Quoting: The_Ultimate_Pielord
First off, CGY doesn't even listen on that deal. Hamilton's a #1D, their best Dman, on a sub-6 million dollar deal, who's closest comparable in scoring is Brent Burns. You could maybe get Brodie for that return, but no way in hell are you getting Hamilton without a comparable talent going the other way that leaves enough cap space to acquire a 1RD with. IMO, the Sabres simply don't have that.
2nd, once you're outside the top 10, there isn't really a difference between a 1st and a 2nd, especially between a late 1st and a high 2nd. So the Sabres don't really get anything on the MIN trade, unless you have someone specific in mind for that MIN pick.
3rd, CJ Smith was under a point a game with Rochester. Maybe he can make the NHL, but he isn't ready to be a 2LW. You seem to want to be good immediately, why not try to upgrade there?
4th, Domi should probably be 1LW on this roster (this does not remove the hole at 2LW, Bennet's really iffy there as well). He's a solid playmaker with some ability to score (9 goals on 6% shooting will usually turn into about 15 when sh% regresses). Eichel and Skinner IMO want a passing LW, since both of them are goal scorers.
5th, I'm really hesitant to anoint Ullmark starter. That said, if you want to, you probably could get Nelson + a little for Lehner.
6th, you need to upgrade at 1LD. It probably wouldn't be hard to turn Faulk into Klefbom + something (such as dumping Scandella's deal) with EDM. The hole at 2RD can be patched pretty easily by Franson/Pateryn.
7th, Hamilton>Faulk. Better in almost every way.
Overall, this would be a great offseason for the Sabres, but Treliving's not taking that deal and Scandella simply isn't acceptable as 1LD. The wings also haven't really been fixed and there are some huge maybes in the Forward corps.
Great comments, I love the thought you put into developing this.
1st, I think you are correct that Calgary will not trade Hamilton, but is the talent exchange OK?
2nd, you are correct, teams only move up if they think a player they are targeting will not be available. I think moving up in this draft is a good thing to do.
3rd, I agree CJ may not be ready, but maybe Olofsson, or Nylander, or Asplund or whoever is ready.
4th I agree, Domi would be a #1 LW
5th, I liked what I saw in Ullmark. Just remember Matt Murray had less NHL experience before he won his 1st Stanley cup, so let’s hope for the best.
6th, You are correct Scandella is not a #1 defenseman. I think we start with Scandella and by the end of the season, it will be Dahlin.
7th of course you are correct
Quoting: Shifttee
As a canes fan I would do Skinner and Rask for ROR
I would do Hanifin for Risto (assuming I was trading Faulk somewhere else because i would have 4 RD otherwise)
So you could really take out Girgensons and i would still do the deal
on a side note, i'm not opposed to Hanifin for Risto, i just don;t see the point of swapping 2 quality d men that aren't causing a problem on their team, but W/E
I agree 100%, thank you for your comment.
Quoting: LoganOllivier
You're giving too much to get Faulk and Skinner. Both are good hockey players but ROR is better than Skinner and I would say Risto is better than Faulk.
Skinner and Rask > O'Reilly, Faulk < Ristolainen so it balances out. Rask is a #3 center who wins more than 55% of his face offs.