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Bye Bye Reinhart, Risto and ROR... CAR CGY ARI NYI MIN

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Team: 2018-19 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 14, 2018
Published: Jun. 14, 2018
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Well as we get closer to the drafting of Rasmus Dahlin I have been thinking hard and long about why the culture is 'off' with the Sabres. I am hoping that it is not Eichel. I think GMBots will look to really shake up this team after the draft and he will trade away a few players which will surprise the fan base.

The baseline of this team is trading Reinhart, Risto & ROR in exchange for critical pieces that will allow GMBots to develop his type of team.

As is always the case I value any and all feedback whether it is positive or negative.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,250,000
4$3,500,000
3$800,000
3$950,000
3$950,000
3$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dahlin, Rasmus
3$925,000
3$2,750,000
Trades
1.
BUF
    RFA rights Brock Nelson
    NYI
      RFA rights Robin Lehner
      RFA rights Nicholas Baptiste
      RFA rights Seth Griffith
      2.
      BUF
      1. 2018 1st round pick (MIN)
      2. 2018 5th round pick (MIN)
      Additional Details:
      This trade was copied from Shibbal18
      MIN
      1. 2018 2nd round pick (BUF)
      2. 2018 4th round pick (BUF)
      Additional Details:
      RFA rights Hudson Fasching
      3.
      CGY
      1. Larsson, Johan
      2. 2019 1st round pick (SJS)
      Additional Details:
      RFA rights Sam Reinhart
      4.
      CAR
      1. Girgensons, Zemgus
      2. O'Reilly, Ryan
      3. Ristolainen, Rasmus
      4. 2019 4th round pick (BUF)
      Additional Details:
      Draft pick becomes a 2nd Round pick in 2020 if Skinner signs and extension
      5.
      BUF
        RFA rights Max Domi
        ARI
        1. Beaulieu, Nathan ($1,200,000 retained)
        2. Rask, Victor
        3. 2019 3rd round pick (BUF)
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        $1,950,000$1,950,000
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        UFA - 1
        $10,000,000$10,000,000
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        UFA - 8
        $5,725,000$5,725,000
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        UFA - 1
        $3,500,000$3,500,000
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        UFA - 1
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        M-NTC
        UFA - 5
        $3,250,000$3,250,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 2
        $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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        RFA - 2
        $5,600,000$5,600,000
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        M-NTC, NMC
        UFA - 1
        $800,000$800,000
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        UFA - 2
        $800,000$800,000
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        UFA - 1
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        LW, C
        UFA - 1
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        $5,750,000$5,750,000
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        UFA - 3
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        Jun. 14, 2018 at 4:50 p.m.
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        Shibbal18 is a sabre fan.
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 4:53 p.m.
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        You're giving too much to get Faulk and Skinner. Both are good hockey players but ROR is better than Skinner and I would say Risto is better than Faulk.
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        Jun. 14, 2018 at 4:56 p.m.
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        Quoting: LoganOllivier
        You're giving too much to get Faulk and Skinner. Both are good hockey players but ROR is better than Skinner and I would say Risto is better than Faulk.


        I had Hanifin in originally but did not want to be accused of stacking the deck since I am a loyal die hard Sabres fan...... I also wanted to see what the team would look like with Faulk over Hanifin..... could also add a player like Kuokkanen to even the trade out.

        I appreciate your feedback..... what do you think of the team overall..... even with getting jobbed in the Carolina deal.
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:07 p.m.
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        Quoting: wagsnags
        I had Hanifin in originally but did not want to be accused of stacking the deck since I am a loyal die hard Sabres fan...... I also wanted to see what the team would look like with Faulk over Hanifin..... could also add a player like Kuokkanen to even the trade out.

        I appreciate your feedback..... what do you think of the team overall..... even with getting jobbed in the Carolina deal.


