000 x 8 years....at 31 years old?

- If that was the required contract - I honestly don't think any team would sign him (I think $8,500,000 would be the max).
- This also means that they wouldn't trade for his contract right now - even if the asking price was almost nothing....

The full NTC + NMC doesn't help Montreal's situation either....

- Those are scary terms for an overpaid 30+ goalie.
- Which means they'll be less suitors & Price can reject all of them (for example: he'll say no to the NYI).

The survey is done in November/December, which was right when Price was flailing most.

For lots of reasons that have nothing to do with his past season, I would have traded Price long ago. The Habs to a few things very well and one of them is breed goalies. The decade of Price diminished that a bit, but it's still very much a strength. A few years ago, Price had "Crosby-like" star status. The Habs had a better chance of building another goalie than they did finding a big centreman. They also became overly dependent on a goalie to bail them out. For those reasons, I would never have let it get to this stage.

That said, I am not one who believes Price is close to washed up. Indeed, Brodeur and Roy both played some of their best hockey well into their 30s. Look at Fleury this season. Something was clearly wrong with Price at the start of last season. Perhaps it was the new D; perhaps the new equipment; perhaps it was chronic fatigue; or perhaps the rumour mill was true and he was having marriage problems.... Whatever the reason, there's no reason to believe he won't be able to return to form this year. I will agree, however, that if he doesn't return to form, it will be a long few years before he can be bought out.

Yes, great players think he is hard to score on. Now, lets look at the facts. He is getting paid 10 millions dollars a year for the next 8 years for ages 31-39 seasons. If the contract was anymore reasonable there could be a deal. but contract negates any value he has.

Lundqvist is 36 and still going strong. Rinne is 35. Dubnyk is 32 and just posted his two best seasons having been written off at 28. If the cap keeps growing by $3M per year, Price's contract — whether $8M or $10.5M — is manageable. It's only not manageable if he can't play by there's no injury to which that is attributed.

None of those guys have cups. Look at the last few winners. Crawford, MAF, Murray and Quick. Highest is not even 6 million. I am not doubting his ability to play. Just long term goalie contracts aren't a good investment, especially at that cap hit.

You know what - You're response is reasonable as f*** considering how much of a troll I've been on this page - Gotta respect that.

He's obviously going to bounce back from this season - but the "how long will it last?" question will never go away (mostly because it's Montreal).

In my opinion - there's only 1 major problem that this contract contributes to (along with Weber's contract & a couple others).

The problem is: Montreal will end up in really bad shape if they sign another superstar to a UFA contract.

We can use Tavares as an example (let's say it takes $12,500,000 x 7 years to land him in Montreal). Now Montreal is dealing with:

- $12,500,000 = Tavares (until he's 35)
- $10,500,000 = Price (until he's 39)
- $ 8,000,000 = Weber (until he's 40)
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- $31,000,000 = TOTAL (for 3 players)

If the cap's $80,000,000 next year - you'll have $49,000,000 left for the other 20 roster spots, or $2,450,000 / player (not enough for a contender - unless a bunch of them are superstar ELC's).

It gets worse when you add in a few more:

- $12,500,000 = Tavares (until he's 35)
- $10,500,000 = Price (until he's 39)
- $ 8,000,000 = Weber (until he's 40)
- $ 5,500,000 = Drouin
- $ 5,500,000 = Petry
- $ 4,900,000 = Galchenyuk (likely to go up soon).
- $ 4,600,000 = Alzner
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- $51,500,000 = TOTAL (for 7 players)

If the cap's still $80,000,000 next year - you'll have $28,500,000 left for the other 16 roster spots, or $1,780,000 / player (again - how are you going to build a good team around them?)

Obviously you're going to gain some cap space as the cap goes up (but Price, Tavares & Weber could easily negate all of the cap growth with declining play).

For example - in 5 years Price might have regressed to an average goalie, Weber to an average shut down defender & Tavares to an average 2nd line center.

EX: You gained $10,000,000 in new cap space after 5 years - but Price is playing down to a $5,000,000 cap, Tavares to $5,000,000 & Weber to $4,000,000 (and you need to fill their old roles).

So their regression has lost you $17,000,000 in cap space & you're effectively working with $7,000,000 less cap space than today (even though it's gone up $10,000,000).

That's my fear.

Agree on every point, but have a few caveats:

The biggest: Where in here did I say the Habs would be signing Tavares?!!! This is an NYI team model.

Now, since you want to talk about the Habs, the cap is not nearly as dire as it seems.
1) Expansion: With the expansion to Seattle on the horizon, Habs will be able to dangle some pricey talent;
2) Weber: Once Weber begins to become "average," his salary will actually be just $3M but his cap value to a cap floor team will still be $8M.
3) Price's contract is frontloaded, meaning he will too should be easy to trade (assuming he accepts) or buy out once the cost-benefit of keeping him falls too far. Because of the frontloading, the residual cap hit will be relatively painless.

True - It was another Habs fan who said Tavares was coming (in the very first comment).

Other points are true as well.