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Kessel for Hamilton?

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Team: 2018-19 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: May 27, 2018
Published: May 27, 2018
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  1. Kessel, Phil
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Monahan, Sean
$6,375,000$6,375,000
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Bennett, Sam
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Jankowski, Mark
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Kessel, Phil
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Ryan, Derek
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Lazar, Curtis
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Shore, Nick
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Smith, Mike
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Hamonic, Travis
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UFA - 2
Kulak, Brett
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May 27, 2018 at 5:35 p.m.
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MajesticWalrus
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Waaaayyyy better than most of the deals on here but i dont want to see kessel go
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May 27, 2018 at 5:36 p.m.
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No
May 27, 2018 at 5:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Banana_Hamonic
No


why not?
May 27, 2018 at 5:45 p.m.
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This works, then sign Carlson with the remaining 7M
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May 27, 2018 at 5:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Jtpunk77
This works, then sign Carlson with the remaining 7M


thought about that but i dont think he would come to calgary, thats why i signed Hickey
May 27, 2018 at 5:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Bennett93
thought about that but i dont think he would come to calgary, thats why i signed Hickey


I think 7M would bring him there
May 27, 2018 at 6:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Jtpunk77
I think 7M would bring him there


also need cap space for Tkachuk next year
May 27, 2018 at 6:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Jtpunk77
This works, then sign Carlson with the remaining 7M


pretty sure it was alluded that Carlson does not want to sign in Canada if he goes to market. I believe Friedman mentioned that on one of his podcasts
May 27, 2018 at 6:02 p.m.
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Finally a fair Kessel deal. Still don’t wanna move him though
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May 27, 2018 at 6:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Bennett93
also need cap space for Tkachuk next year


Smith, Lazar, ferland and bennett are up.. thats like 8.7M to disperse between Foo and Tkchuck.. without the cap going up another 2M
May 27, 2018 at 6:04 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
pretty sure it was alluded that Carlson does not want to sign in Canada if he goes to market. I believe Friedman mentioned that on one of his podcasts


Didn't hear about that, my bad
May 27, 2018 at 6:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Jtpunk77
Didn't hear about that, my bad


It was mentioned in a roundabout way, talking Carlson as a Leafs target and a subtle comment that early word is that he isnt intersected in signing with Canadian Markets.
But who knows by July 1st if he gets there what he feels like

Ferraro had an interested comment too last month too on twitter
"It won’t be 5 years ...7x $7mm...can’t believe for a second he would sign in Canada"
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May 27, 2018 at 6:16 p.m.
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Hamilton > Kessel.
Top 2 D man > Scoring winger.
May 27, 2018 at 6:21 p.m.
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Quoting: DarkMatta
Hamilton > Kessel.
Top 2 D man > Scoring winger.


Maybe I could have added a little to Kessel but I am dealing for a position of strength... Girodano, Brodie, Hamonic, Andersson, Fox, Kylington and bringing in something that we need. Kessel could go on the top line but the lines would be unbalanced, you would have one scoring line and then a line of young unproven players.
May 27, 2018 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Jtpunk77
Smith, Lazar, ferland and bennett are up.. thats like 8.7M to disperse between Foo and Tkchuck.. without the cap going up another 2M

Smith or a FA goalie is going to be resigned around the same cap, Bennet and Ferland aswell if not more
May 27, 2018 at 6:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Bennett93
Smith or a FA goalie is going to be resigned around the same cap, Bennet and Ferland aswell if not more


Doubt bennett will stay
May 27, 2018 at 6:26 p.m.
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What?! No haha Hamilton is a legit #1 Dman on a great contract that's just 24 years old. Kessel is a top 15 winger that's 30. If you are going to trade Hamilton you better get a much young, cheaper, better winger.
May 27, 2018 at 6:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Jtpunk77
Doubt bennett will stay


He’s an rfa so it’s not up to him, either way if we trade him or keep him cap hit we be relatively close
May 27, 2018 at 6:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Jtpunk77
I think 7M would bring him there


Caps match $7M easily. Only way Caps don't sign him is if he goes $8M+. Carlson isn't going West, he's an East Coast kid. NJD (hometown) or NYI for him if Caps don't sign him which is undoubtfull
May 27, 2018 at 6:31 p.m.
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What?! No haha Hamilton is a legit #1 Dman on a great contract that's just 24 years old. Kessel is a top 15 winger that's 30. If you are going to trade Hamilton you better get a much young, cheaper, better winger.


Your right, should have added something to Kessel, only other deal I see possible is Nylander from Toronto but with Carlson on the market they may not need Hamilton, if you look at one of my other comments I pointed out that I am dealing from a position of strength and filling a hole, Pittsburgh needs another Dman that can take some of the weight off Letang and Kessels name has been thrown around.
May 27, 2018 at 6:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Bennett93
Your right, should have added something to Kessel, only other deal I see possible is Nylander from Toronto but with Carlson on the market they may not need Hamilton, if you look at one of my other comments I pointed out that I am dealing from a position of strength and filling a hole, Pittsburgh needs another Dman that can take some of the weight off Letang and Kessels name has been thrown around.


I hear yeah but Hamilton is not only a #1 dman but he's a #1 right handed dman. Those are a rare commodity. Plus he's only 24. You should keep him unless you're getting a gem back.
May 27, 2018 at 7:02 p.m.
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What?! No haha Hamilton is a legit #1 Dman on a great contract that's just 24 years old. Kessel is a top 15 winger that's 30. If you are going to trade Hamilton you better get a much young, cheaper, better winger.


Not many wingers in the NHL better than Kessel
May 27, 2018 at 7:14 p.m.
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Quoting: DarkMatta
Hamilton > Kessel.
Top 2 D man > Scoring winger.


Completely illogical ?.
May 27, 2018 at 7:16 p.m.
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Probably not what teams are looking for but solid value
 
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