        I think with all your moves, (The Domi trade may require some tweaks, Arizona won't just give him away) the Sabres would be better but I think they still need some more depth. I don't think their big names are the problem. Its the lack of support players that are fast and talented. Looking at the wings and the bottom 6, the Sabres aren't very strong. That's where they trail other young up and coming teams. Tampa's top 2 lines were better than Buffalo's by a fair margin but if you look at their 3rd and 4th lines, Tampa's are light years ahead of Buffalo. They need some more young fast guys who can start competing for those spots and be hard working bottom 6 guys who have talent as well.
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:22 p.m.
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        First off, CGY doesn't even listen on that deal. Hamilton's a #1D, their best Dman, on a sub-6 million dollar deal, who's closest comparable in scoring is Brent Burns. You could maybe get Brodie for that return, but no way in hell are you getting Hamilton without a comparable talent going the other way that leaves enough cap space to acquire a 1RD with. IMO, the Sabres simply don't have that.
        2nd, once you're outside the top 10, there isn't really a difference between a 1st and a 2nd, especially between a late 1st and a high 2nd. So the Sabres don't really get anything on the MIN trade, unless you have someone specific in mind for that MIN pick.
        3rd, CJ Smith was under a point a game with Rochester. Maybe he can make the NHL, but he isn't ready to be a 2LW. You seem to want to be good immediately, why not try to upgrade there?
        4th, Domi should probably be 1LW on this roster (this does not remove the hole at 2LW, Bennet's really iffy there as well). He's a solid playmaker with some ability to score (9 goals on 6% shooting will usually turn into about 15 when sh% regresses). Eichel and Skinner IMO want a passing LW, since both of them are goal scorers.
        5th, I'm really hesitant to anoint Ullmark starter. That said, if you want to, you probably could get Nelson + a little for Lehner.
        6th, you need to upgrade at 1LD. It probably wouldn't be hard to turn Faulk into Klefbom + something (such as dumping Scandella's deal) with EDM. The hole at 2RD can be patched pretty easily by Franson/Pateryn.
        7th, Hamilton>Faulk. Better in almost every way.
        Overall, this would be a great offseason for the Sabres, but Treliving's not taking that deal and Scandella simply isn't acceptable as 1LD. The wings also haven't really been fixed and there are some huge maybes in the Forward corps.
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        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:25 p.m.
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        Quoting: wagsnags
        I had Hanifin in originally but did not want to be accused of stacking the deck since I am a loyal die hard Sabres fan...... I also wanted to see what the team would look like with Faulk over Hanifin..... could also add a player like Kuokkanen to even the trade out.

        I appreciate your feedback..... what do you think of the team overall..... even with getting jobbed in the Carolina deal.


        As a canes fan I would do Skinner and Rask for ROR
        I would do Hanifin for Risto (assuming I was trading Faulk somewhere else because i would have 4 RD otherwise)

        So you could really take out Girgensons and i would still do the deal

        on a side note, i'm not opposed to Hanifin for Risto, i just don;t see the point of swapping 2 quality d men that aren't causing a problem on their team, but W/E
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        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:29 p.m.
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        Quoting: The_Ultimate_Pielord
        First off, CGY doesn't even listen on that deal. Hamilton's a #1D, their best Dman, on a sub-6 million dollar deal, who's closest comparable in scoring is Brent Burns. You could maybe get Brodie for that return, but no way in hell are you getting Hamilton without a comparable talent going the other way that leaves enough cap space to acquire a 1RD with. IMO, the Sabres simply don't have that.
        2nd, once you're outside the top 10, there isn't really a difference between a 1st and a 2nd, especially between a late 1st and a high 2nd. So the Sabres don't really get anything on the MIN trade, unless you have someone specific in mind for that MIN pick.
        3rd, CJ Smith was under a point a game with Rochester. Maybe he can make the NHL, but he isn't ready to be a 2LW. You seem to want to be good immediately, why not try to upgrade there?
        4th, Domi should probably be 1LW on this roster (this does not remove the hole at 2LW, Bennet's really iffy there as well). He's a solid playmaker with some ability to score (9 goals on 6% shooting will usually turn into about 15 when sh% regresses). Eichel and Skinner IMO want a passing LW, since both of them are goal scorers.
        5th, I'm really hesitant to anoint Ullmark starter. That said, if you want to, you probably could get Nelson + a little for Lehner.
        6th, you need to upgrade at 1LD. It probably wouldn't be hard to turn Faulk into Klefbom + something (such as dumping Scandella's deal) with EDM. The hole at 2RD can be patched pretty easily by Franson/Pateryn.
        7th, Hamilton>Faulk. Better in almost every way.
        Overall, this would be a great offseason for the Sabres, but Treliving's not taking that deal and Scandella simply isn't acceptable as 1LD. The wings also haven't really been fixed and there are some huge maybes in the Forward corps.


