Quoting: Propeller09
I have to reiterate that Krug is not a better defenseman than Hanafin or you wouldn't need to add a 50pt rookie in heinen and another 1st round pick.
The reason Carolina would entertain moving him is cost - which will be substantially higher than 2.5m per year. That coupled with the fact that they are absolutely loaded on the back end, but lack a true #1 center.
There is zero chance they trade him for Krug. They don't need Krug at all. He doesn't make them better at all.
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I already explained in this thread my rationale for why I included the pieces for a Hanifin deal, but let me reiterate them for you - Krug is older than Hanifin. Krug will be a UFA when his contract expires. Krug only has 2 years left on his deal. When it expires, anyone with a pulse could predict he will leave Carolina if he is traded there (because it's not a competitive team, it's franchise is steeped in mismanagement, and it has an owner who sounds like a firebrand and a moron to boot). Given all that, a swap of the two wouldn't be fair to Carolina, given the Bruins would control Hanifin for several more years. So the other pieces in the trade make up for when Krug leaves. I never ever said anything about including a 1st rounder, nor would I if I was already trading Krug and Heinen. Maybe I would do Krug and a 1st rounder for Hanafin. MAYBE.
But if Carolina were to trade Hanifin because of cost (which I agree is a compelling reason), then getting Krug in return would make all the difference in softening that blow. Krug would definitely make them better for the 2 years he would be there.
Quoting: Propeller09
His +/- doesn't really mean anything at all either. There was an 84 total goal differential between the two teams last year, a 43 in 2017 & 38 in 2016 -
You fail to point out the Krug was a team LOW in +/- for dmen (even) this year despite scoring 59pts and the next LOWEST bruins Dman was a +10 (over 40GP)
2017? Krug was the only Bruins Dman who was a negative player @ -10. Colin Miller was the next lowest as an even player.
I literally said in my last post that I don't usually put much stock in those stats (especially +/-), unless the possession metrics are as close as they are between Hanifin and Krug. But I also provided a whole other bunch of stats you completely ignored, and seized on the least meaningful stat to expound on, so that's cool. I did indeed fail to mention 2016 or 2017. Would you like to look closer at those numbers? Because Krug obliterates Hanifin in your precious CF% and FF% stats. Especially in 2017, when he actually had a less sheltered ZS% than Hanifin.
Quoting: Propeller09
Carolina's Centers have topped out at a high of 48pts since Hanafin has been on the team & 45pts last year (Krejci had 44 in 64 gp& 64 pts the year before). Ryan Spooner had 49pts in Hanafin's rookie year.
What do you think Krug's +/- would look like with Spooner as the Bruins most productive center.
Carolina has some really nice pieces in place and a few are on great contracts. If they can land a legit #1 center or Lindholm can become that guy the Canes could turn it around real quick.
Now see that is actually a compelling reason to argue why in reality Hanifin might be better than Krug. Obviously hockey players don't play in a vacuum, and Krug plays on a much better team than Hanafin does. I don't know if WOWY stats would be able to reveal something insightful about that argument, but usually most people accept that it's almost impossible to accurately measure how a player might do on a different team with different players and compare the two players as they are. Maybe you could use some type of adjusted stats? I obviously don't know how Krug would do with Spooner as his top center, but Carolina's top center is Jordan Staal, who is a much better player than Spooner is, so that's not really an equal comparison when taking into account the whole player.
While Carolina has a great D-corps (but I still wouldn't trade Boston's for theirs, if you include their prospects of Zboril, Lauzon, Vaakanainen and Sherman), I don't see them breaking through the division they are in even if they added a #1. Maybe they sniff the last wildcard spot. And since no legitimate #1 centers are available to them at this point, it's a moot discussion.