        Why don't we get anything in the MIN deal? If we want to target a certain player and he does not reach 99 percent to 32 choices, it is beneficial for us.
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:36 p.m.
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        Quoting: TheRiddler
        Why don't we get anything in the MIN deal? If we want to target a certain player and he does not reach 99 percent to 32 choices, it is beneficial for us.



        That's the big if right there. In an amateur draft, there's no reason to trade up unless you're trading up for a specific player. There are guys this might make sense for (such as the Guelph Storm's Ryan Merkley), but if you don't have a guy picked out that you're pretty sure had his stock drop for reasons other than his play (like Merkley), trading up in that range just wastes assets. The best draft strategy is to either bottom out and get high top 10) first rounders, or to draft by volume. Or, better yet, both.
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:39 p.m.
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        Quoting: The_Ultimate_Pielord
        That's the big if right there. In an amateur draft, there's no reason to trade up unless you're trading up for a specific player. There are guys this might make sense for (such as the Guelph Storm's Ryan Merkley), but if you don't have a guy picked out that you're pretty sure had his stock drop for reasons other than his play (like Merkley), trading up in that range just wastes assets. The best draft strategy is to either bottom out and get high top 10) first rounders, or to draft by volume. Or, better yet, both.


        Not necessarily, I like for example 2-3 players who will probably go about in the range of 18-25, and up to 32 they will not reach, and if I really want to get some of these players, then why not trade for them, especially look at the deal, Buffalo has little to lose in this transaction.
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        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:47 p.m.
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        Quoting: The_Ultimate_Pielord
        First off, CGY doesn't even listen on that deal. Hamilton's a #1D, their best Dman, on a sub-6 million dollar deal, who's closest comparable in scoring is Brent Burns. You could maybe get Brodie for that return, but no way in hell are you getting Hamilton without a comparable talent going the other way that leaves enough cap space to acquire a 1RD with. IMO, the Sabres simply don't have that.
        2nd, once you're outside the top 10, there isn't really a difference between a 1st and a 2nd, especially between a late 1st and a high 2nd. So the Sabres don't really get anything on the MIN trade, unless you have someone specific in mind for that MIN pick.
        3rd, CJ Smith was under a point a game with Rochester. Maybe he can make the NHL, but he isn't ready to be a 2LW. You seem to want to be good immediately, why not try to upgrade there?
        4th, Domi should probably be 1LW on this roster (this does not remove the hole at 2LW, Bennet's really iffy there as well). He's a solid playmaker with some ability to score (9 goals on 6% shooting will usually turn into about 15 when sh% regresses). Eichel and Skinner IMO want a passing LW, since both of them are goal scorers.
        5th, I'm really hesitant to anoint Ullmark starter. That said, if you want to, you probably could get Nelson + a little for Lehner.
        6th, you need to upgrade at 1LD. It probably wouldn't be hard to turn Faulk into Klefbom + something (such as dumping Scandella's deal) with EDM. The hole at 2RD can be patched pretty easily by Franson/Pateryn.
        7th, Hamilton>Faulk. Better in almost every way.
        Overall, this would be a great offseason for the Sabres, but Treliving's not taking that deal and Scandella simply isn't acceptable as 1LD. The wings also haven't really been fixed and there are some huge maybes in the Forward corps.


        Quoting: The_Ultimate_Pielord
        That's the big if right there. In an amateur draft, there's no reason to trade up unless you're trading up for a specific player. There are guys this might make sense for (such as the Guelph Storm's Ryan Merkley), but if you don't have a guy picked out that you're pretty sure had his stock drop for reasons other than his play (like Merkley), trading up in that range just wastes assets. The best draft strategy is to either bottom out and get high top 10) first rounders, or to draft by volume. Or, better yet, both.

        Your point on the Minnesota trade is why I think Minnesota does it, your 2nd point is why I did it, I’m trading up for a reason. 20-45 is really close between all the prospects, so I doubt Minnesota says no to a 2 for 1
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        Quoting: TheRiddler
        Not necessarily, I like for example 2-3 players who will probably go about in the range of 18-25, and up to 32 they will not reach, and if I really want to get some of these players, then why not trade for them, especially look at the deal, Buffalo has little to lose in this transaction.


        If you can name those guys, and support the claim that they should be top 10 picks in an average draft, go for it. It's just a matter of making sure you know SPECIFICALLY who you're trading up for, and that you have a reason to believe they're not the usual longshot fare of the late 1st round, and that they've fallen for a reason other than what they provide on the ice. If you're trading up because you think the usual guy in the late first round is a likelier NHLer than the usual guy in the 2nd round, you're wrong and should be trading in the opposite direction.
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:48 p.m.
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        Quoting: Shibbal18
        Your point on the Minnesota trade is why I think Minnesota does it, your 2nd point is why I did it, I’m trading up for a reason. 20-45 is really close between all the prospects, so I doubt Minnesota says no to a 2 for 1


        Who are you trading up for, and why should teams be picking them in the top 10 in an average draft but aren't?
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:50 p.m.
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        Reinhart is not bringing back Hamilton. ROR stalraight up for Hamilton is a hard sell, Reinhart at best brings back Bennett++
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:52 p.m.
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        Quoting: The_Ultimate_Pielord
        If you can name those guys, and support the claim that they should be top 10 picks in an average draft, go for it. It's just a matter of making sure you know SPECIFICALLY who you're trading up for, and that you have a reason to believe they're not the usual longshot fare of the late 1st round, and that they've fallen for a reason other than what they provide on the ice. If you're trading up because you think the usual guy in the late first round is a likelier NHLer than the usual guy in the 2nd round, you're wrong and should be trading in the opposite direction.

        No of course, not because the guy at number 24 is necessarily the NHL, and the guy at number 32 is not the NHL, this deal is under a certain player or players that Buffalo really wants to get, but they most likely will not get to 32 choice.
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:53 p.m.
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        Quoting: The_Ultimate_Pielord
        First off, CGY doesn't even listen on that deal. Hamilton's a #1D, their best Dman, on a sub-6 million dollar deal, who's closest comparable in scoring is Brent Burns. You could maybe get Brodie for that return, but no way in hell are you getting Hamilton without a comparable talent going the other way that leaves enough cap space to acquire a 1RD with. IMO, the Sabres simply don't have that.
        2nd, once you're outside the top 10, there isn't really a difference between a 1st and a 2nd, especially between a late 1st and a high 2nd. So the Sabres don't really get anything on the MIN trade, unless you have someone specific in mind for that MIN pick.
        3rd, CJ Smith was under a point a game with Rochester. Maybe he can make the NHL, but he isn't ready to be a 2LW. You seem to want to be good immediately, why not try to upgrade there?
        4th, Domi should probably be 1LW on this roster (this does not remove the hole at 2LW, Bennet's really iffy there as well). He's a solid playmaker with some ability to score (9 goals on 6% shooting will usually turn into about 15 when sh% regresses). Eichel and Skinner IMO want a passing LW, since both of them are goal scorers.
        5th, I'm really hesitant to anoint Ullmark starter. That said, if you want to, you probably could get Nelson + a little for Lehner.
        6th, you need to upgrade at 1LD. It probably wouldn't be hard to turn Faulk into Klefbom + something (such as dumping Scandella's deal) with EDM. The hole at 2RD can be patched pretty easily by Franson/Pateryn.
        7th, Hamilton>Faulk. Better in almost every way.
        Overall, this would be a great offseason for the Sabres, but Treliving's not taking that deal and Scandella simply isn't acceptable as 1LD. The wings also haven't really been fixed and there are some huge maybes in the Forward corps.


        Great comments, I love the thought you put into developing this.
        1st, I think you are correct that Calgary will not trade Hamilton, but is the talent exchange OK?
        2nd, you are correct, teams only move up if they think a player they are targeting will not be available. I think moving up in this draft is a good thing to do.
        3rd, I agree CJ may not be ready, but maybe Olofsson, or Nylander, or Asplund or whoever is ready.
        4th I agree, Domi would be a #1 LW
        5th, I liked what I saw in Ullmark. Just remember Matt Murray had less NHL experience before he won his 1st Stanley cup, so let’s hope for the best.
        6th, You are correct Scandella is not a #1 defenseman. I think we start with Scandella and by the end of the season, it will be Dahlin.
        7th of course you are correct

        Quoting: Shifttee
        As a canes fan I would do Skinner and Rask for ROR
        I would do Hanifin for Risto (assuming I was trading Faulk somewhere else because i would have 4 RD otherwise)


        So you could really take out Girgensons and i would still do the deal

        on a side note, i'm not opposed to Hanifin for Risto, i just don;t see the point of swapping 2 quality d men that aren't causing a problem on their team, but W/E


        I agree 100%, thank you for your comment.

        Quoting: LoganOllivier
        You're giving too much to get Faulk and Skinner. Both are good hockey players but ROR is better than Skinner and I would say Risto is better than Faulk.


        Skinner and Rask > O'Reilly, Faulk < Ristolainen so it balances out. Rask is a #3 center who wins more than 55% of his face offs.
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:54 p.m.
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        Quoting: The_Ultimate_Pielord
        Who are you trading up for, and why should teams be picking them in the top 10 in an average draft but aren't?

        Bokk, Denisenko, even Kaut, and less likely if no one takes a shot on Veleno early I’m 100% doing it. I think Veleno will be gone but those other 3 may still be sitting there and I don’t see any of them making it to 32
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:56 p.m.
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        Quoting: TheRiddler
        No of course, not because the guy at number 24 is necessarily the NHL, and the guy at number 32 is not the NHL, this deal is under a certain player or players that Buffalo really wants to get, but they most likely will not get to 32 choice.


        Again, WHO ARE THESE PLAYERS? If you can't give me names, then you're trading up because you think a late 1st is significantly better than an early 2nd, which history in the form of drat analytics tells us is incorrect.
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        Quoting: Shibbal18
        Bokk, Denisenko, even Kaut, and less likely if no one takes a shot on Veleno early I’m 100% doing it. I think Veleno will be gone but those other 3 may still be sitting there and I don’t see any of them making it to 32


        Rationale? I'll admit I don't know too much about the late guys in the draft.
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 5:58 p.m.
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        Five stars my friend. very nice job. Very strong RW, LW is MUCH improved over last year when after trading Kane we did not have a single NHL LW, Center IMO is slightly better with Rodrigues, Mittelstadt and Nelson for a full season v O'Reilly ("I lost that loving feeling"), Larsson and who started the season as #3 center, I do not know. Huge upgrade in the defense, Faulk, Hamilton and Dahlin. May be a bit of a reach to get Hamilton away from Calgary, but you can try.
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 6:02 p.m.
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        Isles and Flames are easy no’s.

        Canes prob take that deal tho i think a Faulk/Rask for ROR would make them happier and allow you to keep Risto.
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 6:05 p.m.
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        Quoting: The_Ultimate_Pielord
        Again, WHO ARE THESE PLAYERS? If you can't give me names, then you're trading up because you think a late 1st is significantly better than an early 2nd, which history in the form of drat analytics tells us is incorrect.

        What are the names? What for? It's not my deal, maybe the author like other players, I other, and Botteril all others, we are not here to discuss names, and hypothetical option transaction what it was for.
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        Quoting: The_Ultimate_Pielord
        Rationale? I'll admit I don't know too much about the late guys in the draft.

        Bokk is the sleeper of the 1st, has speed and skill. Didn’t have a great first year in the SHL but was too good to go back to the juniors. every mock draft theirs a comment on how he’s going under the radar, going to make an impact, and how he’s their favorite player in the bottom half of the first. Denisenko is a speedy winger that was left off the U20 team for some reason, which would have elevated him to top 15 or higher. Kaut played with Necas and Zadina at the WJC. Plays in the Czech leagues so a little under rated. One of the older kids in the draft
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        Five stars my friend. very nice job. Very strong RW, LW is MUCH improved over last year when after trading Kane we did not have a single NHL LW, Center IMO is slightly better with Rodrigues, Mittelstadt and Nelson for a full season v O'Reilly ("I lost that loving feeling"), Larsson and who started the season as #3 center, I do not know. Huge upgrade in the defense, Faulk, Hamilton and Dahlin. May be a bit of a reach to get Hamilton away from Calgary, but you can try.


        A few general thoughts:

        1. I am not about this team winning in 18/19..... I will never believe that the Sabres in 18/19 will compete for a playoff spot.... every move I made is with 19/20 and beyond;

        2. I leave Domi on the 3rd line to develop chemistry with Mittelstadt.... his toughness will also protect Casey;

        3. CJ Smith is a warm body a place holder for the time being again see point #1.....

        4. I value Scandella more than 99% of the population so I am not surprised that i was skewered for leaving him in the #1 LHD position.... I still think he is talented and capable of being a #1 LHD based on his game over the last 30 games of the season;

        5. I do think that Calgary will be moving Hamilton..... maybe a change to make is swap ROR for Reinhart in the Calgary deal and then insert Reinhart in the Carolina deal;

        I appreciate your assessment of the team...... hoping for 19/20.
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        Jun. 14, 2018 at 6:16 p.m.
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        Great comments, I love the thought you put into developing this.
        1st, I think you are correct that Calgary will not trade Hamilton, but is the talent exchange OK?
        2nd, you are correct, teams only move up if they think a player they are targeting will not be available. I think moving up in this draft is a good thing to do.
        3rd, I agree CJ may not be ready, but maybe Olofsson, or Nylander, or Asplund or whoever is ready.
        4th I agree, Domi would be a #1 LW
        5th, I liked what I saw in Ullmark. Just remember Matt Murray had less NHL experience before he won his 1st Stanley cup, so let’s hope for the best.
        6th, You are correct Scandella is not a #1 defenseman. I think we start with Scandella and by the end of the season, it will be Dahlin.
        7th of course you are correct



        I agree 100%, thank you for your comment.



        Skinner and Rask > O'Reilly, Faulk < Ristolainen so it balances out. Rask is a #3 center who wins more than 55% of his face offs.


        1. You can't trade talent quantity for talent quality in the NHL under most circumstances. This is because 1) high-end players are harder to acquire, 2) hockey is a strong-link sport, which means having the best player on the ice is more important than not having the worst player on the ice, and 3) each team can only have 23 players on the roster, and 20 dressed, on any given day.
        2. Again, I mistrust the idea that moving up in the draft makes sense unless you have a specific player you're moving up for and a reason why.
        3. Generally speaking, a non-NHL guy signed to an NHL team isn't ready to jump straight into the top-six unless it's a William Nylander situation (really high-end talent put in the AHL specifically to help the team tank. Olofson's probably NHL ready, at nearly a point a game in Sweden, but probably not as a 2LW. Nylander was about 0.5 PPG in Rochester, so he's nowhere near NHL ready, and Asplund was at 0.56 PPG in Sweden, which also probably isn't NHL ready, and certainly not as a 2LW.
        4. Glad you agree!
        5. Ullmark had a .922 Sv% with Rochester. Michael Hutchinson (lost the backup job in WPG to Mason/Hellebuyck), broke .930. It's not experience I'm worried about, it's that Ullmark's numbers just don't suggest that he's ready as an NHL starter,
        6. Here's hoping, but I still say you want to upgrade. Like I said, you could probably get Faulk + Scandella (moved for Cap reasons) for Klefbom, then sign Franson/Pateryn as 2RD. It'd be nice if Dahlin could be 1LD by year's end, but I'm inclined to be careful with him. I'm also iffy on Scandella as 2LD (his GAR suggests he should probably be a 3LD), and Klefbom + Dahlin at LD would be awesome.
        7. Thanks!

        Faulk > Risto. Faulk's a bit better offensively, and MUCH better defensively (Risto's defensive GAR was among the worst in the NHL among dmen). On the other hand, O'Reilly > Skinner, Rask. O'Reilly managed a positive CF% in ultra-defensive usage (42.6% oZs%) on an awful team, while also putting up a 24/37/61 slashline on 10.4% shooting with little help from his coach/linemates. He's a great 1C making about what he's worth, and IMO easily beats out Rask + Skinner, especially given that talent quality is more important than talent quantity.
        Jun. 14, 2018 at 6:17 p.m.
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        A few general thoughts:

        1. I am not about this team winning in 18/19..... I will never believe that the Sabres in 18/19 will compete for a playoff spot.... every move I made is with 19/20 and beyond;

        2. I leave Domi on the 3rd line to develop chemistry with Mittelstadt.... his toughness will also protect Casey;

        3. CJ Smith is a warm body a place holder for the time being again see point #1.....

        4. I value Scandella more than 99% of the population so I am not surprised that i was skewered for leaving him in the #1 LHD position.... I still think he is talented and capable of being a #1 LHD based on his game over the last 30 games of the season;

        5. I do think that Calgary will be moving Hamilton..... maybe a change to make is swap ROR for Reinhart in the Calgary deal and then insert Reinhart in the Carolina deal;

        I appreciate your assessment of the team...... hoping for 19/20.


        Thank you for your comments. I do not think we have any significant differences. Who knows maybe CJ will do really well.
        I need to polish my post a bit before I post it. But I trade everyone including Eichel. With the picks and prospects I pretend to pick up the team will certainly compete in 2019-'20.
         
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